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theSaiGirl Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:53 PM
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Therapy thread - for WTC and Pentagon "plane huggers"
Edited on Fri Apr-07-06 05:54 PM by theSaiGirl
"Plane huggers" are those who compulsively cling to one version or another of the official government-controlled media Big Lie;
that hijacked Boeing commercial jets hit the WTC Towers, and/or the Pentagon, on 9/11.

(I personally feel that this specific neurotic condition should receive a designation in the next edition of the DSM. )

http://www.911closeup.com/nico/FAQ_planehuggers.html
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=11355

9/11: WTC Planehugger Therapy -Top 30 FAQ
(incl. "9/11 NY Aircraft 'Witnesses'" (04/07/06) at
http://911closeup.com/nico/witness_contradictions.html )
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 05:58 PM
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1. More babbling from Nico
AKA Ewing.

BTW, the characterization of those that do not buy into the 9/11 no planes theories as "compulsive" is rich in irony.

Thanks
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 07:19 PM
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2. Neurotic Condition
Disputing the no-crash theory, Jim Hoffman has argued, "This is just the sort of wackiness defenders of the Official Story harp on to show how gullible and incompetent we conspiracy theorists are supposed to be." In other words, Meyssan and other no-plane believers were either wrong, unknowing dupes or spreaders of disinformation.

The D-word is nothing to take lightly in conspiracy circles. For, as Thomas Pynchon notes in his "Proverbs for Paranoids," if they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.

At Veselka, the question was, if Flight 77 did not crash, what happened to the 56 people on the plane? This query did not sit well with Nico Haupt, a thin, black-clad man from Cologne, Germany, compiler of the 9/11 Encyclopedia (911review.org/Wiki/Sept11Topics.shtml).

"Gassed," he hissed. "Have you ever heard of gassing? It is very easy. You open the door of the plane, and it spreads."

"You think they gassed them?" Would even the Illuminati stoop this low?

Haupt cast a withering look. "That, or some other method of murder. Assholes!"

"Nico, calm down," said Tarpley. "This is tactics. There’s no reason to make an enormous moral issue out of everything."

But Haupt was past consoling. "You are motherfuckers. Stupid motherfuckers." Slamming the tabletop, he gathered his things and stormed out.

http://newyorkmetro.com/news/features/16464/index7.html

- Make7
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-07-06 11:21 PM
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3. I think there are some good arguments for "no plane"
and sometimes I find myself thinking along those lines, but the term "Planehuggers" sounds silly and the attempt to form factions that work against one another makes me suspicious. I also had some very minor dealings with some of the no plane people which made me suspicious of their motivation. Even if the no plane theory were true; without extremely convincing evidence, I think it is the WORST approach to take in presenting alternative ideas about 9-11. I was telling someone about 911 the other day and I imagined telling this person, "There weren't any planes, you know, those were faked" and I thought they would probably dismiss what I was saying. Instead I told them about the Norad response, president's behavior, how unlikely it is that only planes made the buildings fall, hijackers still alive, and people are really receptive to that information.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 12:03 AM
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4. Do you realize how many hundreds of thousands of people witnessed
Edited on Sat Apr-08-06 12:03 AM by file83
first hand, with their own eyes, UA 175 hit the South Tower? They didn't witness it on TV, they witnessed it in REAL LIFE. There are dozens and dozens of home videos that caught the approach and impact from every angle around the city and from the New Jersey side.

Arguing "No Plane" is arguing with one of the most widely witnessed events in world history.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-08-06 12:26 AM
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5. Locking
Bellaciao freely reposts material authored from sites and people associated with promotion of bigoted agendas. As such it is not appropriate for use on DU.

Lithos
9/11 Forum Moderator
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