Was the DLC responsible for the Kennedy assassination?

[Julien Sorel]

Poll question: Was the DLC responsible for the Kennedy assassination?

Look at the evidence: The Northeasterner Kennedy was gotten out of the way and replaced by the Southerner, and more conservative, Johnson. I think it's very likely. On the minus side, the DLC didn't exist back then, but still, the DLC are a crafty bunch of people, and would find a way around that little obstacle.

[LeftCoast]

1. Absolutely! Those bastards will stop at nothing!

*snarf*

[HeilChimp]

15. The bastards at the DLC should merge with the Repugs

They are such neo-con ass ki$$ers that I bet the RLC is MORE PROGRESSIVE than the DLC at this point! Wouldn't suprise me if they conspired with chimp to ice Senator Wellstone either. He was ruining their precious little "centrist" image.


THE DLC...PROUDLY CO-OPING THE REPUGS SINCE 1985!

[greenohio]

28. Careful... anger is how the DLC gets to you.

You must resist the Dark Side.

[genius]

100. Good comment

I think you see these guys very well.

[T Town Jake]

2. LOL...I "get" it, despite initial confusion.

(n/t)

[RandomKoolzip]

3. No, the DLC was formed AFTER the Kennedy hit, so it would-----

Wait a minute! YOU'RE being sarcastic too! DAMMIT!

Jeez, it's so hard to tell sometimes. I always fall for it......

[greenohio]

22. They were underground. They didn't show themselves till it was safe.

[Placebo]

4. O M G

:wow:

[w13rd0]

5. Another thing DLC boosters have in common with the GOP...

...use of hyperbolic ridicule and assinine "well you must be on the side of Ossama" style attacks. But you keep trying, I'm sure there are those out there that appreciate your efforts.

[charlie]

9. Trying to picture the tremulous sweaty Al From

operate a bolt-action without blowing his foot off... imagine his pants-shitting horror when he reaps the Great Society, the rise of identity politics, and civil rights legislation that untethers the South from the Democrats. He would however, get to enjoy 5 years of a Democrat-administered "muscular" foreign policy, so it wouldn't be a total wash.

[Ken Burch]

11. JEEZ!

did you have to give me the image of Al From sweating and
doodying his presumably sweaty pants?
I have to try to get to sleep after that.

[Julien Sorel]

13. Did you know that DLC stands for "Die, Liberal Commie?"

[Kahuna]

93. *Snarf*

:evilgrin: You're so bad....you're gooood.

[genius]

102. That's a joke right, based on their extreme behavior?

After learning that Dred Scott is Bush-speak for Roe v. Wade, it occured to me that there might be a lot of lingo that I am unaware of.

[greenohio]

23. Thats right. All we need to do is DEMONIZE fellow Dems to win.

That strategy has worked for centuries.

[Lone Pawn]

6. Absolutely! The DLC is the cause of everything bad

that happened to anyone ever!

[Ken Burch]

7. Julian, go to bed.

Either you're just being silly
or you're way off your meds.

[Ken Burch]

8. And if your point is that people are too hard on the DLC,

there are other ways to make it.

[greenohio]

20. But this way is way to funny. LOL

Welcome to DU.

[Julien Sorel]

14. The DLC made me do it!

[greenohio]

21. LOL you are on a roll. Get some tin foil. It will protect you.

[Lexingtonian]

10. Via the Bilderbergers, the Bavarian Illuminati, and the Freemasons

Not to mention the Council on Foreign Relations. Just check out Nelson Rockefeller's career change at the time.

I'm sure I've forgotten somebody. Oh, I wonder why that black helicopter with "UN" on the side just landed in my yard? Wait, that's the doorbell, I'll be right ba

<no carrier>

[blondeatlast]

18. The Trilateral Commission and Skull and Bones, silly...

Whatever would you all do without me?

[greenohio]

42. Don't forget the masons....its all described in the DaVinci Code.

Haven't read it. Hear its good.

[sonicx]

12. duh..

:D

[greenohio]

16. The DLC used their mind control ray on Oswald and Ruby... And escaped in

their flying saucer. Thank God I have this tin foil.

This is funniest post I have read on DU in a LONG time.

[blondeatlast]

17. No, they are responsible for CHEMTRAILS!

:tinfoilhat::eyes:

[greenohio]

19. Don't forget how they caused the hurricanes this year....

and the rain in Ohio on election day.

