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AnAmerican Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:16 PM
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Kucinich: Dems Risk Forfeiting Election Over Iraq Occupation
"The Democrats forfeited a chance to regain the House in 2002 because party leaders supported this war," said Kucinich. "We will forfeit the White House this year if we take the same path. Voters will not turn out for a Democrat unless the Democrats offer an alternative to the Republican agenda. All of the other candidates in the Iowa Caucuses are forfeiting to Bush the debate on what should be the central issue of this campaign. Bush wants to leave our troops in Iraq for years, and so do they."


"US military casualties in Iraq have now exceeded 500, and the media has begun comparing the figure to the number of US dead in Vietnam in 1965 prior to the significant expansion of US operations there. We are out $155 billion already with hundreds of billions at stake if we stay in.

"Other Democrats join the Bush Administration in explaining that 'We can't cut and run.' I say we can't continue the damage we are causing and cannot begin repairing it until we withdraw our occupying army. We must pay for what we destroyed. We must pay reparations to the families of innocent civilians we killed and injured. But we must work through the United Nations. We must allow the United Nations to facilitate the creation of a democratic government that will be acceptable to the Iraqi people. No government created by the United States will be. It is better that we recognize this now than after the next 500 deaths."


http://kucinich.us/statements.htm#DemsRisk
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:19 PM
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1. Common sense and reasoning.
*sigh* Too bad those things are considered "fringe" around here, eh?:eyes:
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:17 PM
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5. yeah, but only by the fringe
and you know which kind
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Clark4VotingRights Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:19 PM
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7. Yes, he makes a painful amount of sense.
That radical! :)
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beawr Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:46 PM
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2. I don't think Kucinich is suggesting a Cut and Run either
He wants to hand this over to the UN, in a sensible manner, the way "civilized" nations should. To think of this as fringe is wrong. I am a Clark supporter, primarily 'cause I think he will beat Bush most handily, but I get pretty pissed off when I see DK treated as though he was just this side of Lyndon LaRouche.
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 10:59 PM
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3. Here it is folks
He's telling it like it is. If there is barely any difference betwen Bush and the Dem canidate come the general election, people are going to say "The evil we know vs. lesser of same stance evil."
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:47 AM
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10. 'Better the devil you know'
That's how many people may see things.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:13 PM
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4. not only the election but the whole future of the Dem. Party
The Democratic Party can say goodbye to young(draft age?) voters, service members, veterans, educated people and minorities for favoring the occupation of Iraq.

occupation of Iraq = Destruction of Democratic Party
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Jackson Smith Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:17 PM
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6. Kucinich: master of national campaign strategy <sarcasm>
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AnAmerican Donating Member (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-04 11:23 PM
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8. Kucinich; Intelligent enough to know....
That the nomination of a candidate who is not willing to stand toe to toe against Bush (and his F'ed up policies..ALL of them) is a pretty good bet on four more years of the BFEE.
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ThirdWheelLegend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 04:08 AM
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9. exactly AA, what do we win if we continue the same policies?
We get a (D) next to the President's name. That's about it.

We still have the continued illegal occupation and the death that it brings, NAFTA, the Patriot Act, millions without healthcare, a ridiculous military budget used to bring death and fear across the world. What else do we as (D)ems want to continue?

The choice is clear... Kucinich.

TWL
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 11:27 AM
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11. Let's not forget coattails
We need a contender that can inspire people to vote for downballot Dems.
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Nadienne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 11:48 AM
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12. Kucinich: Unwilling to pander to the media
There are those who talk the talk. There is one who walks the walk.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:49 PM
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13. "There is one who walks the walk."
I like that. :)
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