Diehard Kerry Supporters: Do you really believe he would "Un-Concede?"

[KoKo]

I'm an ABB but worked for and supported Kerry Campaign when he was the Nominee. But, I have little faith right now that he's doing anything more than keeping an eye on the recounts and doesn't have strong intentions of doing more than that even if the recounts showed he won. I think he wouldn't want the disruption of fighting to overturn the election. But, that's because I was "ABB."

Do you Diehards really truly believe he would try to go through legal battles to overturn it? Anyone have any sense from being close to his campaign how he would react from knowing what the folks around him thought of his "will to win?"

I've never had a "feel" about how badly he wanted to be President..Did he want it badly or not. I felt his campaign wasn't focused until the end...so it's hard for me to have faith. But, if you Diehards do then tell me what you think he would do from your knowledge and contact with him during the campaign. :shrug:

ON EDIT: I don't want Kerry Bashing...please...just thoughts about what you think he might do from Avid Kerry Supporters.... I'm down in the dumps today about the recount...and wanted to hear some hope.

[s8hanse1]

1. It would be the ultimate Flip-Flop! I love it!

[Her Blondness]

3. Yeah, now we NEED him to flip flop!!!!!

[berni_mccoy]

2. Somebody has to be president...

When the entire current (remaining) administration is impeached.

[MAlibdem]

4. It's OVER!

This kind of speculation IS NOT HEALTHY.

We must now look forward to DNC Chair and 2006 elections (where I think we can clean up nicely).

[genius]

13. No. It's not over till Bush is removed. He's a terrorist who may

destroy the world before 2006. It is not rational to sit by and let him do that.

[brainshrub]

5. The issue isn't if Kerry would win, but if if he at least makes an effort.

But Kerry is a good man who is doing nothing in the face of evil, and it sickens me to notice his absence in this fight.

[Pirate Smile]

6. I think if something came to light that showed he won, there was

major fraud, etc. and there was clear and compelling evidence, not just statistical analysis, he would unconcede.

We don't have that now. I hope it happens but I wont hold my breath.

[ThorsHammer]

8. My thoughts exactly (n/t)

[bowens43]

7. His concession is irrelevent.

The presidency is decided by the votes. If he wins Ohio, he will the next president of the united states.

[zann725]

9. As others speculate, he may be doing so under the radar.

Watching CSPAN hearings yesterday, I decided to 'google' both high-profile, impressive and passionate attorneys in the case...Cliff Arneback (AFD), and John Bonifax (NVRI)...and BOTH groups are based in Massachusetts (AFD in Boston; NVRI in Waltham, MA). Coincidence perhaps...

Both these attorneys are allegedly working for the Green Parties, or other parties in the Election Recount/Fraud case, but in Kerry's hometown he had to be quite familiar with them way in advance of this past November 2. (Both institutes were formed in 1994-95. I'll think on that 'timing' for a while.)

I don't think we should be discouraged by what appears to be 'move on' activity by the DNC. They have future goals and interests of their own, regardless of the outcome of the Recount/Fraud issues.

I don't think Kerry has given up. However one has to remember, at THIS TIME, 'we the people' are the ones with the true power. John Kerry can guide the attorneys behind the scenes...but it is OUR letter writing, and emails, and research, and demand for media attention which is propelling this forward. I really see that as the irony here. We're looking to one person to counter what thousands of corporations with thousands more CEO's are holding in-check with their dollar power in the electoral process. While the $45 Million Kerry saved for litigation is a help, only people power is going to pull this off. Didn't he say in his mid-November video, "I am going to need ALL of you." Well he does now, and it's up to us...to sink or swim.

[DistressedAmerican]

10. It is up to us...

but, the effort would be greatly strengthened if he publicly got on board. He is afraid his political future will be toast if he is viewed as a "sore loser" of some such nonsense. To me it looks like HIS PERSONAL interests over those of his supporters. I think it is really sad.

I too was working hard for him throughout despite he was not my first choice. I really think he owes us to push an investigation. Unconcedeing would depend on the outcome of the investigation. I hope he will do the right thing if this thing can be broken open.

However, I am pretty sure that once the electors vote there is little that can be done. Even if BUSH and CHENEY got impeached (A prospect that I find far less likely than Bin Laden getting to them in their secure, undisclosed locations) and rotted in a gulag, it goes to Hastert. That is why Kerry SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING NOW! The issue is time sensitive. Why do you think Blackwell ran out the clock?

[KoKo]

11. Here's something positive about Kerry involvement...

Thanks All...Just found this article in "LBN" Forum which gives me hope...


I discovered this article after I posted (it's the latest from "North Country News" which has been on top of the election recount) and it seems to say Kerry is more involved than we think. Most of the Kerry quotes we've seen before, but put together in this article, they sound hopeful.

Here's the article, more Kerry quotes in the read:

Area Activists Demand FBI Probe - North County News

Congresswoman Nita Lowey (D/Harrison) told North County News Friday she supports a federal investigation into voter fraud surrounding the 2004 presidential election.

<snip>

Also, asked by North County News about the possibility of a recount swinging the election, David Wade, a Kerry spokesman, said: "We are receiving frequent updates (about) the counting of ballots, so there'll be no surprises."

<snip>

A rally was held in front of the FBI office in White Plains Friday. Westchester County activists are calling on the bureau to investigate irregularities.

Organizer Nick Mottern of Peekskill estimated a 40-person turnout at the 222 Bloomingdale Road, White Plains office.

"Folks were very enthusiastic, glad to be acting on their concerns," Mottern said. "We got much favorable reaction from motorists."

The local activists, whose group is named Transparent Democracy, plan on rallying in front of the building again today (Wednesday) at noon.

(Much More of this article..A great read, in case you missed it)

More: http://www.northcountynews.com/view.asp?s=12-8-04/news3

[Imagevision]

12. Kerry doesn't have to "UNCONCEDE"-- no need to because...

CONCESSION SPEECHES AREN'T LEGALLY BINDING...HEY!, JUST WAIT FOR OHIO TO BE RECOUNTED AND "WE'LL" TAKE IT FROM THERE :)

[Gothmog]

14. Yes

If there was support for the position, i.e. strong evidence of voter fraud linked to the Bush campaign or the results of the Ohio recount justify it, Kerry would un-concede and do what is right.