[Q]

24. I think it goes...

...beyond sarcasm when you make light of a president's assassination AND the concerns many Democrats have about a small group of men (not dissimilar to the small group of men who have usurped our government) who are taking 'our' party in a rightward direction against the will of the majority.

But one expexts these types of tactics from those who support the DLC and their agenda. To infer a 'conspiracy theory' and ridicule difference of opinion is their SOP.

What's next? Labeling as 'Anti-American' anyone who doesn't follow the DLC without complaint or doesn't agree with the PNAC/Bush* Doctrine of Aggressive Wars?

[Name removed]

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[NYCGirl]

46. Al From has already called Michael Moore "anti-American."

So I guess it's starting.

Gee, those wacky DLCers.

[erpowers]

25. No

First, the DLC did not exist at that time. I realize you mentioned this, but I think it can be said again. In addition, I do not think they were that smart of a group of people. Second, Johnson helped to push the Civil Rights Act through congress.

[greenohio]

27. Another DLC defender. Don't protect them. They are EVIL.

Evil I tell you...EVIL. We must resist their will. Focus... focus....

[erpowers]

76. No DLC Defender

I do not like the DLC I just do not think they were behind Kennedy's death.

[greenohio]

87. Go one try to cover it up. I will never believe you.

The vote, at least right now, shows that the DLC killed Kennedy.

[Cheswick2.0]

29. no, but they are responsible for almost everything wrong with the

Democratic party now. The DLC is responsible for losing the senate, house and presidency. But of course that makes sense since the organization is now run by a couple of republicans.

[greenohio]

30. You know. The funniest thing about this post.

Is that people are actually voting yes. This says it all.

[Q]

31. Nah...the funniest thing is...

...that there are only a handful of DLC supporters/operatives on this board and their thinking reflects that of Al From and gang. Instead of expressing a desire for discussion and critical thinking on the issues...they prefer to ridicule and demonize.

How about a discussion on why the DLC supports many Bush* policies? Like the 'war on terrorism' in Iraq? Or any number of issues of concern to ALL Democrats?

[greenohio]

33. Thats right. Demonizing Dems is the way to win.

Please I want a list of the "number of issues of concern to ALL Democrats" that the DLC agrees with Bush on.

[greenohio]

35. You know I read this over an over. Its just not funny. Were you trying?

cause you failed.

[Q]

43. I'll encourage you to read the thread: Debunking Centrism...

...and post your comments.

Otherwise...you're acting pretty silly.

[greenohio]

44. I read it already....pretty wordy....not very informative.

Probably is why there aren't alot of posts on it. But you keep on Demonizing Dems who don't agree with you. It is the way to win Q.

[Wind Dancer]

53. I assume your idea of winning is to continue to take the

advice from a bunch of neo-cons posing as Democrats?

[greenohio]

81. Feinstein the neo-con. Never thought of her that way...along with

Stabenow, Rendell, Dodd, Cantwell, Landreiu......

Quite a perspective.

[Cheswick2.0]

59. the funniest part is that you don't get the joke

[greenohio]

84. I get you.....

Win by demonizing other Dems. Its a winner strategy. I'd run with that. Oh yeah... and join the DLC...but don't give them money (kinda confusing there.)

[sendero]

32. No..

.... but if they'd been around then they probably would have.

[greenohio]

34. Underground baby. They hadn't surfaced yet.

Plotting... killing... raping....

[Cheswick2.0]

57. LOL

yup

[The Gigmeister]

36. LOL!!

Very good!!

[greenohio]

37. Welcome to DU. We need more people with a sense of humor.

So many are sooo angry.

[sendero]

38. After all the ground...

... the left has lost we have a right to be angry.

The problem rests not just with the DLC, but they are the most visible proponent of the failed "lets be more like Reps" policies that have made the Dem party moot to a lot of the electorate.

We also need to clean house at the DNC, these mental midgets are getting us nowhere either.

If you aren't angry over losing to the likes of Bush*, what the fuck is wrong with you?

[greenohio]

39. I'm not mad at fellow Dems. But you keep on working to shrink the party..

to get back into power.

[sendero]

40. I'm not mad at them....

... I just want to wrest control of the party from them. They had their day in the sun, it is time to move on.

[greenohio]

41. I'm pretty sure I sensed some anger there. Could be denial.

How do you plan to wrest party control from them exactly? Demonize them on DU?

[Name removed]

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[greenohio]

47. ElectroPrincess are you following me? Awww. I have a new friend!

In short, I don't believe in Demonizing Fellow Dems to win. But its good to hear you care.

