TIME: Dean disingenuous about Carter invitation, Dean invited himself

[Clark Can WIN]

Invitation? What Invitation?
Howard Dean says Jimmy Carter asked him to church in Georgia. Carter doesn't think so
By KAREN TUMULTY
<snip>
While the former President wouldn’t endorse Dean explicitly — such a move would be unseemly in the midst of a hard-fought primary — campaign aides put out the word that he would do everything but.

<snip>
The decision to go to Plains wasn’t even a close call, Dean later suggested. “When the former President of the United States asks you to go to church with him on a Sunday before the caucuses, I think you probably take that up.”

<snip>
The summons from Plains? Carter doesn’t remember it quite that way. “I didn’t invite him, but I’m glad he came,” the former President told reporters shortly before he conducted one of his frequent Sunday School classes at Maranatha Baptist Church. “He called me on the phone and said he’d like to come worship with me. … He called and asked me if it would be all right.” As for the timing, Carter’s son Chip later told reporters that the former President had also offered Dean dates in February and March. It was Dean — not Carter — who picked the day before the caucuses.

http://www.time.com/time/election2004/article/0,18471,579006,00.html

[Snivi Yllom]

1. oh please...

non-story...

[Clark4VotingRights]

7. Story

Revealing story.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

2. Fascinating Article

I love it. :-)

DTH

[Cronus Protagonist]

3. Good Job, Dean!

He needs to do more of these great vote-getting media moments.

"FUCK Bush" Buttons, Stickers & Magnets

[Padraig18]

4. This is a dupe of a locked thread.

Its' also a continuation of a flame war currenty raging here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=135562

[DoveTurnedHawk]

8. Not a Dupe

The focus of this article is completely different from the Newsday story you link to.

It's also not a continuation of a "raging" flamewar since the poster of this thread is not even participating in that debate (I won't call it a flamewar because the entire thread is only like a dozen posts long).

DTH

[Padraig18]

14. It IS a dupe

I didn't refer to a Newsday story! The fucking thread I refer to was active just this morning, dammit, and is based on this same freaking article!

[DoveTurnedHawk]

15. I Understand Now

See below.

DTH

[Padraig18]

17. I'm talking about THIS:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=131592&mesg_id=131592

[DoveTurnedHawk]

19. Aha. Thanks, You're Absolutely Right.

Although the dupe thread is not locked, it's still going.

DTH

[Padraig18]

21. Sorry I lost my temper, but this is just bullshit! n/t

[Clark Can WIN]

23. this is not a dupe

I looked carefully for anything related on the first page as per the rules.

There was nothing on the first page identical or near identical to this.

I am not involved and have not read whatever flame war is being discussed.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

27. Hit Padraig's Link in Post #17

It's the exact same article, although the poster of the earlier thread chose a different title.

DTH

[Clark Can WIN]

34. I can tell you it was not on the first page

I checked very carefully.

[Padraig18]

28. This IS a dupe!

Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=131592&mesg_id=131592

And whether or not you are 'involved' in a flame war is completely irrelevant!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

20. Says "TIME" to me. And Karen Tumulty.

[Gman]

5. Anything but a "non-story"

If Dean invited his self and claimed Carter invited him, Dean raises even more serious credibiltity questions.

Is Dean cracking under the pressure?

[Name removed]

9. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Jerseycoa]

11. This was so stupid

How does manipulating a saint like Jimmy make anybody look good? I will never get it.

[mzmolly]

6. Dup...

:hi:

[funky_bug]

13. I know it's a dup

but as soon as certain DU'ers stop bringing up the same 'dup' issues regarding Wesley Clark, MAYBE, just maybe then, they'll have just cause to point the finger at threads like these.

The "dup" claim goes both ways... SOA anyone? DNC anyone? Closet Repug, anyone?

Think about it.

[KittyWampus]

25. Well, There're Multiple Threads Re: Mrs. Dean & Kucinich/Edwards Right Now

:shrug:

[Padraig18]

29. So?

Your point would be...? :shrug:

[in_cog_ni_to]

10. Just goes to show you

a lie will ALWAYS catch up to you. :7

[KittyWampus]

12. How Can We Find A Way To Blame This One

on Chris Lehane?

[funky_bug]

18. I know! I know!

Since Clark also met with Carter, but Lehane DIDN'T force the media attention on them, he was passively-aggressively waiting for another candidate to meet with Jimmy Carter, publicize it, and then he could say, "See, Clark kept it quiet... your guy is a media whore."

Thus endeth the scenario.

[lurk_no_more]

16. After Yesterday I'm pretty sure

everyone knows about dean's little....shall we say....misunderstanding of reality and how it was perceived by most.

Please, let's not go there again!


And then there were none!
” JAFO”

[meow mix]

22. thanks for posting - great article

“When the former President of the United States asks you to go to church with him on a Sunday before the caucuses, I think you probably take that up.”


“I didn’t invite him, but I’m glad he came,”
“He called me on the phone and said he’d like to come worship with me.

He called and asked me if it would be all right.”

OMGLOLOL!!!!

[Padraig18]

24. You can read it twice.

It's posted on page one two times, as of now.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

32. What do you expect? Dean supporters are trying to spin this as a positive

Therefore, Dean opponents are getting the facts out there for everyone to see.

[Cuban_Liberal]

33. The 'facts' are hardly incontrovertible.

Futhermore, is it neccessary to get them out twice on page on?

[Bread and Circus]

26. Seems like Clark had similar problems with Dean...

It seems as if Clark and Carter have different "recollections"
of what happened.

[redqueen]

30. Oh for crying out loud

This is awful.

I didn't see this yesterday. Thanks for posting it.

:(

[BootinUp]

31. Seems like Dean forgot

how to get good press. All he gets is bad. Wonder who the crack reporter was that broke this originally.

[Moderator]

35. Dupe....locking

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=131592&mesg_id=131592