Notarized Affadavit: Programmer Admits to Writing Vote Hacking Software

[AlexHamilton]

Notarized Affadavit: Programmer Admits to Writing Vote Hacking Software for Florida Congressman. I have also added a copy of the affadavit to my website as rawstory.com seems to be flooded. You can view the mirrored copy here Mirrored Affadavit.

Note that the method of hacking described in the above affadavit leads to a known distribution of votes ~(51-49%). Compare to table 1.1 from The Unexplained Voting Poll Discrepency: Part I. It had always struck me as odd that the places where exit polls deviated substantially all ended up ~(51-49) one way or the other.


Further analysis coming...

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[aquart]

1. ALL 51-49???

Okay, now I'm having heart palpitations. That's demonstrable, provable EVIDENCE of fraud, isn't it?

Or have I started hallucinating?

[AlexHamilton]

3. Trying to get this document out...

Got taken out of LBN - thought affadavit would be news. Maybe pass it around on AIM and nominate for front page if you think it's worthy. Thanks for your help.

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[da_chimperor]

2. It would be nice if this was true (the affidavit)

but I'm skeptical. I could doctor a document like that pretty easily, especially since it's in digital form. After reading it, the terminology used seems to be that of someone who doesn't know anything about programming. 'invisible buttons', adding a 'module' to a system? It's fake, IMHO.

Edit: I read through it again, it I think I misinterpreted the two words I specificied above. Those no longer really stick out at me as much. I still think that the way the part regarding the programming aspect of this is written sounds wrong. The fact he goes out of his way to demonize his apparant former employeer doesn't really seem to help either. If he was swearing that he has firsthand knowledge of vote fraud, that would be more than enough.

[AlexHamilton]

4. Here...

There are more link about this. I'm not sure how reliable bluelemur.com is but they are carrying the story as well. They have been flooded quite a bit this afternoon, so don't be surprised if they are down...

Blue Lemur

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[rodeodance]

5. If true, we should be hearing from Rep. Feeney (FL) soon!!

http://www.bluelemur.com/

In sworn affidavit, programmer says he developed vote-rigging prototype for Florida congressman; Congressman’s office silent
Filed under:


— site admin @ 1:27 pm Email This

DEVELOPING TUESDAY A.M.: RAW STORY exclusive interview with programmer

By John Byrne | RAW STORY Editor

While working for Yang Enterprises in Florida, the 46-year-old programmer says he was instructed by then-Republican state representative Tom Feeney to “develop a prototype of a voting program that could alter the vote tabulation in the election and be undetectable.”

Feeney, a former failed running mate of Gov. Jeb Bush, now represents Florida’s 24th district in the House of Representatives. At the time, he was serving both as general counsel and lobbyist for Yang Enterprises and the Florida state congressman.

Feeney’s office in Orlando told RAW STORY they would check with the congressman and hoped to provide comment later today. A second call was placed this afternoon; the congressman’s press secretary was said to be “unavailable.”

A receptionist at Yang Enterprises said she would pass a message along to a vice president, who she said would return the call.

[AlexHamilton]

6. Buzzflash

Buzzflash is now carrying this story as its lead

[da_chimperor]

17. Just because they picked it up doesn't add to it's validity n/t

[AlexHamilton]

42. True...

Just letting you know that some of the more reputable sites are carrying this. However, no amount of reputation can ever make something true.

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[Virginian]

45. "However, no amount of reputation can ever make something true."

It seems to work for Bushco. Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes truth.

[deminflorida]

7. Is this like some shit out of a spy novel or what????

O.K. I think this is bull-shit. I'm a IT Professional myself.

This guy is full of shit: or so stupid, maybe the crooks have actually tripped themselves up.

The following statements are the giveaway:

"(c) the programming to accomplish this remain hidden even if the source code was inspected.

I told him that it would be virtually impossible to hide such code written to change the voting results if anyone were able to review the uncompiled source code.

However if the code were compiled before anyone was allowed to review it then any vote fraud would remain invisible to detection."

