Dennis Kucinich hasn't been able to BUY press coverage.

[dawgman]

He is the epitome of someone running an outsider campaign. He can't get on TV and can barely get into the debates (see certain DLC DNC types saying his presence "cheapened" the other candidates).

He is the most progressive/liberal candidate the Dems have offered up in recent memory and with the passing of a certain senator from MN he has become the liberal conscience of the party.

With one brilliant move he has now splashed his name across the headlines of the cable news channel and has MANY people talking about him. He just got the first big pub of his campaign and may have moved himself into the top four or five candidates in Iowa.

He hasn't endorsed Edwards. He hasn't sold his soul to the corporate devil. He made an astute political move. That is all he did, make a move that garnered him positive national attention and may have given his presidential bid a shot in the arm.

Kucinich is the only truly liberal voice in this SOB. Just be thankful it is going to be heard a little louder and longer because of this.

[Desertrose]

Hear! hear!

I totally agree.....

People may be surprised at how well Kucinich does!
Go Dennis!!!

Peace
DR

[Terwilliger]

1. So Kucinich acts like a politician and gets coverage for THAT

sounds great

[dawgman]

3. Look, he didn't lie or make promises that he then wouldn't keep.

He made a deal that doesn't affect his views. It just gave him pub and possibly money and stature. He hasn't compromised himself.

And do you know what the sad truth is? If he had, he still would be the most uncorrupted and liberal outsider politician in the race.

[Cuban_Liberal]

2. Why can't he get onto TV?

If he has the money, I believe it's illegal for them to NOT sell him air time.

[dawgman]

6. I wasn't talking about commercials. I was talking about news coverage.

Sorry for the confusion.

[Cuban_Liberal]

7. Oh.

OK. :)

[dpbrown]

4. An ASTUTE political move on Mr. Kucinich's part

Go, Dennis, go!

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[Clark4VotingRights]

5. I love Dennis.

Humankind can't do any better than him.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

8. Kucinich did win the last two debates

I'd watch the media coverage though, the Corporate Media obviously has an agenda.

It's funny that this is even getting that much attention.

[dpbrown]

9. Because the media is interested only in "conflict"

The commodotization of the news requires front page, splashy bits to shake the sleepy consumers from their SUV-craving trance.

This fulfills that agenda, gets everyone excited, and makes the bought-and-paid-for media more money.

But in order to get noticed, you have to play that game.

Way to go, Dennis!

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[dawgman]

10. I was born in St. Louis Park in Minneapolis now live in SEA WA but in

talks with some of my remaining contacts out there I have found that most are DK supporters. Do you find this to be true?

Just curious.

[dpbrown]

13. DK has strong support in Minnesota

His largest stop on his national announcement tour was in Minneapolis, where he packed an auditorium in south Minneapolis with over 1600 people.

The DFL "establishment," however, has made it pretty clear that they prefer Dean.

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[dawgman]

14. Seems DK's message would carry VERY well out there.

I can't imagine another candidate that could relate to the "farmer minnesotan" quite as well.

[dpbrown]

18. Dennis talked specifically about getting farmers on the energy "grid"

A very smart thing to talk about, since many farmers out here are sitting on windy territory, and the current energy structure puts impediments in the way of farmers being able to contribute to the energy production market.

Whenever I bring this issue up with farmers, they agree it makes a ton of sense.

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[dawgman]

27. They've done that out here along the columbia river basin and it has

worked out very well for the community.

[dpbrown]

36. Dennis has one big win against private power monopolies already

And I trust him implicitly among all the candidates to take on the big private power monopolies and their hold on the production reins of power.

Farmers would be big winners if they were enabled to become small-time power producers.

I'm glad it's worked out well in the Columbia River basin.

It would work fantastically on the high ridges of southeastern Minnesota.

Enron already tried to get in there and monopolize the wind market.

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edit: spelling

[dawgman]

38. This is the type of thing that could restore some form of Jeffersonian

Democracy with small self-sufficient farmers weilding some form of power again. Good move DK.

[mandyky]

11. Dennis called the Guy James show

and I was really disappointed with his answers to questions - mostly he just kept repeating go to my site - kucinich.us or whatever it is.
At first he blew Guuy off by telling him he wasn't interested in radio interviews, he prefered TV coverage. Those 2 things kinda soured me on DK, although I agree with him on many issues.

[dawgman]

12. curious what that has to do with the thread?

[mandyky]

21. The point is

if he is that picky and just gives oout his website and doesn't answer questions all the press in the world won't bring him voters.

[dpbrown]

28. Since he won the last two debates...

...and put Koppel in his place...

...and has the most cogent, clearest, and most Democratic positions of any of the candidates...

