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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:55 AM
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Gallup Poll, Bush 50% Gore 42%, October 9, 2000
with Nader at 4%

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/09/tracking.poll/

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republican presidential hopeful George W. Bush maintains his 8 point lead over his Democratic rival, Vice President Al Gore, in Monday's CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll.
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By Oct 20th, Bush led by 10pts:

Tracking poll: Bush may be expanding lead over Gore
By CNN Polling Director Keating Holland

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Texas Gov. George W. Bush may be expanding his narrow lead over Vice President Al Gore in the hard-fought presidential race, according to Friday's CNN/USA Today/Gallup tracking poll. Friday's results indicate Bush garnering 50 percent and Gore drawing 40 percent of likely voters' support.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/10/20/tracking.poll/
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endnote Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 11:56 AM
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1. Interesting:they are following a script.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:24 PM
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9. Yep. They are totally predictable. They try to manipulate..
the expectations of a win for * so that undecideds will vote for *.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:01 PM
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2. following orders well...
from their beloved corporate gods...who we all know are not patriots or even nationalists...but globalist, who care nothing for this country's well being...only insofar as their profits...if they can make them someplace else...then good bye USA.

they've done this over and over and over again...nothing that they do can make the opposite case.
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delhurgo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:03 PM
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3. I don't know that that really explains anything.
That was almost a month before the election, and didn't show the impact of the Bush DUI story that broke just over a week before the 2000 election.

We'll have to wait to see the internals of the Gallup poll before we can make any sense of it. I sure hope republicans were oversampled or it's very bad news.

What could have caused the movement, if it's a good sample. My guess would be Mary Cheney, tagging Kerry with the liberal label, and possibly Bush coming off more likable in the last debate.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:11 PM
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6. October 20th was nearly a month before the election? When did...
...change calendars to a 2-week month?

And please stop...the Chimpy DUI story had no effect on the 2000 election.

Don't you get it yet? Gallup and other polls are running fraudulent polling numbers based on an over-sampling of Republicans and other methods designed to make Chimpy look like the leader going into Election Day. Their mission is quite simply to discourage Kerry backers from going to the polls on Election Day.

And if you need to know why these polling groups are conducting business the way that they are, think about who owns them and who THEY support for president.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:27 PM
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11. It's not just to discourage Kerry backers...
it's to make a Bush* win more plausible as they try to fix the vote. The more of a margin they can pretend that * has going into Nov.2, the less obvious the cheating will be.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:32 PM
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15. Good point.
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delhurgo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:39 PM
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17. Yes, I see now that there's second date - Oct 20.
I agree that would be alot of movement for two weeks. But poll experts have explained this as due to the DUI story. I don't know if thats true or not, but its something many of them seem to agree on.

I did say that we'll have to wait to see the internals of the poll, that they may have oversampled republicans - that would look bad for Gallup if its true. They've already been criticized for their methods; they'll have alot of explaining to do if they've oversampled this late in the race.

I don't think my last paragraph is BS. If there is movement, which is hard to say at this point (I've seen other polls suggest otherwise), then I'm just trying to guess as to what would have caused it. If the Gallup poll is slanted, then those things I mentioned didn't have much impact. I do think Bush came off as more likable though.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:12 PM
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7. And your last paragraph is complete bull.
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shawmut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:12 PM
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8. They had Bush up 7 points on the 29th of October
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:26 PM
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10. Your Analysis Would Make Sense If The RCP Spread Was 8 And Not 3
www.realclearpolitics.com
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:29 PM
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13. More likable than Kerry...
or more likable than * was before? I found * to be twitchy and weird and Kerry to be mature and sensible.
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delhurgo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:40 PM
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18. No, just more likable than he was in the other debates.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:05 PM
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4. And Gore actually won the popular vote by about a point....
...which indicates that Gallup was off by 11 points in late October 2000. If we follow that line of reasoning to the latest Gallup poll showing Chimpy ahead by 8 points, Kerry should win by 3 points.

Gore also won the electoral vote, but that was overturned when the NeoCon co-conspirators voted 5-4 to install Chimpy in the White House.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:08 PM
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5. EXACTLY!!!
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951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:27 PM
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12. Remember Bush lost the people's vote by 500,000
Florida was never an issue he still lost
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:32 PM
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14. thanks for the reminder.
:thumbsup:
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-04 12:35 PM
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16. Don't forget that undecideds also go for the challenger...
I'm not taking my eye off the ball but I'm confident in our chances.
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