Kerry "Zen Master" Keeps Going. Calling Dean, Clark DUers: Salute Him!

[Raya]

Rolling Stone’s Will Dana (12/2/2003) nailed Kerry’s strength and weakness: “John Kerry projects an aura of friendly confidence that suggests he is either out of touch with reality or has the serenity of a Zen master.”



Is Kerry a Zen master, or what!

The Big-Unions go for Gephart and Dean – Kerry is serene.

Dean rounds up all the Big-Name endorsements – Kerry is serene.

Campaign runs low on money, Kerry puts up his house – Kerry is serene.

Big Media ignores Kerry and focus on endless Dean and Clark stories – Kerry is serene.


No wonder all the real inside politicos are a little distant from John Kerry – he is just too freaky cool!

I call on all my fellow DU’ers to give a cheer for our quiet warrior. Yeah!

[Bread and Circus]

1. I am happy for Kerry but I still want Clark to win.

Clark/Kerry or Kerry/Clark is what I would like to see.

Experience, sacrifice, and honor.

[curse10]

2. That would be a stellar ticket

and one very likely to smash the Bush junta in November.

[mikehiggins]

3. Huzzah! Huzzah!

For he's a jolly good fellow!
For he's a jolly good fellow!
For he's a jolly good fellow!
That nobody can deny!

Never surrender.

[fjc]

4. I guess when you've faced bullets coming at your face..

everything else shrinks to insignifance by comparison. It wouldn't break my heart if Kerry took the nomination. I've been supporting Dean and Clark, but I've always liked Kerry.

[JI7]

5. hey raya

can you post that thing on teresa heinz kerry that you gave posted before a few times. i would like to read it, and she will also be shown on cspan today. i will post it later unless someone else does before me.

[dave29]

6. Kerry Serene?

Remember Dean, Dean, Dean, Dean?

;)

[foo_bar]

10. it's a mantra

[blm]

24. Kerry was criticizing the press' questions to him that were all about Dean

at the time. If you read the whole story it was quite obvious he was indicting the press for THEIR Deancentric behavior.

[lurk_no_more]

38. Who???

And then there were none!
” JAFO”

[DoveTurnedHawk]

7. Holy Shit! You're Not Kidding!

It's like John Kerry is pulling the Jedi Mind Trick on millions of Iowans or something!

"These candidates are not the ones you are looking for."

"These candidates are not the ones I am looking for."

DTH

[BJ]

8. Kerry is the DLC's boy.

With Christy Vilsack's, wife of Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack, endorsement of Kerry the other day, it's clear that Kerry is the Democratic Leadership Council's nominee. All the state Democrats in the dais with Christy Vilsack that day, at least the ones I recognized, are DLCers.

If Kerry is the party's presidential nominee, I guarantee four more years of Bush.

I suggest you read Paul Krugman's editorial before getting too excited about the junior senator from Massachusets.

[sandnsea]

21. The rank and file voted for Dean

That's what was said when the South Carolina DLC was polled and went for Dean. It's the Washington DLC that's the problem, not the rank and file. This is just ridiculous. Dean is gathering up the endorsements from name Democrats. The Clintons are behind Clark. Kerry is out there, on his own, winning over voters one by one. It's what he does. If he were the nominee, he'd kick the shit out of Bush and if he were the President you'd see more progress in shorter time than any time since the 60's.

[BJ]

27. Kerry on his own? Where do you come up with that notion?

Here's a link to the DLC's Directory.

John Kerry's name is on it, as is Zell Miller's, Joe Lieberman and Dick Gephardt. I find the name of the Governor of Iowa Tom Vilsack, Lt. Governor Sally Pederson, the Iowa Attorney General Tom Miller (he's just below Zell) and Iowa Secretary of Agriculture Patty Judge. They were all on the dais when Christy Vilsack publicly endorsed Kerry.

So I wouldn't say that Kerry's out here in the cornfields of Iowa all on his own.

[sandnsea]

33. Edwards, Gephardt, Lieberman are DLC

The DLC are the Clintons, right? That would make Clark the one with the DLC support, wouldn't it?

And how do you factor in Gephardt and the rest? They're DLC, why wouldn't they get the support if there's such a conspiracy. Seems to me it makes more sense to pump up Gephardt in Iowa for Clark's benefit than Kerry.

