Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Sophistry

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:35 AM
Original message
Sophistry
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 09:37 AM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
n. pl. soph·is·tries
Plausible but fallacious argumentation.

A plausible but misleading or fallacious argument.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=ICL40NDAXJOUICRBAELCFFA?type=politicsNews&storyID=4107420

Now, before you use this story to get into a monkey pile again, I want you all to remember something:

Something like this happened with Reagan, and all and sundry cooed and gurgled happily at the size of the cojones on the man. However, it is clear to see that the repukes have decided to attempt to neuter our campaigns with the constant drumbeat of "incivility". That, my friends, is Bovine-Generated Organic Effluent. The speaking the truth is never incivil, except, perhaps, to the person whose truth is being spoken about. The only caveat is that in speaking what you feel is the truth, one must endeavour to be sure that it is, objectively and to the best of your ability, truth.

This gentleperson who stood up in this meeting was no concerned citizen seeking a universal tone of civility, I feel certain. A search of his past will, undoubtedly, turn up a long history of repuke activism. No, this was a ringer, one in the woodpile. His was the first sophistry, as defined above.

The second sophistry was in the writing of the article. Dean's speeches and town meetings are not where repukes get a national forum, nor are they where they can go to craft the tone and tenor of Democratic Challenger Campaigns. The media, in reporting it in the way that they did, seem to think that the meetings are just that.

Overall, I think we can see where things are going, and what any successful Democratic Party presidential candidate will have to do, before they get the media to do an honest telling of his or her tale of the campaign:

Get Ed Gillespie's procreative unit out of the media's mouth.

IMHO: Howard Dean was confronted with a well-coached heckler, and responded appropriately.

Please note: I am not a supporter of any Democratic Presidential candidate at this time


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:39 AM
Response to Original message
1. Could you fix the link TS?
Not seen you around these parts for a while, mate. Welcome back.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. It's the damn semi-colon in the link.
The story is on the front page>politics of http://www.reuters.com.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 09:41 AM
Response to Original message
2. The link doesn't work for me,
but apparently you are referring to the heckler in yesterday's debate.

What makes Dean so remarkable is that he doesn't crumple under all these senseless attacks. The corporate media is clearly out to get him, and I hope it doesn't work. Or that they'd go after Bush as strongly.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan 05th 2025, 12:36 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC