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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 03:24 AM
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What's Missing is Often More Telling Than What is Not...

Has anyone ever satisfactorily explained why the Pentagon videos were immediately confiscated -- never to be to be viewed by the public?


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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 04:01 AM
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1. No
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 04:26 AM
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2. Why would these videos be confiscated in the first place?

...to keep them from the press?

Weren't press videos of attacks in Manhattan essential to building the government's case for new and extraordinary policy?

Wouldn't one think that footage of an attack on the Pentagon would even further galvanize the American people in favor of any government reaction???


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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 04:36 AM
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3. I agree, it's completely counterintuitive
but this is the bush admin we're talking about, everything they say and do is backasswards
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 03:46 AM
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20. Why weren't they part of the historical record in the 9/11 report?
Seems that any actual footage rightfully belongs to our record of what happened. I don't know when the Pearl Harbor footage was released, but I don't think it was a state secret. What could be the reason for not releasing? It only feeds conspiracy theories.

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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 11:08 AM
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4. Has anyone asked for them?
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JackieO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 12:21 PM
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5. yep
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 04:20 PM
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9. Scholars for 9/11 Truth are also asking for the Pentagon videos
as well as other suppressed evidence.

Sign the petition:

http://www.st911.org/
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 12:29 PM
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6. So what happened with the lawsuit
was it Judicial Watch? Also, I thought they were going to show the Pentagon video in the Moussaoui trial.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 01:30 PM
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7. Yeah, they were going to show them to the jury
for their "shock value" to make sure the jury knew that 9/11 was a really bad, bad thing.

Give me a break.
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seatnineb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 01:52 PM
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8. The Moussoui case is being used to withold the pentagon video footage.

Notice how both Mousssoi and the US goverment create conditions within the case that make the trial to run and run.........and in doing so....the Pentagon video evidence remains unseen by the outside world.

That footage maybe the achilles heal of the whole 9/11 official story as we know it.......


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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 12:10 AM
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12. arggh, that "trial" is just making me sick
Edited on Mon Apr-10-06 12:10 AM by mirandapriestly
they have Giuliani , the real criminal, "reliving the tragic events" and show the plane crashing into the building so all the ignorant Americans will say, Look what Moussaoui did, fry em! when he had nothing to do with 911 and the 9-11 Victims families are saying so! Then they had him singing "Burn in the USA" just to rile all the ignoramuses up.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 11:11 AM
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13. Why?
what has this got to do with him?
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toymachines Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-09-06 09:48 PM
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10. You think they even exist anymore?
If they would refute the official story, they are gone. Most secretive admin ever.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 12:06 AM
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11. That's what I think
if those tapes show anything, pfffft, we'll never see them.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 11:12 AM
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14. Doesn't the county in Virginia have?
You would think there would be cameras on the highway - somewhere?
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 11:16 AM
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15. I've wondered about this also
How it is that the FBI was able to so quickly determine the video tapes needed to be rounded-up?

We hear how very difficult it was for this organization (FBI) to identify the terrorists before 9/11, yet in this case, amid the confusion of the attack on the Pentagon, here we have the FBI going around and gathering the visual evidence within minutes of the event. I tell you, those agents that did this must have had a 'premonition' about all this, to be able to respond when they did.

Then again, maybe it wasn't a 'premonition', maybe they knew it was going to happen. Maybe the only people that didn't know what was going to happen on 9/11 were the outsiders to this administration.

Do you suppose Reagans 'spiritual' advisors told the FBI what was going to happen?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 03:50 AM
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21. Were they FBI?
Could have been from Rummy's Pre-Office of Special Plans.
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Klimmer Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 11:20 AM
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16. About the video tapes . . .
We know they confiscated them. We know why they confiscated them. All the tapes show something other than UA flight 77 going into the Pentagon. We also know they don't ever want to show them.

They (the BCF gov) are already screwed and stuck between a rock and a hard place. Why the need to confiscate the video tapes and hide them from public viewing? What's there to hide? Not the truth certainly. The 5 frames or so released, already prove that a 757 did not go into the Pentagon.

If the tapes are never shown and are ultimately destroyed -- we know they confiscated them, we know they have them (they admit it), we know they held them from public viewing as evidence in a trial (so they say), and for them to now destroy them (or have destroyed) would be just another guillotine to chop their heads off with politically speaking.

No matter what happens, it isn't good for them. Isn't that just a cryin shame?
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 11:51 AM
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17. Could be they're suppressing them because they need time
to fake them.

Could be they're suppressing them because they want people to believe they have something
to hide and want to stimulate no-plane theories.

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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 01:55 PM
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18. That would work to kill the 'no-plane' theories
Edited on Mon Apr-10-06 01:57 PM by Jose Diablo
Let the theories get some steam then 'release' fake pictures which kill the messenger, so to speak.

Isn't this what happened to Rather, on the AWOL stuff. They forged copies of the real papers, released those fakes then exposed the copies as fakes with the faked font, yet the AWOL original papers did show Bu$h was AWOL. Thereby, discrediting Rather and the story.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-10-06 08:47 PM
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19. I heard the fired producer of that story interviewed
on Pacifica a few weeks ago and she says that the fonts in the documents were available on typewriters of the era.

She also claims that the documents were authentic and that nobody's proven that they weren't.
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