...this kind of quickie swipe at Dennis doesn't stick, and all the voters in the world who haven't already settled on a "compromise" candidate understand that.

Dennis thinks on his feet better than almost any politician.

And this astute political move with Edwards proves he has the savvy to put his clear, beautiful ideas for healing the nation of the illness the BFEE has visited upon us, into action.

What a great politician this man is.

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[dawgman]

30. Thanks for responding. I think some Dean people

are upset right now and looking to take it out on someone. Besides a disenfranchised DKer might be looking Dean's way, so why not try and fuel some discontent.

[mandyky]

34. What I said was not as a Dean person

It was as someone who had heard one of his interviews. Yes, he does well in the debates.
Sorry you don't like an honest opinion.

[arewethereyet]

15. so is that an outsider move ?

its a very smart move but its clear what he does for a living. Doesn't bother me but I can't guage his supporters on this. They seem tohave been upset about the whole thing. Very short sighted.

[dpbrown]

17. This is clearly a very astute political move

Any Kucinich supporter who actually wants Dennis to have a chance, and to be able to influence the convention, will be extremely happy with this move.

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[arewethereyet]

23. that was my opinion as well. Some supporters feel otherwise.

don't understand why.

[stickdog]

24. How can you say that?

You realize, don't you, that the vast majority of DK supporters aren't horse traders by nature?

You realize, don't you, that the hardcore antiwar activists who feel that compromising is OK if it helps you win are already working for Dean?

DK just tossed his candidacy off a cliff. I sure hope Edwards gave him a golden parachute.

[dpbrown]

32. With English words held together with vocabulary and supported with logic

Thanks for asking.

And you in no way understand, nor speak for, the majority of Kucinich supporters.

No "hardcore" antiwar activist who did even the tiniest bit of research into Dean's support of the Biden-Lugar Amendment is currently a Dean supporter, regardless of how they feel about "compromising."

This is a straw man set up by stick-people to pretend to have an argument tearing Kucinich down.

Nothing more.

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[arewethereyet]

33. I would have to suggest that if you supported Kucinich only for that

that you picked the wrong guy to begin with.

He certainly has not run as being nothing more than an anti-war candidate.

[maddezmom]

16. hope he does well tonight and surprises all the media

he may get more media coverage tomorrow if that happens. I think the deal he made w/ Edwards was pure strategy on both the candidates part.

[DemBones DemBones]

19. It is a good move -- you can tell by how upset it's made some

supporters of other candidates.

[stickdog]

22. Yes. Good = bad for Dean. (nt)

[dpbrown]

25. Those who would have him permanently "marginalized"

But with this very astute political move, Dennis has not only capitalized on the strength of underdogs banding together to deprive frontrunners of delegates that they might otherwise take, he he's also earned himself a ton of free publicity at exactly the right time.

This reaffirms my faith in his keen political sense. This man is no amateur.

He is the candidate who has the best ideas, the candidate who has the most integrity, and the candidate who has the savvy to give us a new nation healed of the wounds the BFEE have inflicted on us all.

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[stickdog]

29. The establishment hates Kucinich even more than they hate Dean.

He's not ever going to get enough good press to get out his message because his message is a HUGE problem for the establishment.

He's being used to make Edwards look like a more acceptable choice to the far left, just like Moore is being used to make Clark look like true lefty.

DK lost more than half of his supporters today. I hope it the media bounce you're counting on is worth it.

[stickdog]

20. Thank God you can always buy press coverage with your

soul.

[dawgman]

26. Well you are right you can buy media coverage with your soul.

THat's not what DK did but he COULD have. He didn't endorse Edwards, he struck a one day deal with him. I benefits DK's campaign. If Dennis starts to come out and say that he was wrong and the Iraq war was the right thing to do well then we'll talk about his soul. Until then just hold your tongue and leave the sour grapes you seem to be eating over the flagging Dean prez bid out of the debate.

[stickdog]

31. Dennis has always been my second choice. I've distributed his

literature. My brother is one of his team leaders.

I'm just telling you how it is. There's definitely a sour taste in our mouths right now, but it's not from grapes.

See, there's this little thing called US imperialism that we don't cotton to. And, for some strange reason, we always thought Kucinich was on our side.

[dawgman]

37. I just don't understand why you think his ideals have changed.

He cut a ONE DAY deal. He improved his campaign. He allowed his poignant message to be heard by more people. DK is still the only candidate that offers REAL change and a chance to become the country we should be. I am sorry about the sour grapes thing I have been grumpy all day. I even got my first warning today.

[maxr4clark]

35. completely right

...his campaign hasn't received very much in the way of contributions, so he hasn't been able to put very many ads on TV.

I applaud him for keeping his message in the minds of the Democratic voter. If he were to win the nomination, I would vote for him.