[ElectroPrincess]

50. I apologize, for I know that is against THE RULES

And we all know how fond you are of "The Rules."

Bully for you! :wtf:

[greenohio]

52. You are forgiven. I really sense a connection here.

Maybe we could be friends.

[Forkboy]

71. Anyone who responds to him more than once is "following" him

I dont think he grasps the whole message board idea yet.

[Name removed]

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[janx]

48. LOL!

The tag team is very active this morning, getting all excited for some reason!

[NYCGirl]

51. Is it Al From's birthday or something?

:evilgrin:

[janx]

55. As my mother used to say:

"Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed!" ;-)

[Forkboy]

72. DLCgasm

[itzamirakul]

56. Excuse me for butting in but...

I have read this thread up to this point with some interest and I cannot help but asking Green Ohio...aren't Al From and some others from DLC, demonizing Michael Moore on every talk show they can possibly get booked on? Aren't they trying to distance themselves from the liberal arm of this party? Would you say that by demonizing Moore that they think shrinking the party is the best way to get back into power? (You said that of another poster in an earlier post in this thread.)

I mean, THEY (the DLC) are doing the public demonizing of a man who did the work that the DLC and its puppet, DNC SHOULD have been doing.At no time during the entire campaign, did I hear a single one of them make a strong defense of our candidate or point out weaknesses in the Republican strategy for governing America.

Why aren't they taking this vital tv time to demonize Bush for his Social Security privatization proposal? Why aren't they fighting to leave Social Security alone instead of weakly agreeing that "some changes need to be made" when they KNOW that NO changes need to be made?

It is the DLC that is attacking the Democratic Party because it fears losing control and power over the DNC and the wealth that it brings to them personally.

[greenohio]

80. Please do butt....

Michael Moore voted Nader in 2000. Who knows what he'll do next round. Meantime Feinstein, Dodd, Landreiu, Rendel, Kerry, Bayh, Stabenow, Cantwell and dozens of other hard working Dems are protrayed as Satan on this board. Want to beat up Al From, fine. Leave the rest of the DLC out of it.

[itzamirakul]

92. You mention a lot of hardworking

democratic politicians but where the hell are they when they are needed? They are most certainly not making a lot of continuous noise about the lies that the rightwing is telling. If I have ever seen even one of the names you mention on a tv talk show, it cannot have been more than once. What hard work are they doing? Working undercover is NOT what we need right now. I AM demonizing the entire lot of those on the DLC roster specifically because they are NOT out there publicly decrying the lies that the rightwing is telling. Nor are they disputing the lies that Al From is telling.

Can you honestly tell me that you do not believe that these politicans are not more concerned with the corporate donations they need to get re-elected than they are about our concerns? Why should they care if our party is in the White House or not? They get to wield power by pure virtue of being in DC. They network, meet and influence, and get favors and jobs for the future. You are very busy defending some people who are most certainly not defending YOUR rights.

As far as whatever Party Michael Moore belongs to, I still say that Al From is demonizing him for doing the work that the DLC, as the leading component of the DNC, SHOULD have been doing. Can you tell me that it is not wrong for From to spend his time on talk shows lamblasting Moore instead of lamblasting Bush & Co's policies?

[sendero]

66. The same way all politics works..

.... try to convince people that they are on the wrong track.

Feel free to defend me-too centrism, and I will feel free to denounce it.

You seem to think "demonizing other Dems" is bad, yet that is exactly what this bunch does every time someone outside of their sphere of influence and with new ideas tries to get a foothold in the party apparatus. Cry me a river.

[greenohio]

83. "You seem to think demonizing Dems is bad." I think this says it all.

Sounds like a winning track to me. Lets run with that. Who should we demonize next?...or are you waiting for your blog to tell you?

[greenohio]

49. Wasn't Kennedy a DLCer... he did cut taxes. Would they kill one of their

own?

[Cheswick2.0]

60. with the tax rate Kennedy inherited Karl Marx would have cut taxes

would he be DLC too?

[greenohio]

78. Karl Marx a DLCer. I never thought of that.

Ches, hey good to hear from you. We never talk anymore. You still encouraging people to join the DLC?

[itzamirakul]

54. Much as I despise the DLC

I still think it was Bush Sr. and his gang who pulled off the assassination.

Maybe some members of DLC were then Republicans and had a hand in it, though. How old was Al From at the time? I can't stand that Moore-bashing fat-head POS.

[Razorback_Democrat]

58. Only if you think Lyndon Johnson was DLC!

Personally I think he was the original neocon and would have been a Republican today. His social programs sounded good but even with Dem congresses they never quite hit the mark to make a "Great Society".

