Clark's Reading Room

[in_cog_ni_to]

Wesley Clark has a "Reading Room" where he has ALL of his records OPEN to the PUBLIC! There you go Dean supporters! Have a read!

Blitzer just announced this...maybe Clark will be on? :shrug:

[MoonRiver]

1. Clark just keep looking better and better.

That's a great picture of Wes and Gert! Our next First Couple!

:loveya:

[laruemtt]

3. wow - really puts

dean and bush on notice! man, he's smart. and so handsome...sigh...

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. Thanks!

I took it from the Photo Gallery at clark04.com. I think they're a gorgeous couple. They compliment each other. They will make a great First Family!

Go, Wes!

[MoonRiver]

14. My new version of Heaven is Wes and Gert Clark occupying our WH!

It will be such a wonderful day when General Clark's inauguration takes place, with Gert, their son, daughter-in-law, and tiny Wes III (?) in attendance. Finally, I will be able to put the trauma of the SCOTUS engineered election theft 2000, and all the horrors that followed it, behind me.


O8)

[Ilsa]

48. From your lips to the Goddess' ears...

I keep hoping all day long. I can't do much good for him in Texas unless he gets caught with a goat or Condi, but I spent time on the phones for him for NH.

[kixot]

5. They do look good together, don't they?

Sigh, I can only vote once.

[kayleybeth]

2. Way to go Wes!

Another reason to love Wes Clark! I wish the other candidates would follow suit.

[in_cog_ni_to]

6. Blitzer showed the Reading Room

on TV. Piles and piles of documents! I'm waiting Howard. Where are your Vermont SEALED records?

[lurk_no_more]

34. In reality

When you first heard of dean's sealed records, did you actually believe they'd ever see the light of day before the 10 year seal?

With one excuse after another for why they shouldn't be opened and now the threat of appeal in order to keep them sealed, it boggles the mind that the same people here on DU were blasting bush and cheney for hiding things are now some of the same people that are making excuses for why dean should keep his records sealed, IMO dean is hiding alot more than names of gay constituents.

Clark has opened all the records that are his to open, ANYONE can read them if so inclined, he's hiding nothing, sealing nothing, documents that the DOD has are sealed for security reasons and beyond Clark's control.

The openness of Clark and his past make him heads and shoulders above dean in this respect.


And then there were none!
” JAFO”

[Democrats unite]

7. Great news!

eom

[returnable]

8. As usual, the leader leads the way!

:toast:

[madmax]

9. Check this out

Clark Calls For Open Government
Opens His Own Documents To The Public
Creates Manchester Reading Room Of All His Records
Manchester - Today, Wes Clark opened the doors to his Manchester Reading Room and Clark slammed the Bush Administration for governing behind closed doors. The public can come to the Manchester Reading Room to find out about Wes Clark's personal and financial track record.

"It's time President Bush played it straight with the American people," Clark said. "President Bush has shut the people out of government and told them they have no right to know what he says to special interests in the Oval Office. As President, my administration will be an open book. We need a higher standard of leadership in Washington."

Clark put forward a two-part plan to reverse the Bush Administration's secrecy policies and to make his administration the most open presidency in history:

Reverse Bush Secrecy Policies:

End hiding of documents through classification extension and FOIA rollbacks.
End the stonewall of the investigation of September 11th and Bush's Energy Task Force.
Establish an Openness Doctrine:

Restrict the assertion of executive privilege.
Eliminate secret task forces.
Disclose all meetings with special interests.
Require lobbyists to reveal more.
Use the Internet to make government transparent.

http://www.clark04.com/press/release/185/

[mzmolly]

10. It helps when most of his records are classified by the US Government

*what's he got on the site, his diary?

[DancingBear]

12. We could ask the same of Dean, couldn't we?

Oops, no we can't. It's that "sealed" thing. :shrug:

[returnable]

16. The entry for 1/16/04:

Dear Diary,

When will Dean unseal his records?

:hi:

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. hehe

:yourock:, returnable!

[Closer]

26. Gert

bares a striking resemblance to Pickles Bush in that picture. Anyone else think so?

:shrug:

[Bread and Circus]

18. Can't Clark get at least one good word from you? I mean, this is at least.

a step in the right direction, no?

[Clark Can WIN]

51. Some people might believe that Deans wife bears a striking resemblence to

Mr. Ed, but you won't find me polluting a Dean thread an immature appearance based slam on a candidates wife. It would only reflect poorly.

On Edit: I always find it sad when people are so desperate for a critical response that they have to resort to a proxy personal attack.

[KT2000]

11. Very Impressive

this is another reason why I like Clark. He dispenses with those things considered controversial by being open and honest so he can move on to the important issues of this campaign.
He does not duck those - he has policy papers on his site for all to see.

He does not allow others to set his agenda - he is the leader!
All the way to election day with Clark!!!

[madmax]

13. This should preclude the media

from making major headlines about non-issues as they did to Gore. Every lie, distortion etc. must be met with swift and forceful rebutals.

Wes Clark for America! :hi:

[Dookus]

27. This is easy to do when you've lived a lifetime

of integrity and honor.

He doesn't have anything to hide to avoid "embarrassment", as Dean has admitted.

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. He is nothing less than an

open, honorable and sincere man. The reading room is the PERFECT answer to accomodate any questions someone may have. Geez....who could ask for more? This man is damn near perfect!

Go, Wes!

[MoonRiver]

20. 99.9% perfect.

Yep, I can live with that!

[11cents]

19. I am loving this campaign!

Lots to be learned from the Clark and Dean campaigns both.

