dean's UN-favorables have doubled!

[bearfartinthewoods]

http://www.pollingreport.com/D-F.htm#Dean


Howard Dean

CBS News/New York Times Poll. Dec. 14-16, 2003. N=716 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 4.

.

"Is your opinion of Howard Dean favorable, not favorable, undecided, or haven't you heard enough about Howard Dean yet to have an opinion?"

date....Favorable... NotFavorable... Undecided....Haven'tHeardEnough
12/03 .....20 ............25 ...............23 ................32
08/03 .....11 ........... 12 .............. 16 ............... 61

[Zynx]

1. So did virtually every candidates'.

Look at Kerry's, Edwards', and others. These are just Republicans lining up against us.

[bearfartinthewoods]

7. Edwards are up by four points...hardly the same as doubled +

[bearfartinthewoods]

9. Kerry's up by 7, again hardly doubled....

[Zynx]

22. It was close to doubling.

Not as many have an opinion. If they did it would have doubled.

[HFishbine]

17. Edwards

favorability trails Dean by 14 points.

[bearfartinthewoods]

34. considering the amount of press dean has gotten as compared to

Edwards, i think that's a reflection of name recognition. the important thing to note is that with all the press he has garnered, dean's unfavorables have doubled which seems to say that the more people learn about him, the LESS they like him. a doubling of the negatives is a very big deal.

last week i was wishing i could have a peek at dean's internals because the change in his strategy indicated something was up. i think this is what is up...his UN favorable numbers.

beyond the scope of the minority of dems who are super pissed off, the majority of the party, not to mention indys and wayward pubbies
may not like the red-faced, screaming image that dean has portrayed.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. So we have a Southerner on the ticket

as VP. And let's remember that Shrub is NOT a Texan but a carpetbagger whose alma maters are Yale and Harvard, not Texas A&M. (Texans I know are very very serious on this point-and you don't mess with REAL Texans!)

[robbedvoter]

3. Ah, yeah, the old VP ploy. I didn't know Nader was from the South!

When are you guys doing to come out and admit you only have 1/2 a candidate?

[Padraig18]

6. That's needlessly confrontational, don't you think?

No one's candidate is 'half a candidate'. :eyes:

[HFishbine]

18. When?

When we have 1/2 the support of the front runner.

[bearfartinthewoods]

5. the only NON southerner dem to win the prez sice FDR was Kennedy

and dean is no Kennedy...

[dsc]

10. Truman

Missouri was a union state. Try cracking a history book.

[Kahuna]

13. Truman was between FDR and Kennedy. Same result..

No Yank since Kennedy has won a general election.

[pansypoo53219]

11. no

George IS completely a texas poser. he knows he is not a born texan so he assumes as much of what he saw. so now he is all swagger hat and no cattle. he is not real.

[Kahuna]

14. Face it. Both bush and Dean reinvented themselves...

for the sake of politics. Both are running on a "Green Acres" schtick. "Darling I love you but give me Park Avenue."

[Scott Lee]

30. You confuse reinvention with self education.

There's a big difference. Educating yourself and changing your position based upon new information is a sign of a superior intellect. Bush clearly has no such intellect, so it can be determined he "changed" for no such reason. Dean, on the other hand (Doctor, got through college with good grades as opposed to Bushhole's 'gentlemen's Cs') is a demonstrably superior intellect who more than once took a politically "unpopular" stance based on his information (the anti-Iraq war stance is one example).

So, sorry kiddo...you're "changed for politics" charge doesn't hold even a thumble full of water.

[corporatewhore]

23. his ass is from conneticut

hes a posuer

[Military Brat]

4. Apparently the efforts of the media are paying off

The question is, who is paying off the media?

[patricia92243]

8. Looks like the Republicans are doing it again - telling us Democrats what

to do - I do so wish the Democrats would stop falling for it over, and over, and over. I can't think how to make us stop shooting ourselves in the foot.

[farmbo]

12. Er...his favorables have also doubled.

And this poll was taken back when we Americans thought Saddam's capture was a heroic operation combining superior intel with special forces acumen.

Now (maybe) we'll know it was a cynical Rovian ploy to rewrite history to boost Bush's re-election prospects.

[arewethereyet]

15. Favorables almost double to a whopping 20%

It seems that people have heard enough and that they are leaning to thinking he's not the guy.

There is no way this poll is good for Dr Dean. And its this sort of thing that have got the leadership convinced that he has to go.

The people don't want him so the leadership must respond.

[HFishbine]

20. 20%

and second only to Lieberman.

It's laughable that way some people try to pin weaknesses on Howard Dean when their candidates are even worse by comprable measures. Laughable, I say.

[arewethereyet]

28. yes and the TItanic was unsinkable till the joyride found an iceberg

Dr Dean is creating his own icebergs like mad.

and how terrible were Clinton's numbers at this juncture ?

Dr Dean may find his bubble bursting, the media will be needing a new darling. Who shall it be ?

Handsome articulate southerner from North Carolina ? Could be...

[HFishbine]

31. Recent Example of Dean Self-Created "Iceburg"

- Saddam is captured
- Dean says we are not safer with him in custody
- Repulicans puke, pundits bash, spineless "dems" join in.
- Americans agree with Dean (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3768353/)
- Terror Alert is raised to orange.

That's a bubble bursting alrigth, but it's not Dean's.

[stickdog]

36. Yeah, the people don't want him, so there's no sense in letting the

people decide.

[rucky]

16. Registered VOTERS - not all Democrats

The numbers are consistent with party affiliation - including the undecideds.

[Rose Siding]

19. Wow- Dean leads by 8-18 pts in the last 6 nat'l polls

and they all have him trending up :bounce:

[Scott Lee]

29. But remember, here on little DU.....

Dean is the enemy, up is down, black is white, and....well you know the rest.

[Justice]

21. Dean Is Not My First Choice

but I have to say, I don't like it that this thread heading has an exclamation point at the end. Not very supportive of dem candidates

[Iverson]

24. but ... the UN isn't voting.

Still, in these days of empire, a vote of confidence from them is all to the good for anyone.

I'd like to know about more candidates' UN-favorables.

[Cheswick2.0]

25. Well that just means you've done your job well

congratulations, I am sure whoever you are supporting thanks you.

[Scott Lee]

26. While his favorables have MORE than doubled.

Facts. They aren't just for breakfast anymore (although they cause Dean opponents a right fit of froth).

[poskonig]

27. Right on.

Don't forget the poll is over a span of four months of non-stop attacks by the right AND left. Dean seems to be holding up pretty well.

[dionysus]

32. so did his positives

so what are you saying?

[farmbo]

33. And his favorables have also doubled...Its called "name recognition"

EOM

[stickdog]

35. Thank God the Dem on Dem violence is working! (nt)

[quinnox]

37. I wouldn't be surprsied to see these unfavorable numbers for Dean

start to spike the nearer the primaries come. All these negative ads about Dean are bound to have an effect, as well as the recent negative press that seems to be just beginning for his campaign.