THE FACTS ARE LIKE THIS, the fraud may be invisible but the code can be decompiled and inspected by using one of the many decompilers that are available.

Have the GAO check the machines and get them to the FBI computer labs. If there was fraud using something like this it will show up, that's for sure. Then again they have to be smart enough to lock down the machines and seize them as evidence.

[da_chimperor]

9. Yup, I was thinking that too. n/t

[fnottr]

13. You are correct, but,

disassembly is a far more complicated and time consuming task than inspecting the source. Furthermore it's also (most likely) illegal to do without a warrant, since it falls under reverse engineering which almost invariably violates the software license.

No doubt the FBI could figure it out if they investigated, but it will be a lot many, many times harder than inspecting the source code.

[sendero]

8. Well...

... I've read it and from a programmer's perspective I understand it and it sounds very credible from a technical standpoint.

The only quibble I have with it is the repeated assertion that if someone had the source code they could see the fraudulent sections but if they had the object they could not.

This might be practically true but it is not technically true. It would be much, much, much harder to see the bogus code with only the object, but not impossible.

Also, I have contemplated how these machines could be rigged before, and this sounds like a very elegant solution. Invisible buttons are simple - you make a button on the touch screen that colors itself just like the background. Therefore you cannot see this button on the screen, but if you know where it is you can trigger it by poking it just like any other button. Pretty clever, and it allows real-time tweaking of the vote. The down side to this method is that you have people in the voting areas doing the fraud, which means it takes a lot of people to pull it off. If you do the fraud at the central tabulator level, only one or two people have to be in on it.

I have long felt that if someone did program the system for fraud, that would be the weak point - because they would have to use a real techie and they might not find one who is also a true believer.

Drip, drip, drip.

[da_chimperor]

11. From a technical standpoint I guess. The way it's written is my problem

The wording, how it reads, it doesn't read right IMO. I'm basing this on lots of other material I've written regarding hardware and software. I'm not an expect, but I think this is fishy at best.

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. The fraud could have been done remotely

In FL there are two opportunities for this, even though there are a few weak checks and balances.

First is at the end of the day, when the polls close, the results are transmitted via modem to the central tabulators. Then the next day, the results are transmitted via the Internet to Tallahassee. Both transmissions would probably be vulnerable to hacking.

[fnottr]

10. Well nothing in this affadavit stands out as blatenly strange

Based upon my (somewhat limited) experience with programming, this seems like it would be a reasonable way to accomplish the fraud. I wonder how far this will go.

[AlexHamilton]

12. Decompiling...

Does decompiling actually give you the original source code?

[fnottr]

14. no

Here's a quick computer lesson:

Software is generally written in what's called a 'high level language' when it's compiled, it's turned into the machine code the computer runs, which is in effect nothing more than a long string of numbers. What decompiling does is look at that string of numbers and display every single step that program is tells the processor to do. Labels are given to each different command the processor can do, and those labels make up 'assembly language'.

So in short you can look at every single step the program tells the processor to do, but that is significantly more difficult for humans to decode than high level source code.

Edit:

Sorry, that probably doens't make a whole lot of sense, and in truth it's really a bit more complicated than that.

[AlexHamilton]

41. Thanks...

I think I get it. Say the code was written in C++ and compiled to an exe file. You could decompile it into assembly code, but not see the original C++ code with comments and easy to decipher logic. I didn't think you could see that from a decompile, but I wasn't sure.

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[fnottr]

46. yeah that's pretty much it n/t

[clem_c_rock]

15. BEING A PROGRAMMER MYSELF - THIS IS SOOOO EASY

The algarithms for something like this would take less than 100 lines of code at best give or take the actual user interface.

A non-paper trail computerized voting system - Are you out of your mind!?? This is insanity people!!!!!!

