OMG Kerry on MSNBC hardball.... blows off Oneal's claims to attack Dean

[TLM]

Mathews says that Oneal has said things that pull the pillars out from under the support for the war and is trying to give Kerry a chance to say that, given the new info he is now opposed the Iraq war... and Kerry won't say it.

Instead he just wants to attack Dean.

This is why his campaign is crashing.

[slinkerwink]

1. how pathetic!

[wtmusic]

Yeah that kind of stood out

'let me ignore your question to pursue my agenda'

:eyes:

[Voltaire99]

2. For Kerry, in defeat, it's all about Kerry

Time to put the sour grapes behind him and get to work helping the nominee defeat Bush.

[shance]

3. Whew....what is his deal? Cant see the forest for the trees........

So does that tell us something? He opts for fueling a vendetta over a present and real situation?

This is NOT the way to win hearts and minds, or at this pivotal point, win elections.

What is up with him?

He needs better advisors around him. That or he needs to take a time out.

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[windansea]

5. welcome to DU

nice first post!!

[Brian_Expat]

7. "Get people off the stage"?

Last time I checked, America was a place where everyone had a chance to speak on the stage and sit at the table. I am sorry other candidates' supporters disagree with that idea.

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[wtmusic]

20. Gep had his chance in '88

and got nowhere near the excitement Dean is generating.

[Brian_Expat]

38. You're welcome to try. . .

. . . but Harkin all but ensured it's your guy who is going down. :)

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[bearfartinthewoods]

46. karma

ya get what ya give. dean made his name by stomping on the good names of lifelong liberals. did you expect us/them to just suck up his lies?

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[TeacherCreature]

52. Based on what?

What exactly are you posting about here. Help me out I am trying to find your point.

[wtmusic]

12. Gep just keeps getting blander and blander

Though I like his issues I think he would be an awful leader, and CMB was right on when she said Gep hasn't done a proactive thing in the House to advance minorities.

Gep voted for the war. Nothing can change that. He's the one who failed his country and deserves to be taken off the stage.

[oasis]

14. Correction: Kerry is trying to save the country. Dean's priority is to

"save" the democratic Party.

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[wtmusic]

36. LOL

and it takes a clever leeeeeeftist to notice that one! :D

[not systems]

17. "The guy is a rumor monger and two faced hypocrite"

Give me a break.

You shrill shriek.

The first order off business is standing up to Bush and
his criminal war mongering.

I will be pleased to see the "rose garden" crew slink
back to Washington after Dean nails their pelts to the
wall.

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[not systems]

30. Is that you Al From? n/t

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[TeacherCreature]

51. What exactly is crazy about Dean?

What has he said that is crazy?

[Fleshdancer]

6. stupid stupid stupid stupid

ALL candidates should be talking about O'Neill. Everyday. They should also be trying their hardest to get copies of the documents and they should all take a couple of hours off on Tuesday morning to purchase and read the book.

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[Printer70]

15. No, O'Neill is suddenly intelligent and trustworthy

...didn't you get the memo?

:eyes:

[wtmusic]

18. A positive agenda? Such as how to fix Gep's war vote?

Or his PATRIOT act support? :eyes:

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[not systems]

28. Whatever...

rose garden Democrat.

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[not systems]

34. Face it...

even if Gephardt wins Iowa he has no play nationally.

Not that I think you are really a Gephardt supporter
but if you are you should go for Kerry who at least has
some cash and a name outside of Iowa.

[Fleshdancer]

19. Nobody gives a shit about O'Neill????

My brother was sent to a war based on a lie. I GIVE A SHIT.

[wtmusic]

21. thank you...reality check

O'Neill was in Bush's cabinet, and no one has questioned the veracity of the reports.

A lot of people give a shit about O'Neill, and right now most of them are Republican.

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[wtmusic]

35. Under Reagan we didn't have Americans dying overseas

because of a presidential lie (which, incidentally, Gep supported)...


Hmmmmm?

