Team Dean NASCAR Racing!

[dajabr]

The primary goal of Team Dean Racing is twofold. This organization would like to both educate the fans on the views and positions of Howard Dean and would also like to encourage those race fans who do not normally vote, into voting for the first time in 2004.

All Howard Dean supporters are encouraged to volunteer to help at upcoming events in conjunction with NASCAR events throughout the country.

The Team Dean Racing No. 84 Chevrolet will be driven by Busch Series veteran and Long Island, New York native Brian Weber.

For more information, send an email to [e-mail]

http://www.teamdeanracing.com/

[patricia92243]

1. Need to be sure if the car doesn't come in first place that it doesn't

hurt the campaign.

[mouse7]

2. Rolling end-over-end flaming down backstretch would be worse.

Dean definitely has an interest in ensuring the Dean car doesn't crash-and-burn.

[yorgatron]

3. crashing is OK in nascsar

you get more screen time,that's what counts.they have people who watch the races to determine how much time (in seconds) the sponsor's,or candidate's in this case,name is visible.that's how they decide how much to charge for different segments (hood,quarter panel,roof etc.) coming in LAST is what you don't want to do.

[maddezmom]

4. Great way to get Dean's name out

if finance laws allow it. :)

[KaraokeKarlton]

5. Oh yeah!

Damn Howard Dean is resourceful and creative about going after votes! Now THIS is the language those "Nascar Dads" will understand and love. This is brilliant!

[HFishbine]

6. Excellent

I'm quite certain I wasn't the only one to encourage the Dean campaign to do this, but it's great that they are!

[Hep]

7. This isn't new! Edwards was all about the New Democrats Car.

NASCAR is out of season right now. Let's talk about this after the primary.

[KaraokeKarlton]

10. First race is February 14th

n/t

[Hep]

8. Shouldn't be 84. It should be 68.

n/t

[HFishbine]

17. 84? 84!!! 84!!! 84!!! Friggin' BRILLIANT!

a = 1
b = 2
c = 3

[Hep]

18. I got that but 84 also means MONDALE. 68 = Bobby Kennedy.

n/t

[Skinner]

9. Holy cow! Is this for real?

That's pretty ballsy, IMO. :thumbsup:

Did the Dean campaign do this, or was this something that supporters did?

[KaraokeKarlton]

11. Yes, it's for real

and Dean is definitely ballsy. I'm sure some supporters advised Dean to do this, and since he listens to what his supporters say, he clearly took their advice and is supporting it. I'm not sure if the campaign itself is paying for it or if supporters are. But THIS is the way to get that NASCAR vote. It's not just idle talk, it's actually going to bring MORE NASCAR fans to races just to see that car and cheer for it. It's brilliant, IMO.

[Hep]

13. Incredibly expensive.

Therein lies the risk. Going after yellow and red lights. We'll see how it works, since it didn't work for the New Democrats.

[maddezmom]

12. think they need to get the finance thing cleared up first

but it a great way to get his name out there. :)


<<Brian Weber has been a part time competitor in the NASCAR Busch Series for the last several years with positive results, and is preparing to run a full schedule in 2004 if finances allow. Promoting Dean and working with Dean volunteers in NASCAR venue cities around the country will be an integral part of the Team Dean Racing program this season. Said Weber of his faith in Dean, "I am a hard working guy who has really had to work for everything I have ever had and I believe Howard Dean has some great ideas to help hard working Americans like myself and to help people and humanity in general." >>

http://www.teamdeanracing.com/pressrelease.htm

[dajabr]

14. The driver is a Dean supporter...

They need help and volunteers too.

Brian Weber has been a part time competitor in the NASCAR Busch Series for the last several years with positive results, and is preparing to run a full schedule in 2004 if finances allow. Promoting Dean and working with Dean volunteers in NASCAR venue cities around the country will be an integral part of the Team Dean Racing program this season. Said Weber of his faith in Dean, "I am a hard working guy who has really had to work for everything I have ever had and I believe Howard Dean has some great ideas to help hard working Americans like myself and to help people and humanity in general."

http://www.teamdeanracing.com/pressrelease.htm

[KaraokeKarlton]

15. The website has a gas tank to fill Dean supporters!

They're raising money to pay for the 2004 race season! Instead of a bat, they have a gas tank to fill...go help Dean reach those NASCAR Dads! Woo Hoo!

http://www.teamdeanracing.com/

[LTR]

16. I like this

I'm not a Dean supporter, but it is a stroke of genius.

Would be interesting to see how this plays with the stock car crowd.

[KittyWampus]

19. We Can Fight In Iraq For Oil To Run Dean's Car

Brilliant Marketing.

[KaraokeKarlton]

20. Sounds like

you're just mad that your candidate didn't think of it himself and can't afford to do it.

Gotta love that green eyed monster. :eyes:

[KittyWampus]

22. Hardly. And I Knew That Would Be Asserted. Not That I Care

The Truth is Nascar racing is a waste of petroleum.

And I did say "Brilliant Marketing" did I not?

[dajabr]

21. The car runs on grapes...

Sour ones in fact. Care to part with some of yours?

[KittyWampus]

23. Racecars DO Use Less Gas Than F16's

[KittyWampus]

24. Pandering To Both Nascar Fans AND Iowans Dean's Car

will run on ETHANOL!!!

[maddezmom]

26. where'd ya see that? n/t

[Hep]

27. That's not legal.

n/t

[democratreformed]

25. A Chevrolet??

Just an old thing between my family's NASCAR fans (including myself).

[KittyWampus]

28. Wouldn't Yacht Racing Be More Suitable to Dean's Corporate Friendly Record

as Governor of Vermont?

[Hep]

29. Hyuck!

Were you under the impression that it's about his socioeconomic background rather than his trying to reach out to voters? That's silly at best. AT BEST.

[TLM]

36. Whine and sour grapes....

the daily Dean opponent diet.

[mopinko]

30. wow, howrd dean brings unity to my family

my hubby and son are nascar nuts. i think it is an insane waste of petroleum and money. every time they go to the races, i say "how many poor farmers could feed their families with all that horsepower?" but howard has brought us together. i'll check out the schedule, to see if they are in the chicago area. it is a brilliant political move.

[KittyWampus]

31. Dean's New Slogan YOU HAVE THE HORSEPOWER!

:D

[windansea]

34. LOL n/t

[Tim_in_HK]

32. I think this is a good idea . . .

And no sour grapes, here.

But I think that Bob Graham had a NASCAR car when he was in the campaign?

Clever then, clever now.

[ShaneGR]

33. This may shock you, but that's about a 5 million investment

The upkeep and movement of a large nascar team costs about that much for half a season, with no victories or top 10 finishes.

[TLM]

37. Does DeanforAmerica own the car....

or are they just the primary sponsor?

Looks like the car has more small sponsor decals... so DFA isn;t the only sponsor for the car.

[cindyw]

35. Hornaday is gonna kick TeamDean's ass.

That said, good luck. I'd love to see a Team Kerry and a Team Clark, Team Edwards and then that will be interesting.

[TLM]

38. The bottom of the site says....

"Paid for by Dean supporters and not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee."

[cindyw]

39. Oh well, goodluck then. Doesn't this violate campaign finance laws then.

Isn't there some rule that an expense that promotes a candidate is assumed to be a donation to the candidate. Given the very high cost of racing, I wonder if enough supporters will be able to give what they have left in the 2000 limit to afford this expense without violating the soft money rules.

[KittyWampus]

40. Team Dean Keeps Going Around In Circles!