START GETTING A LITTLE MORE SUSPICIOUS ABOUT WHAT THE F*** IS GOING ON.


learn how to rig the machine tally's here: http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00065.htm#password

Security Flaws anyone?
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0302/S00052.htm

Learn about the wonderfull crew at Diebold:
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html

Oh by the way you most trusting sorts of folks - These machines run on windows 95/98 platform !!!!!!!EVEN MICROSOFT WILL TELL YOU TO NEVER RUN ANYTHING TO DO W/ SECURITY ON THESE PLATFORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

next thing you people will try to tell me is that arabs flew planes into those buildings!

Clem C...

[da_chimperor]

16. So, can you actually prove what you're saying?

:shrug:

[w4rma]

18. This is Computer Science 101 stuff. (nt)

[da_chimperor]

19. So they covered that he was a computer programmer and how to

write a program to steal elections with less than 100 lines of code in your computer science 101 class? Wow. So I guess that means he should be able to explain everything very easily. :shrug:

[clem_c_rock]

24. not the whole program.....

Just the part where you can manipulate the votes.

[da_chimperor]

26. Can you demonstrate? n/t

[loritooker]

34. raw story is looking for programmer's help

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=119385&mesg_id=119905&page=

On the election results forum they are looking for programmers who could help prove or disprove this.

[InvisibleBallots]

20. I think this is disinformation

This is disinformation designed to discredit and distract people looking into election fraud.

First, the future speaker of the house just waltzed into some company and asked for a way to rig votes without anyone detecting it? In the real world people are much more subtle. Doesn't ring true.

Second, the method of fraud - much easier to do this at a central level, than have invisible buttons that local operative pushed on election day. It's possible - but not likely. If I was rigging an election, I wouldn't do it that way.

I don't believe it, I think this is 100% phoney, just like those fake documents they fed to what's his name on CBS.

[sherilocks]

21. I tried to find a news article about Raymond Lemme

the man Clint Curtis says was murdered in Valdosta GA, and found nothing at all. Anybody have Lexis-Nexis? Besides looking for Lemme, someone might look up the court cases that Curtis refers to. The only thing I could find was a Clinton Curtis who is contesting his execution in Florida.

[hippy]

23. Clint Curtis

http://www.thudfactor.com/textpattern/index.php?id=996#...


Personal Knowledge of vote fraud

In regards to electronic touch screen voting machines, I have personal knowledge that they might be purposely inaccurate. As a programmer for a company in Florida we were tasked by Republican Tom Feeney with a prototype of a voting program that could switch the vote and be undetectable. If you would like more information please refer to the web site http://www.justaflyonthewall.com/votefraud.html or email me.

If the information is of any value to you, feel free to link to any pages you like.

Keep up the good work.

Clint Curtis
� Clint Curtis Dec 1, 8:51pm #


http://www.justaflyonthewall.com/votefraud.htm

(snip)
While employed at Wong Enterprises, Congressman Feeney had requested if Wong could write a voting program that could alter the vote and be undetectable. As the technology advisor, I explained that as long as the source code was provided and complied under supervision, code which altered the vote and was undetectable could not be built. Another problem would be that no one would trust a program that provided for no paper trail to substantiate its accuracy. When the vote was flipped the paper trail could easily detect the fraud.
(/snip)

[sendero]

25. Hmmm....

.... in the affidavit referenced at the top, it was Yang Enterprises.

In this snip is it Wong Enterprises.

What's up with that?

[hippy]

28. you can't google intentions but,

Clint Curtis is the name at the top of the affidavit, and a google search on him eventually takes you to this website - through the above post on www.thudfactor.com and otherwise - which is apparently registered to Clint Curtis. He Yang'ed his Wong between the website (justaflyonthewall.com, sept 13) and the affidavite(dec 6?)

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Registrant: clint curtis
P.O. Box 955
Woodville, Florida 32362
United States
Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: JUSTAFLYONTHEWALL.COM Created on: 27-Jan-04 Expires on: 27-Jan-05
Last Updated on: 13-Sep-04
Administrative Contact: curtis, clint [e-mail]
P.O. Box 955
Woodville, Florida 32362
United States
8502100047
Technical Contact:
curtis, clint [e-mail]
P.O. Box 955
Woodville, Florida 32362
United States
8502100047
Domain servers in listed order: WSC1.JOMAX.NET WSC2.JOMAX.NET

[sherilocks]

30. Interesting

Woodville is right outside of Tallahassee. Do you think he's still in the Florida? Assuming his affidavit is the real deal, I hope Curtis has a good bodyguard, or he too may end up with his throat slit.

