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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:02 AM Original message |
Democratic Base......The DLC`s indentured servants |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. Hear, hear. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. My sentiments exactly. I'm a 4th generation Dem, too. |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 10:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
68. Yes, I fear save for a few brave Democratic representatives ... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. A good example is the so-called "Social Security reform" of Bush... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Well, actually, I'll give Reid props for doing pretty much |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. But the problem with Reid and his type..... |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
3. Indeed...the Democratic party is going to go through many changes... |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. It nearly makes me crazy |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
7. kick |
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itzamirakul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
8. I see that you, as well as I.... |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. A correction. The link for Dean's group is incorrect. It is: |
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itzamirakul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Ooops! Thanks... |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yes, the Village. n/t |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Is there still a pet shop full of parrots there? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I don't know of a store like that, Janx. What part of the Village? |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Sorry--it was ten or more years ago. |
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prairierose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. I am seriously looking at both... |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
14. and the DLC boogeyman continues |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Tis true. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
65. It's the tag team again! |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 12:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. If Kerry had been true to himself....he would have been a liberal.... |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. he didn't support the war |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 09:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
67. A REAL liberal wouldn't have voted for the IWR in the first place |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
44. bull |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
106. Sorry, the DLC is as much my enemy as.. |
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Edgewater_Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
15. I Ain't No House Democrat |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. great idea |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Oh, I get it. |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. We just ran a true progressive for President |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. "True progressive"? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. Kerry is nowhere near being a progressive anymore |
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Edgewater_Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. You're Too Literal |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. stop making things up |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. Kick out those evil DLCer's. Ban em from the the party. Then we can win. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 12:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Ban their wimpy strategy... |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 12:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. They are people in power. They are the "wimpy" strategy. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Yes..That's what we are saying.... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. So are you a DLC intern or something? |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. No. I just am sick of people demonizing fellow dems. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 07:04 AM Response to Reply #58 |
82. ..and the reason it is the standard is it is way to easy to demonize... |
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ursacorwin (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 02:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. i'm not sure about your standards |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 10:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. So work to out those people. They subscribe to the values. |
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blurp (769 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 10:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
70. Regulate internet political speech? |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 10:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
71. If we have to take some major hits to wake up the Democratic |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
20. Flame bait..anyone? |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 03:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. The same... |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 03:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. well said. i don't even consider the DLC to be true dems after their |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. yes why is it they always attack democrats and kiss right wing ass? |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. The same group attack the DLC. |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 10:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
72. IMHO all of your counter arguments ... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 10:31 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. .... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 07:10 AM Response to Reply #74 |
84. Are we using post counts to judge credibility? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 10:21 AM Response to Reply #84 |
97. my post has zero to do with post counts |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 07:07 AM Response to Reply #72 |
83. except they describe a minority group of "deaniacs" and far lefties... |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 08:28 AM Response to Reply #40 |
96. And many are just plain Democrats... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #96 |
109. who brings out labels???? |
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democratic wing (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
24. Mind reader ;) |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Hi democratic wing!! |
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democratic wing (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
64. Thanks! |
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ShaneGR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
35. It really does crack me up all the anti-DLC posts of late |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. even more humorous if you keep in mind the fact |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. No its not true. We lost because of the DLC. That blog said so. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 07:34 AM Response to Reply #35 |
91. but they have to keep that demon alive... |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
37. You guys give the DLC way too much credit |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. good point, John, but like the rightwing's "communism" and "muslims" |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I thought that was Nader |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:32 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. nah, Nader was the left's darling ... and remained as such for some... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:34 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. he was? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I guess you were fooled |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:46 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. all five of them? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. much more than that |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 10:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. uh huh |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 06:57 AM Response to Reply #69 |
80. yep! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #80 |
98. Well,you convinced me! |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #98 |
105. good |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #53 |
73. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 06:58 AM Response to Reply #73 |
81. Deleted message |
JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:50 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. I dont think a member of the DLC has ever even led us in the houses |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
56. They are stealth DLC. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
45. Fight them in the primary, leave the animosity behind in the general. |
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Doomsayer13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:05 PM Response to Original message |
47. Typical knee-jerk anti-DLC approach |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Nicely put. |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Hell even with the Zellout gone, Lieberman isn't even the most |
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Doomsayer13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 08:11 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. From is useless, obviously |
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FightinNewDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 11:29 PM Response to Reply #63 |
78. "Facts are stupid things" |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 07:13 AM Response to Reply #78 |
85. well said |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 07:15 AM Response to Reply #78 |
87. While it's true that the DLC 'welcomes all' to their meetings... |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 10:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
75. And you know what, it's going to work. :-) |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 07:14 AM Response to Reply #75 |
86. don't let the door hit your ass on the way out |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 08:23 AM Response to Reply #86 |
95. I must admit...YOU are the true face of the DLC... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 10:26 AM Response to Reply #95 |
99. "YOU are the true face of the DLC..." |
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angrydemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #95 |
101. LMAO |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 04:58 PM Response to Reply #101 |
113. Who the hell are YOU? |
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angrydemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. No I'm Not A RWinger |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #95 |
110. because I told a GOP enabling left voter to watch her ass on the way out? |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
57. Just an observation here...but it seems to me that people ought to get |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. Like, Yeah! |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 10:41 PM Response to Reply #57 |
76. Thoughtful points ... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 07:18 AM Response to Reply #57 |
88. but as a mod, perhaps you can clear this up a bit... |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 07:26 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. I'm beyond surprised ... when all else fails (your arguments) ... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 07:30 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. arguments? |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 07:40 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. IMHO the DLC democrats are DINO ... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 07:46 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. INMHO, the far lefty loon nuts are DINO... |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 07:50 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Now who's doing the "name calling" ... I just stated that |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 10:31 AM Response to Reply #94 |
100. Which one of you two has a post in ATA right now wanting threads put.. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #100 |
107. that would be me... partially, anyway |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #94 |
104. payback, my dear |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. Her MO seems to be to keep the party from moving any further right |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. No, her MO is to whine, moan, demonize, insult, attack... |
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angrydemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #89 |
102. Whaaa Whaaa |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Time will tell ... all I'm saying is that I won't vote for a DLC democrat |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #103 |
115. I'm damn close to being as anti-Democrat |
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loritooker (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-04 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
77. I wrote to Nancy Pelosi to not take me for granted |
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KnowerOfLogic (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
79. Say it , Brother /Sister. nt |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
108. Good for you! |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-04 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
111. Well I've read every last post in this thread and can say with confidence |
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