(But I'm just full of warm fuzzies today. I'm sure it will pass ....)

[Dubyawatchers]

21. Does the "Reading Room"

Does the "Reading Room" contain the names of the innocent civilians
in Serbia and Kososo that were killed by Nato during his 78 day bombing campaign while he was Nato commander?
Or even an apology for their deaths.

These are historical facts and a part of his record.

[funky_bug]

22. What it won't contain

Are the names of the millions of Albanians who were liberated during Clark's military action. It also won't contain the names of the US soldiers killed in Kosovo, as there weren't any.

[MoonRiver]

23. You could ask the same thing of the Allied Forces in WWII

There's no difference in my mind. I said so at the time. I was furious with Clinton for not doing the correct thing and stopping the ongoing genocide. He finally did so, but, apparently, only with General Clark's intervention. Clark is my hero!

[Name removed]

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[Dookus]

30. First...

why not post a link, instead of an >800-line post? It's rude to everybody trying to read this thread.

Second, your intimation is that somehow Clark killed these people. That's ridiculous.

Why not respond to the issue being discussed, which is the release of Clark's records? This list has nothing to do with Clark's records, other than to make a dramatic, yet misplaced point.

Clark didn't kill these people. Clark had nothing to do with this. And it's off-topic.

[lurk_no_more]

35. Why bother

Same old same old, been discussed, dissected and dehydrated before, can't promote their candidate so they try and tear down yours.

Pathetic!


And then there were none!
” JAFO”

[funky_bug]

38. This one I will continue to debunk

Because for the countless newbies signing on every day, this assertation (unfounded, I might add) that Clark is responsible for the behavior of SOA graduates some 20 years ago (prior to his involvement with the school) needs to be addressed.

I know it gets weary... believe me. Seems people will believe what they want to believe, regardless.

[Hoppin_Mad]

40. Don't worry - I'll start a brand new SOA thread soon -nt-

[in_cog_ni_to]

46. We know.

And we will continue to debunk it. You're relentless? We are moreso.

[jonnyblitz]

47. I have seen anybody debunk it yet. n/t

[in_cog_ni_to]

49. Do a search. it's been debunked

but you just don't want to accept the explaination. So be it. The truth has been told.

[funky_bug]

52. Try post #32 for starters n/t

[funky_bug]

31. debunked last week n/t

[Hoppin_Mad]

32. It WASN'T debunked - Clark still supports the SOA - and is unwilling

To admit that the SOA instructed people in assassination and torture, even when the US GOVERNMENT has admitted to it.

[funky_bug]

36. History (repeating itself)

According to your post, those deaths occured in 1981, well before Wesley Clark had anything to do with the now re-named SOA. Democrats were in control of the White House and Congress from 1992-1994 and yet they did not close the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation.

That would include Gore, Bradley, and Harkin.

And why didn't they close it? Because, from the time the School of the Americas got started, it's been changed. Every student is screened and they are taught human rights instruction in every class. Clark asserts that anyone committing heinous crimes (WHISC graduates included) should be prosecuted. And many of them were, including Manuel Noriega, who is in jail now,thanks to the USA. WHISC is responsible for promoting human rights across Central America and South America. And rather than try to banish it, we should look at the record over the last 20 years, and recognize that bringing those foreign students here is our best hope for preventing human rights abuses in Central and South America.

[Hoppin_Mad]

42. 20 years eh ? LOL ! I suggest you read up for the upcoming thread ;-)

[funky_bug]

45. Before I do...

Can you tell my why Harkin, Bradley and Clinton didn't close the school? Or is this just meant to be an attack on Clark, and an attempt to hijack this thread?

[NV1962]

41. That's 3 strikes: off-topic, misleading, and a gratuitous smear

• Off-topic as in: "Yes, but what about the weather in Vermont?"
  
• Misleading, as in: "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"
  
• Smear, as in: "Wes Clark does NOT support breeching human rights, and in fact has laid down a challenge to provide proof so that he will "kill" WHISC - or else, shaddap already."

Ugh...

[Jerseycoa]

50. Speaking of beating wives

I would very much like to see all records having to do with Dean's security officer for nine years, state trooper Dennis Madore. Phone records, correspondence, reports, affidavits.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/Investigation/dean_domestic_abuse_040114-1.html

I would like to hear from Governor Dean about why he would write a three page affidavit of support in a custody hearing for this man, saying he was "a firm but gentle disciplinarian," which seems to indicate he was familiar with this family. Why would a governor use his power against a woman trying to keep her children from an abusive husband?

"A spokesman for Dean said the governor's office received formal notification of the Madore investigation but the document could not be found in a search by ABCNEWS of the governor's files."

Open those files.

[JNelson6563]

24. Did you know your sig line pic is too big?

Well you do now. ;-)

[Name removed]

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[in_cog_ni_to]

25. I just saw this on MSNBC

The "Reading Room" is in NH. Have fun...Hoppin_Mad! let's us know when you get back!

[FrenchieCat]

33. What list....

Oh...must be that ignored...

Anyway, maybe now the journalists can read the transcripts from Clark's testimonies....instead of taking Drudges cut and pastes and running with them.

Think Clark is making his point all the way around....

[Hoppin_Mad]

29. Dupe

[in_cog_ni_to]

37. No it's not.

This thread has been here since early this afternoon. Guess again.

[Hoppin_Mad]

39. I was 'duping' my own post - OK ?

[in_cog_ni_to]

44. Sorry. You should have said so...OK? n/t