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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:35 AM
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Haha - Check out partisan breakdown of latest Newsweek poll
354 Republicans (plus or minus 6)
317 Democrats (plus or minus 6)
284 Independents (plus or minus 6)

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041016/nysa012_1.html

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Tells me that Kerry probably has a lead.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:36 AM
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1. 0 First time voters
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:37 AM
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2. why do they always oversample repugs???
Edited on Sat Oct-16-04 11:37 AM by Doosh
I mean, isn't the current electorate like 36% Dem, 32% repug 32% indy/other?
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:38 AM
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5. Why do you assume the electorate is 36% dem?
Perhaps it was in 2000. But how can you assume that there has been NO CHANGE in the partisan balance during the past four years?
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:41 AM
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7. Deja Vue
That's the same argument the pollsters used for Bush's lead in the 2000 polls. It's still bullshit.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:45 AM
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11. I Don't Have A Link But Pew Said Party ID Is Where It Was In 2000
They said there was a spike in Republican ID after 9-11 but it's abated....
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:45 PM
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21. Why do you assume that the % OF Pugs has increased.
Maybe it's now 28% Pugs, 40% Dems.

Anyway, I think the oversampling of Pugs is due to the assumption that they're more likely to vote. Given the anger and animation among Dems this year, I believe that this is, to put it mildly, not a safe assumption.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:42 AM
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8. Maybe that's who responds.
They may do a certain number of calls, and that's the measure of the responses they get. They're under time pressure, after all, to get these things done and tabulated -- maybe more people who identify as Republicans are willing to respond to the phone polling.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:46 AM
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12. That could be, but then they should plaster the results of the poll
with that information instead of including it in fine print somewhere.

The media want this race to appear close so that people will keep watching their commercials, I'm convinced.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:55 AM
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17. I agree they should be more up-front about it.
I think the whole 'caller ID/cell phone' argument begs the question if any phone poll can really be considered accurate anymore, and some of the pollsters will admit this when pressed on the question, but they never remind people about that on the polls themselves, either. Polls are useful as tracking instruments, but there's been an enormous demographic shift in the past few years because of technological changes that they can't account for. I also think you're right that it's a revenue issue -- I doubt media pollsters will ever show a dramatic lead in a presidential election again because if people think it's all over too soon, they'll stop paying attention to the media.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:46 AM
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13. You Nailed It....
The first 1,000 people who meet their criterion of registered voters are included...


They weight for race, gender, region, et cetera but not party...
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:56 AM
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18. And as I said above,
it doesn't account for the demographic shifts caused by new technologies like cell phones and caller I.D. They do the best they can to get the most random sample possible, but lots of people don't answer their phones if the Caller ID says 'out of area' or doesn't identify the caller (we're two of them), and nobody has a comprehensive list of cell phone numbers to use.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:47 AM
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15. Actually 39-35-26
Dems are still the majority party in this country, a fact many seem to have forgotten. GOP has NEVER exceeded 35% of the proportional vote.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:38 AM
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3. I wipe my ass with newsweek.
It's not even good for that.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:44 AM
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10. LOL n/t
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:00 PM
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19. maybe good for a campfire still
as long as you don't pay for it. :)
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:38 AM
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4. Doesn't make much sense, huh?
Not representative of the US public.

37% R
33% Dem
30% Indie

Not from everything I read.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:53 AM
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16. Check this out
Kerry leads Bush by 11 among independents in this poll.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 12:21 PM
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20. There's the RUB! With that advantage, no way Kerry will lose the REAL
poll on Nov. 2!

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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:40 AM
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6. Kerry. In. A. Landslide.
If they say we're tied, it can ONLY mean Kerry in a LANDSLIDE!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:43 AM
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9. That Poll Reveals Them As Rank Fucking Idiots....
I'll bet my home and car if Kerry is "really" winning men by three or four percent on election day and winning indys 51-40 percent there's no way he's going to lose...

Why do pollsters do this shit...


Garbage in ...Garbage out....
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-04 11:47 AM
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14. Bah, ignore all polls they are a waste of time. (nt)
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