Dean said: "Only one candidate stood up against the war when it mattered"

[Renew Deal]

He just said this at the CMB event. He is technically right. It's Kucinich. He voted against it. Why does Dean continue to mislead people?

[JohnKleeb]

1. sigh again eh

It was Kucinich and Pelosi in the house who led the fight against IWR. Sharpton fought against the war too, and I saw it with my own two eyes last October. It is misleading, and it increases the chances of me being wary to support him, listen if hes the nom I will support him no question, but stuff like this makes me uncomfortable, I'll say it though, if Kucinich were to withdraw today, the candiate I support wouldnt be Dean.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

i dont know how you saw Dean say anything

CNN cut in right when he started talking, and began commentary.

[Renew Deal]

3. Someone posted a link here.

I watched it on the web.

[Hep]

5. Webcast

I'll verify that Dean said it. I just don't think it's a big deal.

[maddezmom]

6. the link was here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=116510

[sandnsea]

2. It's all he's got

And the media refuses to report the truth.

I can't believe Harkin stood up their crowing about Vermont's child health care program when Iowa's Hawk-I program comes from the same SCHIP federal program and Iowa covers 94% of kids while Vermont covers 96%. I don't know what the hell is going on. Maybe these people just have dollar bills in their eyes and really think that's all it takes to win.

[stickdog]

10. Or maybe Harkin believes what he says.

There always is that remote possibility.

[sandnsea]

16. Didn't say he didn't

But I'd think he'd be able to find something truly unique about Howard's record to praise him on instead of the made up issue of the children's health coverage plan that his own state has too. When you have to stand up there and give somebody else credit for something you know you passed yourself, something is seriously wrong.

[Hep]

4. I noticed that too.

It still bothers me.

I guess his definition of candidate is different from yours and mine. But you're wrong. Lyndon LaRouche also opposed the war from the start. I don't hear anyone getting miffed about his being left out.

[JohnKleeb]

8. heh true on LaRouche

but Dean is very aware that he was far from the only one opposed to the war from the start, Kucinich was in congress with Nancy Pelosi fighting against it, I am not asking him to acknowledge DK but if he thinks he was all alone from the start, then he is mistaken.

[Hep]

11. 23 Senators voted against IWR

but none of those brave american heroes (I'm serious about calling them that) are running for President.

[JohnKleeb]

13. what about the representives

True no senators who voted NO to IWR are running for president but there was once one and that was Graham. Now there only remains one person who voted NO to IWR.

[stickdog]

7. Can you tell us anything else he said? (nt)

[Hep]

12. LOL

n/t

[corporatewhore]

9. When kucinich stood up it mattered big time befor

howard Dean ever begin to pretend to be part of the democratic wing of the democratic party. i wonder how dean would have bvoted if he had been in congress

[stickdog]

14. Dean was speaking against the war as Saddam's statue was coming

down.

I'm sure DK was as well, but CNN wasn't interviewing him in a transparent attempt to destroy his candidacy.

[JohnKleeb]

15. Why wasnt CNN interviewing him, he was a candiate at the time

Kucinich first spoke against the idea of war in Iraq about a couple of years ago in the prayer for America speech. Why didnt the media interview him? I havent a clue. He first became a candiate last February, Kucinich that is.

[sandnsea]

18. That was a little late, wasn' t it?

That is what you call against the war from the start, seriously???

[Padraig18]

17. I suspect against the IWR w/o the Biden-Lugar amendment.

Based on all of his statements. 23 Democratic senators did.

[mandyky]

19. He means top tier candidates obviously

Do you all really think Gephardt or Kerry would have dared to criticize shrub unless they saw Dean doing it and getting people behind him? (On the war)

Last February, we DUers were livid with the pink tutu crowd. If I recall correctly Kerry, Gepahardt, and Daschle were 3 of the pictures. I think there were 4 or 5, but forget who they were. Dean was the only one talking out, other than Kucinich, CMB, and Sharpton, but noone was taking those 3 seriously. It was not until the dean steamroller gathered steam did the shrub collaborators decided they dared criticize shrub.

[plurality]

20. yeah, but at that time Dean wasn't a major candidate either

so your argument holds no water. in the lead-up to war dean was just as unknown as all the others.

the only reason dean has become a 'major' candidate is because the media knew we would accept them paying attention to only pro-war candidates and dean was the least offensive to their interests of all the anti-war people.

[BigMcLargehuge]

21. locked

do not use inflamatory rhetoric.