Is John Kerry interested in overturning the result in Ohio??

[Bleacher Creature]

Does anyone know? He and his staff haven't made it clear enough in their statements and press releases. Maybye if they would say it 10 times in each statement we'd have a better idea of what he's trying to do. Hell, maybe he can just preface every sentence with it.

[insane_cratic_gal]

1. I'd take every other sentence.

[politicasista]

2. That's the problem. He has pathetic advisors.

period.:cry:

[ClassWarrior]

5. Never miss a chance to slam him, do you?

And to use the sad smiley faces too...

NGU.

[politicasista]

11. Sorry, ClassWarrior, been drinking Kool-Aid (LOL!)

I don't like typing negative info on Kerry. I voted for him not just because I was ABB, but I believe in issues like jobs, ecomony, education, etc. It has just been unfortunate that Jesse and other peeps (ok, I am impatient at times) blasting for giving up on us. A

[LittleClarkie]

21. Actually, you've been pretty cool, politicasista

Others, on the other hand...

I'm just sad.

These endless, tit-beating threads don't help.

In answer to the original question: no. It's not about him. It's about the vote. And if trying to flip the election would destabalize the country, I don't think John Kerry the patriot would do it.

He's doing exactly what he said, no more no less. The votes will be counted to the best of his ability. The election will be investigated. But I doubt we will get a Prez Kerry unless a freakin' miracle happens. (hey, ju never know.)

[troubleinwinter]

26. Thanks... ya said it for me. Same ol', same ol' from same ol'.

[DistressedAmerican]

16. Having pathetic advisors is not excuse

As long as he doesn't fire them and get someone with guts he is culpable. He has sold us all out. He never should have been the nominee in the first place. His piss poor campaign proved that (should have fired and replaced his advisors months ago).

These guys have always had the rhetorical clarity of mud.

[ClassWarrior]

3. What? Like during the election when he would say stuff 10-20 times...

...and the Corporate Media Whores would say, "I don't know where he stands on anything. He doesn't take any position." You mean like that?? Don't look now, but I think that's the Whores' fault and not JK's...

NGU.

[emulatorloo]

4. This is about the voters having their votes counted, not John Kerry

Personally, I want John Kerry to lie low on this for a while still.

This is a non-partisan issue, and I don't want to have to listen to freepers, hannity, rushbo etc foaming at the mouth 24/7 about how John Kerry is trying to steal the election, etc etc while Conyers et. al. try to learn the truth.

ON EDIT: correcting stupid typos I always make

[insane_cratic_gal]

8. maybe your right

I don't know what I think atm.

I just want someone to walk in there and kick everyone's ass. I'm angry, i'm shocked at how neglected our democracy is.

Kerry was a fighter, i saw that in the debate, living to fight another day? waiting to challenge congress in Jan?

I don't know, but many of us here he was our elect. For that reason the silence is a hollow echo. There is nothing coming back to us, but the sound of our own voices.

[ClassWarrior]

10. True fighters aren't Rambo. They don't just walk in and kick ass.

True fighters strategize. Read Sun Tsu. And remember, Kerry said he'd fight a smarter war than Junior**.

NGU.

[politicasista]

12. You're right ClassWarrior

:yourock:

[insane_cratic_gal]

13. lol

true it doesn't mean I don't want some verbal ass kicking to happen!

[Bleacher Creature]

14. I think you basically said what we all are feeling.

He absolutely has to make public statements that won't make him look like he's grasping, or that will incite anger. But at the same time, he HAS to let his supporters know that he hasn't forgotten about us. Having a party line is fine, but saying it over and over again when it clearly discourages your most loyal followers is lame. I'd even take silence over that.

[bush_is_wacko]

18. I agree!

I know it sucks that we haven't seen any vindication in the MSM, but if there isn't absolute irrefutable proof of the allegations, we will only be portrayed as poor LOSERS. If these allegations can be proved, whether before or after the swearing in ceremony the zombies will start seeing the invisible ink on their own foreheads and we can be the gracious liberals we have always been. There will be far less mudslinging to deal with if the proof is the vindication!

[mattclearing]

6. Does a bear shit in the woods?

I think his current strategy is smart and correct. No need to embarass himself lobbying for an election that the country thinks is over. Let the people handle it. He has handled himself with dignity and grace, and if things fall our way, he will have a decent shot at making something of the next four years.

[Bleacher Creature]

7. I totally agree that he shouldn't be outright lobbying.

But there is a big difference between engaging in a fully out in the open effort, and prefacing EVERY SINGLE statement with what is basically an apology.

[welshTerrier2]

9. the party line is ...

they want to make sure every vote is counted, fair and square, not to change the outcome of the election but to ensure a proper democratic process ...

i received a letter from Kerry a few days ago that took this position and it's been the position of the Democratic Party spokepeople as well ...

now, is he interested in overturning the result? i'm sure he wouldn't turn it down if the recount reversed the totals ...

[Old and In the Way]

15. I believe you are correct.

The statements since the post election concession have been parsed out and purposely ambiguous....leaving himself plenty of wiggleroom, IMHO.

[sueh]

17. When you play poker, you don't tip your hand.

I think Kerry is doing the right thing by laying low. I'm frustrated as hell, but as someone else has already stated, imagine what would be happening if Kerry was blasting his strategy all over the place.

[Bleacher Creature]

20. My fear is that he's not even playing. n/t

[LTRS]

24. I fear your fear is correct

But the diehards wanna believe it, so I guess we should all be quiet and pretend that their fantasies are reality.

[n2mark]

19. John Kerry

Don't know if he is interested, but if I were him I'd screw it and forget about it. Find someone else to screw!!!!!!!!!!!! Whoever fights for Americans, they are screwed.....

[Freddie Stubbs]

22. He has not said anything to indicate that

He simply wants to make sure the Ohio tally is accurate (or so he says).

[LTRS]

23. DUers having bad case of delusions

They want to believe, so bad, that Kerry didn't just cut and run. But alas, he did. Instead, we get Jesse Jackson speaking up for us. Pathetic.

[ClassWarrior]

25. Yeah, we're all so pathetic, aren't we?

One wonders why one would hang around with a bunch of people one considers pathetic...

NGU.