Another debate thread...

[ludwigb]

As it starts up again. Just before the commerical break, Dick Gephardt was damn inspiring.

[Red_Storm]

1. Are we going to hear from DK in the rest of the debate?

[hellhathnofury]

2. Here's two

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=101770

and one

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=101490

[ludwigb]

4. The other one is too large

It takes too long for most people to load and see all the replies quickly enough.

[hellhathnofury]

7. ya just linking the old threads for people just tuning in.

[Terwilliger]

3. Dean: we've lost our moral compass b/c business practices

in this country

[hellhathnofury]

5. up yee go!

[goodhue]

6. Dean attacking Harvey Pitt as immoral

[leyton]

8. Now see...

Edwards's question here was an example of how one can be friendly to the front-runner. This is how candidates should treat one another, because with questions like this, neither Dean nor Edwards gets hurt.

Dang, I didn't see the previous Iowa debates. Is this what people were talking about with Edwards and Dean being cordial?

[w13rd0]

14. yes...

...this is an example of that. Edwards has said that his candidacy is about him, not about Dean, and I like that. He's not my "second", but I do like Edwards. WHOA! Edwards says Bush doesn't believe in democracy, doesn't believe in the judicial system.

GO EDWARDS!

[SayitAintSo]

15. I think they are dating ....

sweet on each other .... could be future in this union .... what do you think ?

Edwards is on his game ... He just keeps getting better and better.

[tedoll78]

16. My opinion of Edwards has really improved recently.

I didn't like it when he used that "we don't need people like you lecturing us.." on Dean last year, but he's been more and more positive and substantial than most of the other candidates. The man seems to have a good heart.

[Clark4Prez]

9. Dean- We've lost our moral compass.

Major point for Dean!

[w13rd0]

10. Edwards now asking a question of Dean...

...concerning "Payday lenders". Asking for agreement, other ideas. Dean says that it was an excellent proposal, not a lot he can do to improve on it. Blind eye to morality, especially in corporate America. Sends a signal that regulations don't matter. Banks own subsidiaries that prey upon minority communities. Edwards lobs a softball to Dean, and Dean praises Edwards and expounds on it. Says that his (Edwards) approach is exactly the right approach.

[PDittie]

18. Dean and Edwards are making those googly eyes at each other again

just like in the last debate.

I think we have a match...

[Terwilliger]

11. Q for Edwards: Bush admin wants cap on damages for personal injury...

for poor...what would he do on that issue?

Edwards: talks about trials...I dunno

[nomaco-10]

12. Dean has won so far hands down along with....

Carol Mosely Braun and Dennis Kucinich. Everytime Sharpton opens his mouth, I just want to yell TAWANNA BRAWLEY.

[BeyondGeography]

28. Few will share your opinion

I think Howard's been damaged. Based on what we've learned tonight, George W. Bush can claim he had a better minority hiring record as Governor than Howard Dean.

[nomaco-10]

Gee, how is your reply a surprise....

since you are obviously watching the debate with a closed mind and firmly behind your candidate that didn't even bother to show up. SIGH.

[BeyondGeography]

61. I'm not alone, Dean's getting hammered here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=102228

[chimpymustgo]

47. Oh NO. John Edwards had OWNED this debate.

Take a deep breath, check out his website, REALIZE what who know about his performance is ALL these debates.

This man makes me care, and makes me smile.

www.johnedwards2004.com

[nomaco-10]

56. Maybe in your world, but those of us still in touch....

with reality just watched Dean not only win the debate but the Iowa caucus as well. SIGH......

[hellhathnofury]

13. Edwards is winning this one. He's compassionate reality-based.

[Kathleen04]

20. Yep.

Edwards is shining tonight. :)

[hellhathnofury]

25. He's now solidified as my #2. I want him to be Veep no matter the candidat

[Padraig18]

29. he's #3, and closing in on #2, for me.

i'm a little pissed that Clark decided not to participate in Ia...

[hellhathnofury]

It's going to hurt in the general.

[funky_bug]

54. Again?

Hasn't hurt him yet. We'll wait and see, and I'll eat my words if I'm wrong.

[Kathleen04]

30. Me too. n/t

[Blitz]

45. How's he going to be his own veep?

n/t

[hellhathnofury]

53. Good point. Cloning.

[leyton]

34. Let's hope

this combined with an endorsement will propel him to a sure third place spot in Iowa.

[leyton]

17. Yesss!!!

Edwards just explained the virtue of the current civil law system.

Go JRE! Or JKE. Or whatever it is.

