A Dose of Truth...

[Peter Frank]

http://911busters.com/video/WMV/CC16_Indira_Singh_Q%26A_w_Rupert.wmv

[rman]

1. Kick for the 9-11 Citizens Commission,

for Indira and for McKinney.

[AlienSpaceBat]

2. Indira Singh - what is she saying ?

Maybe its just me ...

I've listened to various interviews etc given by Indira Singh. It seems to me that she throws around lots of names, and makes general allegations of dark dealings. For the most part though there seem to be few specifics given.

When there are more specific things said, for example regarding PTech and the PROMIS software, my BS detectors immediately start to go off. I'm an IT professional, and I find the picture thats painted of PROMIS to be completely OTT. Its sort of an AI program that monitors real time stock trades, its involved in data capture from communications systems, it is a super-hackers back door into all the major banking systems, its involved in FAA systems and flight monitoring, etc etc. This sounds like something from the movies rather than real life.

As for her personal qualifications and experience, she says she is a world expert on finance risk management systems, yet she has been working in the basement of the FAA on software interoperability.

It all doesn't add up to me, and I am extremely suspicious of her.

As I say, maybe its just me. Does anyone maybe have more info on her bona fides ?

[reprehensor]

3. Here's a lengthy interview...

I'm not sure what to make of her myself...

Let me know if this changes your opinion of her.

http://www.gnn.tv/B11292

[Peter Frank]

5. Here's the direct audio link to the interview...

http://www.kpfa.org/cgi-bin/gen-mpegurl.m3u?server=157.22.130.4&port=80&file=dummy.m3u&mount=/data/20050427-Wed1400.mp3

Thanks for the page.

[Peter Frank]

6. I listened to the interview...

...and it's only part 1 of 2. Here's part 2 -- http://www.gunsandbutter.net/archives.php?si=110

[petgoat]

4. I am not aware that she claims to have been involved in the

Ptech/Mitre operation with the FAA.

She was working for a bank, and investigating the possibility of using Ptech software there.
The behavior of Ptech reps was sufficiently disturbing to her that she started investigating
the company. She has few specifics because she is an an amateur detective went around
inteviewing reluctant witnesses and collecting information.

Certainly the possibility that she is a trojan horse should be kept in mind, but I've seen no
speficic information to indicate that she is anything other than what she appears to be:
an intelligent, accomplished, and courageous woman who has almost single-handedly taken on
the intelligence apparatus of the most powerful regime the world has ever seen.

[AlienSpaceBat]

7. It all seems exaggerated to me

I suspect that she has a basis in IT as she says, and that she may have been suspicious of PTech being in bed with spooks.

Its just that everything she has done is always described in one-upmanship, superlative terms.

She was a mountain climber.
- Not any old mountains, remote high (20000ft) peaks in Asia.

She was involved with the WTC on 9/11.
- Should have been in a meeting where she would have died, but missed it by random chance.
- Goes to the impact site instead as a med tech. She is covered by debris from the tower collapse.
- Locates next to WTC7 and is moved on because of the impending WTC7 collapse.
- Sleeps 2 hours while working 72 hours straight through, and doesn't move from the scene for a further 2 or 3 days.
- Personally buys hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of cashmere coats on her credit card from Brooks Brothers to
give to the firefighters the night of 9/11.
- Organizes a benefit for the firefighters, then sets up post trauma stress counselling groups.

Her IT background. She is instrumental in helping to set up TibetNet. This appears to be assistance in providing the exiled Tibetans in India with an email address.
(wordperfect doc - www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/religious_studies/Buddhism/DEFA/Journals/Gassho/gass0102.wp5)

She instead describes it as deriving from DARPA technologies. In the sense that you send email across the internet, and the internet was developed as ARPANET by DARPA's predecessor that's true. Its really got nothing at all to do with DARPA, it just misleads into thinking she has been working with DOD research technologies.

She was working for JP Morgan on Enterprise Architecture. All of a sudden she's in meetings with the CIA technology arm to develop systems with them. She wasn't just an IT systems architect, she was pioneering 'Risk Enterprise Architecture' a field she seems to have invented. Some of what she says here is sort of right - this field involves developing overall plans for connecting together lots of software systems according to a rational model. She then goes on to imply though that this means her job involves monitoring all the data flowing through a business, which is ridiculous.

We then get various unsupported dark hints about PROMIS. Its not just a data mining system, its artificial intelligence and can monitor the entirety of the data in massive banking, security, flight control and other systems in real time. Wait ! not just that, it now provides backdoors onto these systems, and doesn't just monitor, it allows you to insert data into these systems at will. Who knows what NSA / DOD / CIA really have in the way of IT ? I don't think that you could implement such a system over the telecoms company I used to work at, never mind secure military and government systems.

It all sounds like 24 - 'Chloe, hack into the NSA mainframe and get me the top secret wetlist. OK Jack, I'm nearly in, 30 more seconds.' This kind of stuff is impossible in the real world.

Quite possibly a lot of her background is genuine, but exaggerated to make it all sound more 'top-level', more interesting ??

The same goes for the organisations, people and places that get name-dropped. DARPA, MITRE, CIA, BCCI, FAA, MOSSAD, INQTECH, Saudi financing, Drug running, Iran-Contra. It almost looks designed to push the buttons of conspiracy theorising ...