[sherilocks]

37. Adding to my own message

Horrible news, someone killed Curtis's dog.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2004/12/06.html#a962

[Virginian]

47. The affidavit was notorized by a Maryland notory.

Can Notories Public notorize outside their jurisdiction?

[AlexHamilton]

48. it might make sense...

If he was trying to get this to anyone in D.C. That's the only reason I can think of that the notary would be from Maryland.

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[ohioan]

53. He'd have to be IN Maryland to get it notarized by a Maryland notary

He would have to actually be in the presence of the Notary and the Notary can only notarize within the State of Maryland.

[sherilocks]

27. Thanks Hippy, I should have been clearer

I was looking for Clint Curtis court cases. I have already found phone listings that are probably his, (using age given of 46) in Florida and in Virgina. Curtis had his affidavit notarized in MD, so I'm assuming that he probably lives in that area.

[hippy]

29. if you talk to him

tell him i said hi

[sherilocks]

31. Forgot to say

Welcome to DU.

:hi:

[hippy]

32. thanks

[hippy]

35. gee, I guess we should all buy his book now

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0976195917/qid=1102388259/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-0977358-7868919?v=glance&s=books

[newyawker99]

51. Hi hippy!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Doctor_J]

33. Unfortunately, the Rather affair

has all the journalists afraid to run with a story like this. I personally think Rove is a malignant, arrogant pig, but that stroke was masterful. It will be a long time before even the few media people with a conscience will run with anything anti-WH.

[quaker bill]

36. The Yang Enterprises part is real, so is the Feeney connection

I live about 3 miles from Yang's office. It does exist, they do develop software, and they are documented to have been a contributor to Feeney's campaign. I have known all of this since prior to 2000.

This story was reported locally as an investigation of improper billing to FDOT well before the 2000 election. There was also a line of investigation related to potential bid rigging or influence on the part of Feeney who was the local state rep and Speaker of the Florida House at the time.

I do not recall any aspect of this matter being related to vote fraud at the time. That does not mean it is not true.

I guess my point is that this matter existed in the media well before the 2000 election, and I am pretty sure of this. I don't believe it is newly created disinformation. However, I cannot vouch for the voter fraud angle as this is the first I have heard about that.

[bush_is_wacko]

38. I'm not a programmer ...

but please keep us updated w/ regards to this story. If someone can verify the possibility of a program like this working and demonstrate it for someone in the media, they might consider running w/ this story.

[quaker bill]

39. Here is something - Yang , Clint Curtis, and Feeney - Orlando Sentinel

POLITICAL AD RILES OVIEDO FIRM ; THE COMPANY NAMED IN HARRY JACOBS' AD ATTACKING TOM FEENEY WANTS THE SPOT PULLED.;
Sean Mussenden, Sentinel Staff Writer. Orlando Sentinel. Orlando, Fla.: Oct 8, 2002. pg. B.7

People: Mussenden, Sean, Feeney, Tom, Jacobs, Harry
Column Name: ELECTION 2002
Section: LOCAL & STATE
Text Word Count 308
Document URL:

Abstract (Document Summary)
"What we are suggesting in the ad is that is a registered lobbyist and House speaker and he skews the line of ethics. If is upset about its name being in the newspaper or on TV because of Feeney's ethical missteps, they need to blame Feeney, not us," said Azalea Candelaria, a campaign spokeswoman.