[Terwilliger]

19. Lieberman gets question about reparations!

[Terwilliger]

21. answer: we ought to talk about whhat we can do...its a future idea

[hellhathnofury]

22. Too much Joe in this debate.

[Renew Deal]

23. Lieberman didn't answer the reperations question.

And I don't blame him.

[Padraig18]

24. DK being ignored again...

[Paulie]

27. Typical

But you noticed the crowd's reaction to his points on the ISSUES. People will remember that.

[goodhue]

26. closing after break

DK has not spoken since early in immigrants rights segment.

[hellhathnofury]

31. ewww Tweety post-debate. I want CSPAN.

[Padraig18]

32. Tweety:

:puke:

[Padraig18]

36. GOOD closing statement, Howard!

Short, sweet and to the point. :)

[goodhue]

33. 45 seconds to close

[hellhathnofury]

35. Dean just won the debate. :)

[leyton]

39. That was

a good closing statement, Dean's.

I'm sorry, I just can't see myself getting excited about Lieberman or Gephardt.

[TheDonkey]

48. i like how he kept it short

[TheDonkey]

49. i like how he kept the closing remarks short

[nomaco-10]

58. Once again he's proved why he is the front runner....

He was succint and on point. Dean as usual does not disapoint.

[slinkerwink]

63. I'd have to say that dean survived but he hit the ball outta park

with his closing statements and post-debate wrapup.

[Terwilliger]

37. Lieberman won't answer reparations question yet invokes King

thanks, Joe

[tedoll78]

40. Gep and Lieb won't shut up!

Good gawd!

[Terwilliger]

44. Dennis gets big applause!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[nomaco-10]

59. Dennis deserves all the applause he gets.....

Dennis Kucinich is a stand up candidate that will tell it like it is. Go Dennis.
It's just a shame that Sharpton had to cheapen the debate with his media whoring rhetoric.
Can we all say together... TAWANA BRAWLEY
Give it up Al and throw your votes to a class act like Carol Mosely Braun. ENOUGH ALREADY!!!

[hellhathnofury]

38. I think theyre trained to keep talking until the end of the 45+10 interrup

[the populist]

41. Closing remarks!!!

This, if I am correct, is the first time he is mentioning trade in the closing remarks at a debate. I'm glad that he's finally putting this issue on the table and establishing himself as THE fair-trade candidate.

On the other hand, Dean is pandering with his cliched Martin Luther King quoting. *yawn*

Lieberman mentions MLK.

As does Sharpton.

Gephardt has proven he has real class and is a sincere person without talking down to the audience with recycled lines about MLK.

[Name removed]

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[goodhue]

43. DJK just won the debate. :-)

[goodhue]

46. Edwards too. :-)

[leyton]

52. Well

I'm not a Kucinich fan, but his closing statement reminded me why his supporters are so fond of him. I really gotta respect his passion, it seems genuine.

[hellhathnofury]

50. Yes John! Let him frame the debate.

[Terwilliger]

51. Kerry sounds presidential...why ---URK, nevermind

Kerry trying a feeble "Bring it on!" :eyes:

[funky_bug]

55. UGH

This "bring it on" thing is over-used. Slimy and weak.

Edwards brought it on. Hands down, my #2 guy.

[leyton]

57. Bring it on

is almost as bad as 'shock and awe.'

Although at least this one reminds everyone of what an idiot our Prez can be, where as 'shock and awe' just reminds everyone that the Pentagon has some neat fireworks.

[LWolf]

60. It seems clear to me.

Kucinich & Edwards. I have them even. They both shone tonight. I think Edwards got more talk time; maybe the questions from the "specialists?" Or just me wanting to hear more from Dennis.

Other notes:

I heard bits and pieces of Dennis Kucinich's campaign/platform all over the stage tonight. I'm a little conflicted about that. One the one hand, I want his positions to become a standard for everyone. On the other hand, I want him getting the credit. Even Lieberman latched on to preschool through college education and tried, in a fumbling sort of way, to use "The End of Fear, Beginning of Hope..." a Kucinich campaign slogan. Earlier in the evening, he told us we ought to be afraid, but that he could make us feel more secure. My summary, not a direct quote.

[texas is the reason]

62. dean fan here, gotta say edwards kicked ass tonight...

i don't feel that dean did poorly, but i wish he could come across a little more "charming" like edwards does. i gotta say, edwards has a charisma right up there with clinton and kennedy, and i am quite confident he could woo the general electorate if he should win. i still like dean a little more, but i wish he could come across half as polished as edwards. i am sure he was a great trial lawyer, and with a little more experience, i am sure he would be a great (or at least a very persuasive) president..