We never get any specifics. She has information that its all the same people involved, and that she has seen evidence and connections. There are never facts given though: FBI agents say to her - you got it exactly right, its all corrupt - but we never actually find out what it is that she got right.

Just my $0.02 ... :shrug:

[mirandapriestly]

8. Oh, and you forgot she's gorgeous to boot!

I kind of know what you mean, I noticed that she was sort of overly "perfect" and I didn't even know about the cashmere coats. I kind of wonder where she gets her money, too. I've tried to give her the benefit of the doubt because of the gag order, thinking that maybe everything will make sense if we could hear everything she had to say.
Why do you think she would want to be pushing the buttons of conspiracy theorists? To put "them" (I guess I'm one) on the wrong track?
I could see that, a person could try to "look into" stuff like PROMIS and Ptech (or whatever it is called now) and never learn anything, the good stuff is not going to be sitting on the internet. Makes me realize how much there is we don't know and how unlikely it is that any information is going to be readily available to us. It isn't. But, I keep looking anyway.

Oh, and the 106th floor of the North tower. That was the "hellhole" where the two calls that were just released were made from. I don't think anyone got out of there, those tapes are extremely disturbing and those are the floors where all the people are hanging out the windows in those pictures. That was where her meeting was supposed to be. Doesn't really fit her personality type to miss a meeting, she slept in, doesn't seem the type.

[mirandapriestly]

14. actually maybe she doesn't have a gag order

I think that is Sibel Edmonds I was thinking of, the FBI translator whistleblower. It was just hard for her to get answers because of all the secrets, the conspiracy of silence if you will. Which is why we don't have the full story. Gosh, I wish we could get a clean administration in there and find all the answers to this stuff.

[AlienSpaceBat]

15. Yes - the complete package !

I also found the story of her randomly oversleeping to be strange. Everywhere else she puts herself forward as a huge overachiever, not the type who misses first thing in the morning meetings.

Regarding the archived DU thread: thats exactly what I'm talking about - all the CT buttons are pushed and alarms go off when you start to read that kind of list of affiliates. Its all too convenient IMHO.

I'm not sure why she would want to do this. Could be she was part of the med team on 9/11, lost her job at JP Morgan and has herself followed the yellow brick road laid out by the likes of PTech and its connections. Could also be thats she's floating this stuff on purpose as a seemingly important research path for activists to go down, and get lost in smoke and mirrors.

Very simply, I would be a lot less suspicious if, after all this time, she had simply given a description of what PROMIS is and what it does. She had this information through a job at a bank, and had sufficient understanding of the system to be planning a major system build with it, so I can't see *any* reason at all why she is still keeping this data to herself, and having everyone else make do with cryptic allusions.

[Peter Frank]

10. Why would she put herself at great such great risk...

...if she's being untruthful? :shrug:

[AlienSpaceBat]

16. The problem is

That as with everything else, there isn't really any evidence that's she's at great risk. She certainly gives that impression, as she gives the impression of lots of other things, but not many solid things that can be checked out, or used in research, or anything really ...

This is why I can't figure her out. She may be genuine, but when you look at what she is saying *none* of it actually goes anywhere. Its all dark mutterings, with sensational revelations 'just around the corner'.

[pauldp]

12. She tipped off Bergantino at the Boston CBS affiliate

He was going to do a major story but it got shutdown by the Whitehouse.
Singh was blackballed after that and couldn't get any work. All the Yassin Al Qaeda/P-Tech connections she talks about seem real and very suspicious. She seems like the real deal to me. Bergantino confirmed the connections P-Tech had to terrorist financiers and US institutions.
http://cbs4boston.com/iteam/local_story_343145212.html

[mirandapriestly]

9. Good interview. So the fire dept told her 7 was "coming down" at noon.

She says they used the term coming down and she believes they did take it down, not that it fell alone. But we know that. 11 anthrax warnings in lower Manhattan after 90-11, that went unreported, (just to make sure people kept thinking it was terrorists, I suppose.) A test for cholera , what was that all about?
She felt that the symptoms people were having were consistent with radiation, hmmm. So, she is MIHOP, I don't think I have ever heard her actually say that.
She asks, "whose paying them to say that?" about the hologram planes, heh heh...

Something that bugs me, she was going to be at that "risk management" meeting which was on the 106th floor where all those people died and where the recently released calls were made from. Two WTC upper floor insurance companies have been involved with large anti trust and fraud lawsuits since 9-11, maybe before, too. They are Aon and Marsh. Just seems weird that she was supposed to be there. Lots of corporate crimes comes up in relation to the wtc companies , it seems...

[mirandapriestly]

11. Old DU link , look who Ptech did business with

It looks like a 911 checklist, let's see; a software company alleged to be owned by an alleged terrorist who did business with the FAA, the FBI, the US AirForce, NATO (Naval Air Systems Command), the IRS, & more...Can you say, "hmmmm"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=printer_format&om=21289&forum=DCForumID60

[Peter Frank]

13. I Am Floored!...

Great digging Miranda!!

The thread you reference is a study in itself -- http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=printer_format&om=21289&forum=DCForumID60 (dated Dec-06-02 at 11:46 AM)

Thank you for your awareness.