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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:57 PM
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So what's Kerry's October surprise ... coming tomorrow?
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 09:58 PM by mzmolly
Bransonfu - posted a thread about a Kerry surprise coming tomorrow, ... I want a clue damnit! :P
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:58 PM
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1. heh, was going to post something similar
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:59 PM
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2. nah nah nah nah nah.
;)

I am wondering if Kerry's speech has something to do with it?
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:00 PM
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3. Kerry better have evidence!
the press will spin like nuts to soften the blow to Bush.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:00 PM
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4. He's Giving a Major Policy Speech
I suspect he'll level some charges at the admin about suppressing the new CIA 9/11 report as was reported in the LA Times today...
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:08 PM
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10. He will demand release of the CIA 9/11 report covered up since June
Bush & Co have cynically tried to stonewall, stall and cover up this damaging report until after the election since it blows away the phony Bush/Cheney claims of how much better than can protect us. I hope this disgraceful coverup will be front and center in the news for the next 2 weeks.

Give 'em hell Kerry!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:02 PM
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5. I hear
he's gonna announce Mary Cheney is a lesbian :)
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:04 PM
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7. Thanks for the laugh
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:18 PM
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16. What? She is?!
ROFL! ;)
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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:03 PM
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6. Two words:
Plame.

Indictments.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:06 PM
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8. Sorry
but the Kerry campaign has no control over such a thing.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:07 PM
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9. maybe that's the surprise
:P
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naufragus Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:12 PM
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12. oh really
politics is a wonderful thing.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:15 PM
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15. If the prosecutor in the case
is colluding with the Kerry campaign, it would endanger any possible indictments.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:25 AM
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34. Sorry, Fitzgerald's A Repugnican
In '98, they withheld revelations of investigations into George Ryan's office until AFTER the election...the information was kept out of the public by Fitzgerald and other Repugnican prosecutors at the time...that could have altered that election.

In hindsight, I'm glad things worked out the way they did. Ryan put a halt to the death penalty, tightened gun laws, went to Cuba and caved on O'Hare expansion. I called him the best Democratic governor in my lifetime.

They dragged Rove in to testify a week ago...didn't seem to get a peep on the news shows.

Sadly, the Plame matter is too complex to have any real affect on this election. However, if this regime somehow steals another 4 years, then this could be the start of another Watergate/Iran-Contra.
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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:13 PM
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13. Who said Kerry was actually in CONTROL
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 10:14 PM by Paul_H
of the October Surprise???

Seriously: There is a big difference between controlling it and merely having knowledge of it.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:14 PM
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14. well I don't know
how a campaign can possibly rely on external events totally beyond their control for an "october surprise"
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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:02 PM
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20. Look at it this way:
Let's say someone in the CIA has told Kerry what's going on and when it will be announced. Why should he talk about it? Why should he even acknowledge it? Yet, nevertheless, he will know with certainty it's coming so he knows he doesn't have to get too ugly with Bush. He knows someone else will take care of that for him.

Kerry doesn't live in a vaccuum; he probably has some insight into what's going down.

That doesn't mean he controls it, but he would be stupid not to use it to his advantage.

Just watch and learn.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:05 PM
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22. Exactly. Kerry should profess shock. disgust, and outrage if this is it.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:14 PM
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23. The CIA probably
doesn't have any clue, either. This is in the hands of a Grand Jury. There's simply no way to "schedule" something like this.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:58 AM
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37. 2 words: Rand Beers
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RobertDevereaux Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:09 PM
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11. That would be telling!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:27 PM
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17. I'd like to see the CIA report released, myself.
I'm sure it will exonerate Junior and Co. completely. :eyes: I even managed to type that with a straight face. I'm so proud! ;)
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:40 PM
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18. I'm proud of you too.
I know there's this Bushies vs CIA feud going on. I'm a little surprised at how the Bushies seem to have been winning most of the squabbles with the spooks, however. I guess bureaucrats are better at the waiting game.
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Lilli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:44 PM
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19. Timing is everything n/t
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exliontamer Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:04 PM
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21. Two Words
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bush equals idiot Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:28 PM
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27. I heard the JJ camp was sitting on something big
but I didn't hear any specific date.

As for Clinton, I KNEW it would happen!!



Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:22 PM
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24. BILL CLINTON is the October surprise! n/t
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:23 PM
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25. Two Words
Red Sox
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:24 PM
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26. Iran just came out swinging for Junior
I'll bet that's one endorsement Chimp doesn't want. Terrorist for Bush. Heh Heh

Hard to know how Kerry will top that.:party:
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:35 PM
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28. CIA 9/11 Report Exposes Bush Admin - Link
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102004V.shtml

The 9/11 Secret in the CIA's Back Pocket
By Robert Scheer
The Los Angeles Times

Tuesday 19 October 2004

The agency is withholding a damning report that points at senior officials.

It is shocking: The Bush administration is suppressing a CIA report on 9/11 until after the election, and this one names names. Although the report by the inspector general's office of the CIA was completed in June, it has not been made available to the congressional intelligence committees that mandated the study almost two years ago.

...full story at above link....
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:38 PM
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29. Online Petition to the Media to Expose Cover-up, Demand Release
http://www.petitiononline.com/Tru911ci/

To: CNN, MSNBC,FOX NEWS,ETC...
We the American people,demand the CIA reports about 911 be released before the election.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned

follow the link above and sign the petition. It had less than 20 signatures earlier tonight...now it has 275.

Petition to Release the CIA Report BEFORE the Election
http://www.petitiononline.com/Tru911ci/
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:48 PM
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31. 295 NOW!
eom
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naufragus Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:53 PM
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32. Can i make a suggestion....
no one gives a rat's ass about those online petitions.

it would be better to flood congress with faxes and calls.

many are also in their home states. some even out campaigning and can be put onthe spot publically.

lol -- do you really think those petitions are for real.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:18 AM
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33. Online Petitions, Online Polls - Very Low Time Cost - Can't Lose
Online petitions and online polls have an EXTREMELY LOW TIME COST. This one takes about 15 seconds.

Provided the sponsor turns it in, it serves to show the networks that there is real interest in this story. The more signatories there are, the more effective it is.

It WOULD be better to flood congress with faxes and calls...but that would take significantly more time and effort. If you are up for it, go for it. But anyone can take 15 seconds and sign this thing. It might help, and it is very easy to do.
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kimchi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:07 AM
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36. 361 now. n/t
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:43 PM
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30. Do you have a link to Bransonfu's thread by chance?
I can't seem to find it and I don't have the search function.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:54 AM
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44. No, I tried to locate it and couldnt. I recall the name Chalabi?
And, I think there was reference to 911 ?

Perhaps it is the CIA report, but unless America knows the content, it doesn't matter.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:27 AM
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35. What time is the speech tomorrow? n/t
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 02:12 AM
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38. Here's the link
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1040095

I'm pretty sure, given what we've seen today, that it's the CIA report.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:11 AM
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39. Ahhh.
Thanks.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:14 AM
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40. please let it be that....
If the CIA report comes out before the election, Bush is even bigger toast than he already is!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:38 AM
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42. What's in this report?
:shrug:
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:18 AM
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41. What is it now?
Was it discussed yet?
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:39 AM
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43. So - what was it?
He delivered a major speech in Iowa this morning - did he drop any bombs? Or is he saving them for his speeches in Ohio and/or Pennsylvania?
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