Could this be the reason people dont want to vote for DK?

[corporatewhore]

I was tableing for kucinich and one lady came up to m and she though DK was a great man but everybody including her self was affaid of Kucinich we talke for a while and she said that it was because people are affraid because he speaks the truth and would rather keep their heads in the sand.just on note she is a dean person.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

1. I don't know about average voters, but

I'm pretty sure that's why the corporate media don't like him.

[plurality]

2. when you've been told lies your entire life, the truth can be a scary...

...thing.

It doesn't surprise me in the least. It takes a certain breed of person to swim against the current.

I remember the allegory of the cave, and how it said that there would be many people, that would try and return to the darkness after being exposed to the light of truth, because it was too frightening to see that everything has been a lie.

[quaker bill]

3. Perhaps for some

But for me, I just don't think some of his ideas could be implemented. Many of them do sound great though.

[corporatewhore]

4. kick for DK

[SeveneightyWhoa]

5. Its because he's too far left, too idealistic, and not fit for the #1 job.

The man didn't do all that well as a mayor. How will he lead the most powerful nation in the world? Most Americans would see him as too far left, and even if he was elected, he wouldn't be accepted. Look at what happened to Clinton, and he was a centrist--imagine how Kucinich would be treated. He wouldn't make it past a year.

Not to mention, his appearance and overall aura (his campaign manager is a transformational kinesiologist for heaven's sake!) make him unelectable. The fact that most DU'ers think he's too far left and unelectable, make you wonder what the rest of offline America think of him.

[ThirdWheelLegend]

15. You lost me in your first misrepresentation

"The man didn't do all that well as a mayor" Did you want to actually state why this happened? That he saved the public utility and that led to saving Cleveland residents over 200 million dollars and that the city of Cleveland, in 1998, awarded him for his actions?

That he fights against the corporate power that controls most of the other Dems. That his policies benefit the common people of the country and the world.

Thanks for trying/

TWL

[dpbrown]

6. People are acting out of the fear the BFEE has instilled in them

They're willing to tell themselves they'll sacrifice anything to get rid of Bush.

Therefore, they're more susceptible to the flim-flam they're being fed about "electability."

They want a magic bullet, so if someone tells them "the man with the most money" is the magic bullet, they bite, even though Dean has only raised about one quarter the money Bush has raised.

And because "money" has become the magic bullet (even though if it's about money alone the Democrats have already lost because Bush will always have more), they dismiss a person with more substantial and traditionally Democratic ideals as unrealistic, since they're convinced THEY CAN'T HAVE WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST because only by sacrificing themselves and their moral compass can they beat Bush.

Hogwash.

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota

[jsw_81]

7. Kucinich is simply unelectable

It's going to be hard enough for a centrist like Dean or Gephardt to get elected; can you imagine the mountain Kucinich would have to climb? He'd probably lose all fifty states.

[dpbrown]

8. The numbers don't support your contention

I've done two analyses that show that the power is on the progressive side, and not on the "centrist" side.

Please show something backing up your assertion.

If you have nothing other than your opinion, well, then, you're entitled to it, but you're wrong.

That's not just my opinion. I've put forward detailed analyses of the VNS exit polling data and the 40/40/20 rule to illustrate the progressive power that makes Kucinich the best candidate to beat Bush.

You can read my analysis here, with links to other articles I've written on the topic:
http://www.imwithdennis.com/article312.html

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota

[corporatewhore]

10. good article

[hellhathnofury]

12. Dennis would probably lose 50. At most he could pull off DC.

[Padraig18]

18. Numbers backing up his contention:

His consistently low polling numbers in EACH AND EVERY scientific poll conducted.

[Caution]

9. People dont want to vote for DK

because they don't know who he is. He doesn't have enough money to get his message out and there arent a lot of people who bother with the debates anymore so Kucinich is basically shunted to the side. I love his politics but let's face facts. Barring a miracle in the next 3-4 weeks Kucinich's campaign is toast. He young enough though that maybe this run will give him some steam for the next time around (hopefully in 8 years rather than 4!)

[LWolf]

11. This is partly true.

Except the toast part. He's here for all 50 states, and a good showing early can direct more attention to him. You bring up a point that has been nagging me. "Hopefully in 8 years rather than 4."

If we don't elect him now, it will be 8 years before we have another chance. Either we'll have a one term president and be stuck with a repub for the last 4, or we'll have the democratic president for all 8. We have to work for that president's re-election at the end of his first term, whether we like him or not. Whether or not his administration has done anything for the country, or not. So it's really vital to get someone you can live with for 8 years.

That really narrows the field for me. There are other candidates that I like, and could support as president, but there are some I don't want to have to face every day for 8 years. I really don't want to have to wait for 8 years for another glimmer of hope.

The bottom line:

Choose the best and brightest now. You won't have another opportunity to do so for 8 long years.

[Zomby Woof]

14. what I find amusing

Is how there is a small handful of people on DU who expend an awful lot of energy screaming about DK's "unelectability". Hey, if I thought a candidate didn't have a chance, I wouldn't bother getting all huffy and puffy about it. Which is why I never post anything about Lieberman. :7

[ThirdWheelLegend]

16. lol!

KICK

TWL

[LWolf]

17. <snort>

Great point. If it's not a threat, it's not a target.

As far as the primary goes, 8 of the 9 will prove to be "unelectable." Because they won't be elected. And when it comes to the general election...

George W. Bush has given us plenty to work with. In a nation of reason, he could be defeated by any reasonable person. In the age of stepford America, we'll have to work. We'll have to work hard no matter who the nominee is. If we do our job, if we bring the ugly underbelly of the Bush administration to light, we can beat him with many of the current crop of choices. Why not choose the best?

[corporatewhore]

13. kick for the eyes that see through the lies

[Hep]

19. Even a Dean fan can get it wrong from time to time

No one is afraid that he speaks the truth. Everyone is afraid that a president Kucinich would be a walking mandate, able to get NOTHING done in his term.

[REP]

20. I Don't Trust Him

And I certainly don't think he's a 'threat' nor do I think he's a great man. I'm not alone, and I like to remind people that he is far from being seen universally as a 'truth teller,' or that people like me are voting for someone else because we don't 'know' the real Kucinich. That's just insulting, and it's not an effective argument.