This is just stupid. Each candidate is running their own campaign and getting their own support. I didn't say Kerry was out in the cornfields all on his own, but he sure doesn't have any massive Washington backing either. It's quite obvious.

[WiseMen]

35. Please do a little reading about Kerry's history in the Senate -- he has

notoriously indifferent to typical Washington influences.

What you are spreading in sad slime on the image of one of the
rare men of honor in our Senate.

[IowaBiker]

28. I disagree on your take on Kerry & Dean

I hear Dean speak and Mr. Peabody's wayback machine takes me back to 1968 and the campaign of Eugene McCarthy.

I think the Dean folks are wonderful people. I think all the candidates are dedicated, wonderful folks.

But.

The number one issue -- and the one Bush is scoring high on -- is national security.

It's going to take a candidate with more combat medals on his chest than GeeDubya has socks stuffed into his flight suit codpiece to get supporters away from him.

I think the party needs somebody to call out this Little Lord Fauntleroy Bush who talks big, but doesn't show up when the lead starts flying.

Kerry and Clark have been there, done that.

We're in a war right now, not just against the middle east and terrorism, but for our own freedoms at home. And on the domestic front Bush is the enemy.

So right now, I'm looking for a candidate who has already put his life on line for his country.

--Brian

[blm]

36. Great post.

I hear ya. There's WAY too much at stake.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

39. Hilarious too

I hurt myself laughing. DTH's on the Obi Wan Kenobi number also cracked me up.

Kerry is certainly mighty calm in the face of battle. If he emerges from this he will be unstoppable. Unstoppable I say!

[returnable]

9. Cheers...

...to Kerry and his supporters for their hard work :toast:

[robbedvoter]

11. Cheers!

But I don't trust Zogby any more than I trust Bushco.

[Byronic]

12. At the JK/Ted Kennedy event

in Dubuque, he was called John 'Seabiscuit' Kerry, but I definitely prefer the 'Zen Master'. :toast:

By the way, Iowans, if you don't get out there and caucus for John Kerry on Monday 'Ol Ted will never forgive ya!

" You can have 3 out of 4. You sent your delegates for President Kennedy in 1960; for Bob in 1968; you gave a pass on me in 1980, now you've got to come through for John!"

Senator Edward Kennedy, Dubuque, Iowa, January 10



:bounce: Go for it John!

[BJ]

14. Zogby's poll means nothing!

Who wins in the Iowa Caucus is decided by who gets the most supporters to the caucus site on caucus night, this coming Monday.

It's not an election! The only "electing" that goes on is the entire caucus voting on the "permanent" precinct chair; and each viable candidate group then votes on who goes to the county convention from their group.

[Byronic]

15. Oh, I know that

In fact, I am fairly sure that Dean will win Iowa. I don't think that Kerry's organization can compete with Gephardts and Deans on Monday. I'm just enjoying the ride!

Although one name does make me wonder about the current Kerry surge: Michael Whouley. If Kerry somehow pulls off a shock victory in Iowa a large part of it will be down to this publicity-shy man.

He came through for Gore in Iowa and New Hampshire when things looked rocky in 2000.

Definitely a guy you want beside you in the trenches.

[David Dunham]

17. The Pro-Kerry Trend In Zogby's Poll Matters

Trends do matter in primary polling. For example, undecided voters tend to be influenced by them and to go the way the trend is going.

[BJ]

26. The "undecideds" usually don't show on Caucus night.

And those that do are "politiced" one-on-one by those committed to a candidate. This is very up-close and personal politics. It's neighbors talking to neighbors. There are no secret ballots.

[blm]

48. undecideds are more like the general public.

Since undecideds are breaking more to Kerry and Edwards and away from Dean, that should tell you something about the general election.

Dean doesn't wear well over time.

[indigo32]

22. I'm still firmly Dean

but I will happily support Kerry if he pulls it out and...
I'm jealous Teddy is on his side :)

[bigwillq]

13. I like Kerry and I'm glad he's making it a close race in Iowa..

but I'm still going with Dean.

[Raya]

50. Welcome aboard.

[Gringo]

16. Kerry would've been my first choice if...

...he had shown the same courage he showed during Vietnam by opposing this war before it started. I have always been a great admirer of John Kerry, but this particular war was a bit of a litmus test for me. Seeing Clark gushing nightly on CNN about our military prowess made me sick. I kept hoping that he might say SOMETHING about the war's unjustness and stupidity, but all he could do was swoon over our soldiers and our weaponry.