FEENEY DENIES USING INFLUENCE ; LETTERS DOCUMENT MEETING BETWEEN HIS CLIENT AND STATE OFFICIALS;
Sean Mussenden, Sentinel Staff Writer. Orlando Sentinel. Orlando, Fla.: Oct 14, 2002. pg. B.1

People: Feeney, Tom, Li Yang, Stone, Kim, Jacobs, Harry
Column Name: ELECTION 2002
Section: LOCAL & STATE
Text Word Count 748
Document URL:

Abstract (Document Summary)
Kim Stone, spokeswoman for 's congressional campaign, said Sunday that neither Feeney nor his staff arranged it. Rather, she said, it was more likely that another partner in Feeney's Orlando law office who also did legal work for arranged it.

........

I was apparently mistaken, the trail only seems to run back to about 2001.

OOPS I found some more featuring Clint Curtis...

FEENEY ANSWERS QUESTIONS ON LETTER ; THE SPEAKER ASKED TO SEE A GLOWING LETTER WRITTEN ON BEHALF OF HIS CLIENT.;
Sean Mussenden, Sentinel Staff Writer. Orlando Sentinel. Orlando, Fla.: Oct 9, 2002. pg. A.1

People: Feeney, Tom, Jacobs, Harry, Curtis, Clint, Georgalis, Mavis, Wurpel, Cindy
Companies: Yang Enterprises Inc
Column Name: ELECTION 2002
Section: A SECTION
Text Word Count 1064
Document URL:

Abstract (Document Summary)
Campaign spokeswoman Kim Stone said to guard against the appearance of an ethical conflict, had advised to hire another attorney and lobbying firm to represent it in the FDOT dispute. Stone said lobbyist Paul Bradshaw, a well-connected Republican with ties to Feeney and Gov. Jeb Bush, had asked and to write the letter.

[AmerDem]

40. This whole thing smells. ....If any truth to it think Rove

but based on what I read and what hippy found the Yang and Wong are mixed up also why the hell would anyone put this out to public with an email address after another person was supposedly murdered, LOL. If this does have any hint of truth to it don't be surprised if Rove and his gang were at it again only this time way in over their heads.

Sounds like second rate story telling to me.

[quaker bill]

43. The guy exists, Yang Enterprises exists, Feeney lobbied for them

A complaint was filed and investigated about wrongful billing to FDOT. Clint Curtis was apparently involved.

Feeney ran as Lt. Governor candidate for JEB in his first try against Lawton Chiles.

Monied Republicans in Florida live in Seminole County in great concentration. There have been other Republican corruption tales coming out of there over the years...

This is the first I have heard of vote hacking though. It is not something republicans ever need to do in Seminole County.

[AlexHamilton]

44. About the Name

Someone had mentioned in the LBN thread that it looked as though the name was misspelled at the bottom. To me it looks like the notary or lawyer changed it before stamping it so that it was his official name rather than the name he goes by. Perhaps this guy does need some better legal counsel.

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[sherilocks]

50. Seminole County was involved in its own court case

in the 2000 election. It was a motion to throw out the absentee ballots. I sat in at the hearing in Tallahassee and the details evade me, but I remember that the supervisor of elections gave the Seminole county repugs absentee ballots, that were not completely filled out, to complete, in a room in the supervisor's office. I particularly remember the case because the then chair of the Florida Democratic party, from Seminole county, made a big stink about it and claimed to witness personally some of the transgressions, but never testified at the trial.

[truthisfreedom]

49. i don't buy it. the notary public's actual name is missing from the stamp

i've got a notarized statement right in front of me, and the notary's stamp contains his name CLEARLY PRINTED as part of the stamp, not just signed in an unidentifiable way.

also, the last sheet of the pdf on the mirror site is a different texture and font from the rest. what's up with that?

[ohioan]

52. Good Catch

In Maryland, the Notary Public's name is printed on the document. Most Notaries have their name printed either on their stamp or seal, although it can simply be typed under the Notary's signature. This is for the express purpose of preventing "anonymous" notarized documents, such as this one. A Notary is essentially a witness who will attest that someone actually appeared before them to swear to the truth of the statements in an affidavit. If the Notary cannot be identified, they really serve no purpose.

This smells pretty fishy.