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[TeacherCreature]

58. My brother was sent last spring

He is home safe and sound, thank God. However my friend's son just went and he will be gone for 18 months. Now he's cannon fodder for oil. I also "give a shit".

[not systems]

22. "Move on"

Like endorsing the Bush crews lying and war profiteering.

The point is people should care about O'Neill and will
if the candidates use their media time to raise the issue
and work toward knocking the supports out from the Bush
regime.

[TeacherCreature]

54. Oh jeez, I have been talking to a tombstone

what is funnier, the ABD crowd have all chimed in to agree with him.

[edzontar]

59. Interesting observation.

Not surprizing either, given the culprits.

[mouse7]

9. Kerry attacked Clark and Edwards this weekend too

The Clark attack had legit points was was worded really viciously, the Edwards attack looks like it was a complete smear.

I don't know what Kerry thinks he's doing.

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[sandnsea]

10. He responded and will continue to

I don't know what he said, I don't remember seeing anything in the Hardball interview that could be construed as going after Dean. Maybe I missed it. All I remember is Chris asking if Kerry was against the war like Howard or something and Kerry stating the facts about Bush's abuse of power in going to war again. But he's already responded and I'm sure he will continue to. You better hope he does because nobody is going to listen to Howard. Wes Clark absolutely, but not Howard. He's already proven himself to be a goofball on foreign affairs and security. Here's Kerry's response, much tougher than Howard's.

Des Moines, Iowa -- “These are very serious charges by a former high ranking Administration official. We already knew the Administration failed to focus on the threat from Osama Bin Laden and Al Queda. We already knew the Administration broke every promise they made to work through the U.N., use the resolution to enforce inspections, build a coalition, and plan for peace. But Secretary O’Neill’s revelations would mean the Administration never intended to even try to keep those promises. It would mean they were dead-set on going to war alone since almost the day they took office and deliberately lied to the American people, Congress, and the world. It would mean that for purely ideological reasons they planned on putting American troops in a shooting gallery occupying an Arab country almost alone. The White House needs to answer these charges truthfully because they threaten to shatter their already damaged credibility as never before.”

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[w13rd0]

13. I'd suggest that yall take a lesson from the blogs...

...don't take the bait of trolls.

[TacticalPeek]

24. Amen.

:)

[doubles]

25. %#*^ Kerry, I've had it with that Bush loving Dean bashing Wash insider nt

[thebigthink]

37. Yeah!

How dare Kerry respond to Dean's distortions of his record on Iraq and telling a few little white ones about his own. And shame on him for spending 19 years in the senate, amassing one of the most progressive voting records in Congress and knuckling under to Republicans by exposing Iran/Contra, stopping oil drilling in the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge, and a host of other offenses. I am absolutely incensed that a Washington insider like Kerry has never accepted a buffalo nickel in PAC contributions. Doesn't he know he's supposed to be "bought and paid for?"

The nerve of the guy!

[sandnsea]

39. Bush, 60% approval??

Dean is really knocking Bush right out of the park, isn't he?

First Dean, then Bush. Sorry, that's the way it has to go.

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[tabasco]

49. I have a feeling you would take Bush over the lot of them.

One of the more insidious disruptors. Nice try!

[JNelson6563]

45. what an idiot

So obsessed with Dean he forgets Bush is the enemy and won't accept this fabulous gift O'Neil has given us.

Oy!

Julie

[zulchzulu]

48. Transcript?

I don't believe you.

[maddezmom]

55. don't think it's been posted on MSNBC yet

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3719710/

maybe later this am. I didn't see the debates or the followup so I'm interested myself.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

56. Don't. They're spinning mightily

Kerry didn't take back his official statement on O'Neil, where he said Bush basically lied.

[TeacherCreature]

50. Kerry

I have truly come to dispise him. He would rather another 4 years of Bush than to confront the man.

[TheDonkey]

57. I saw that, it was shameful...

Kerry was once my #1 but he has continued to crash land with his witch hunt on Dean. I don't mind criticism of the canidates but if you're given a golden oppurtunity to BASH Bush like no other and ignore it to bash a democrat it's shameful.