It's a shame that this war, and the disgusting media that promoted it so much have driven me from candidates that I would otherwise love.

But back to the original point: Yes, Kerry deserves some kudos for his quiet endurance. If he gets the nom, I'll be 100% behind him. It looks less and less like that will be the case.

[The Magistrate]

18. Senator Kerry Is An Excellent Fellow

He has done great things in the past, and has proved himself a redoubtable campaigner, most noteably in his last Senate race.

[GRClarkesq]

19. When was Kerry serene?

When Dean leaped ahead he went nuts trying to get some traction. Between him and Clark they have managed to hammer Dean back down.

So much for skipping the primaries and just nominating Dean. Going to be a real fight now.

[Raya]

31. Where were you for the last years. Dean Attacks vicious from January 2003

But, of course, Dean supporters don't call them attacks -- Just straight talk about corrupt insiders, cockroaches and so on ...

[oasis]

20. When Iowans did their homework, Kerry began to rise in the polls.

[IowaBiker]

30. No, oasis, I don't think so.

I think it has a lot to do with Kerry getting rid of the arrogant people who were running his campaign.

Those folks were doing a lousy job of getting people organized and fired up about the campaign. I know I signed up to volunteer as soon as the campaign opened an office here in Des Moines, and never heard from them, except when I showed up again looking for stuff to do, and was turned away again --that's pathetic. I'm sure it was that kind of stuff that got his staff fired.

The Gephart people confirmed there were a lot of others who had been treated by the Kerry campaign in a similar manner, and were using it as a recruiting tool.

I think now the Kerry folks are doing a much better job. And it seems like Mr. Kerry is getting to know how to deal with Iowans a bit better, too.

BTW, I Just talked with the county clerk's office. There is a wait to talk with anybody there right now. They say they've never had the call volume like this before, and are expecting huge crowds.

That's good. I don't think the press yet understands the quiet anger a lot of people have burning inside them over what happened in 2000.

--Brian

[KittyWampus]

23. Salute Kerry? Only If I Get A Lollipop!

:)

[TexasSissy]

25. Whoa! Hold on there, li'l fella! Don't alienate Clark supporters.

As a Clark supporter, I hope Clark wins the nomination. But I would be delighted to vote for Kerry. So let's not antagonize the others' supporters, since one group will no doubt flock to the others', if necessary.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

29. I'd rather wave him a not so fond farewell.

After his vote for the IWR, he won't get my vote if he should be nominated.

[nightperson]

41. Well, I'll still continue to work for you,

even though I keep hearing the old Jello Biafra line "You'll be the first to go/unless you think!".

[Sensitivity]

43. Kerry opposed the war. Before vote during vote after vote

[Cheswick2.0]

32. his campaign is calling people and telling them Dean is a liar

If that's zen I am glad to be a presbyterian.

[Name removed]

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[JNelson6563]

37. In spite of a lot of some behavior

from various Kerry supporters he is still my #2. It is his very respectable, long record that puts him there in my list. It is also his lack of leadership during this horrid rise of fascism that puts him at #2 instead of #1 in the primaries for me.

Julie

[lurk_no_more]

40. Clark/Kerry

Who could ask for anything more? Kerry/Clark? either way I'm a winner.

Kerry or Clark: bush loses.


And then there were none!
” JAFO”

[Raya]

42. Just saw what happened today at Rally: The Force is with Kerry!

After 35 years a Republican former special forces guy call to come and campaign for the man who risked his life to same another.

[molly]

44. Kerry will attrack many undecided voters

and voters sick of this administration - in all party affiliations!

GO KERRY!

[Raya]

45. I can't believe it! Kerry does keep going. I thought I was being cute!

[cally]

46. I'm impressed with Kerry's campaign

his supporters and his stamina. He is doing great right now and I thought he didn't have a chance. He is my second choice.

Unfortunately, I think many voters are deciding between Kerry and Clark in NH. They seem to appeal to similar voters.

[drfemoe]

47. n/t

oops . eom

[Raya]

49. Well, what do you know?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

51. Congrats to Kerry and Edwards.

That was an old-fashioned ass-kicking!


:kick: