Who's going to end up more liberal?

[Tweed]

Dean or Clark? Now before I get BLOWN away by the Dean people, please hear me out. Let's say Howard Dean wins the GE. He has made very damning comments about Republicans. While I support his comments myself, as presidential candidate, highly partisan statements do not make any friends. It will be VERY difficult for Dean to work with Republicans in congress. As leader of the party, Dean is going to have to make a great deal of compromises because Republicans will not want to work with him as much. This will be especially true with Dean being the head of the ticket in the south and 5 Democratic senators up for re-election. I don't care how much you like Howard Dean, you have to admit he doesn't have much appeal in the south. It will be even harder for him to pass bills and laws he wants with a Republican held house. When running against Bush, Dean will have no ground to move more liberal on his policies because he is already seen by most people as 'too liberal'.

Wesley Clark on the other hand will have an easier time working with congress. First, Clark has more appeal to people in the south and his name will help the Democratic senators to be re-elected more so then having Howard Dean's name up there. Granted, Wesley Clark could be forced to work with a Republican house and senate as well, he will have more Democratic votes to work with. The fact that Clark voted Republican sometimes in the past will make the congress Republicans more willing to bargain with him. In the end, not only will Clark be able to pass his legislation more often, it won't have as many compromises as Dean's. Not to mention the fact that in the GE, Clark will have more room to move liberal because of how the public sees him. in conclusion, while some people might think that Dean is more liberal to the Democratic ideas, Clark will be more likely to get legislation passed first and without compromises second.

[Jack_Dawson]

1. Clark's platform is more liberal than Dean's

AND he doesn't have a rating from the NRA.

[Tweed]

3. True

But I figured that some people haven't even looked at Clark's campaign because they call him a Republican. If anyone cared to look at Clark's ideas for three seconds, they would see that he is an old-time Democrat. I wrote the message for people that think that Clark is too conservative. If they think that, they haven't looked into his policies.

[Jack_Dawson]

6. True Dat

:toast:

[mikewriter]

9. Good point

I think Clark will have an easier time in Washington. Heck, he's as close to a republican as a DEM can get. Dean will have to compromise as would any of the candidates even DK when they get to the White House.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

11. Wrong Dean is as close to a Republican as a person can get...

n/t

[Tweed]

13. Dean is as close to a Republican as a person can get?!?!

The Dean supporters should hear this! They don't like Clark because he used to be a Republican for the most part!!

[KissMyAsscroft]

2. Thats a good point....

But I'm not sure how easily DeLay and his ilk will work with any Democrat. But I'm sure they will work more closely with Clark.

To tell you the truth, I'm not sure that is a good thing.

[adadem]

4. That would be

Kerry.

[isbister]

5. I don't think Clark will be able to overcome...

his past republican love-fest in a general election. bush's 200 million will have Clark's glowing words running on tv 24 hours a day.

Who will end up more liberal? Do you mean, in the end in actual reality or do you mean who will make the more liberal campaign promises?

[Jack_Dawson]

7. Former republicans will appeal to republican voters

Who are sick of Bush's act. Nobody is going to win the GE w/o winning the middle. Clark can. Dean can't.

[mmonk]

14. Maybe someone

who supports someone who voted for the IWR need not discuss it.

[sandnsea]

8. What does Clark THINK?

I'm not going away on this. We deserve to know what exactly Clark thinks about Reaganomics, Reagan busting the unions, massive military deficits in the 80's, Reagan's proxy wars, how he thinks Reagan ended the Cold War, what was going on in Central America. Wasn't Clark IN Central America when all that Iran/Contra stuff was going on? I want to know. Democrats have a right to know before we seriously consider anything he has to say today.

[isbister]

12. I'd like to know too

Are the answers on his web site. I'd be happy to go look but don't want to waste my time if the answers aren't there...

What's the web address for Clark?

[mmonk]

10. Clark

the word liberal doesn't bother him.