I think Johnson had Kennedy killed because he was about to be indicted for conspiracy to commit murder in Texas. That put a stop to it.

Read the book by Barr McClellan, not a perfect book, and has lots of holes, but an interesting theory (I can't remember the title, but it is about Johnson having Kennedy killed. He gives a GREAT history of Texas politics)

I also think the BFEE was involved in it as well as they were down in Texas and Oil and money were more important than party affiliation in Texas politics back then.

[WoodrowFan]

61. Is this supposed to be humor??? (NT)

[IrateCitizen]

62. Whatever happened to that "ignore thread" function??? (nt)

[CTLawGuy]

63. the DLC was founded in 1984

so NO.


but nice of you to implicitly insult people. that's what you're good at.

[greenohio]

82. Underground baby. Or they called themselves something

different like "Death to the Dem Party Club".

[CTLawGuy]

64. Hey Julien

Should Johnson have vetoed the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and kept the South in the Democratic column?

[UpsideDownFlag]

65. if they'd been around, i'm sure they'd have helped.

they probably woulda been diehard supporters of vietnam, just like they support the iraq war.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

67. This is the stupidest poll ever

:crazy:

[Forkboy]

73. Give him time,he'll find something even dumber

[greenohio]

85. What's stupid? The poll or the fact that people are voting that the DLC

killed Kennedy? Please share your expertise in this area here.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

88. They're reacting to the stupidity of the poll by giving it the

answer it deserves.

Ever heard the saying, "Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer"?

[Radical Activist]

68. Yes is winning. That's awesome!

Hillarious. :)

[Forkboy]

74. Voted yes just to be a wiseass

I suspect I wasn't the only one.

[Name removed]

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[Lexingtonian]

89. guilty of same

I'm tired of the obsessiveness. It's not like the DLC has meaningful support around here, so this is our small way of telling all the, uh, subgeniuses to stop attacking this here mere windmill that way.

[Kahuna]

94. Me too. And to give the uber lefties more fodder for their paranoia.

:evilgrin:

[Forkboy]

99. lol...gotta love DU polls

:D

[BlueFlu]

69. 45% of Americans consider themselves to be

a moderate. I worry that the DEMS could alienate them by going too far to the left, and hope and pray the GOP alientates them by continuing their tilt to the far right.

I know the more liberal supporters of the Democratic Party hate to hear it (and will probably flame me as a troll disrupter since I am fairly new here...), but the smallest block of voters (21%) are self-professed liberals. If the Democratic Party runs off the moderates, they are doomed to be a minority party.

No, I don't advocate going to the far right, just to the center enough to regain the majority!

[Bush was AWOL]

96. You're right, but most here don't realize it

[Zynx]

97. Most here believe in the myth of the liberal majority.

[patricia92243]

70. The Republicans got rid of BOTH Kennedys because they were afraid it was

going to be the beginning of a Kennedy "dynasty".

Now if it had been a Republican, it will be more than o.k. to have a dynasty - like say - Bush.

[demwing]

75. Since we don't have time travel

I'm inclined to say no.

But, since the future extends forward into enternity, and since given an eternal number of opportunities, we may actually break the time travel barrier! So I suppose the future DLCers could have come back and killed Kennedy. In fact, Ross Perot is kinda funny looking. I bet he's really a DLC Dem from the future, sent to help Clinton split the Repuke vote.

Yep.

Of course, if they were able to do that, then obviously they live in the distant future, a future where we all look like Ross Perot, a future where they would have a completely bitchen version of Photoshop, and the ability to fake any photo without risk of detection. If so, why haven't they faxed us some pics of W having sex with a puppy dog, no..TWO puppy dogs, on the Whitehouse lawn on Christmas eve?

With Pat Robertson filming it?

Hmmmm? Help us out a little? Just a little?

So much for my "theories."

[QC]

77. The DLC gave Wesley Clark their Top Secret Haitian Mantitty Formula! n/t

[PROGRESSIVE1]

90. No.

Fortunatly, the DLC was not around at that time. If they were, they would not have taken part in it but they would have nodded their head in approval of this henous act. Also, they would of opposed Civil Rights and Medicare.

[Forkboy]

91. Had to nominate this for the homepage

This is the best thread of the week by far.

[Zynx]

95. Johnson was more conservative than Kennedy?

Eh?

[wyldwolf]

101. yeah

[Up2Late]

98. NO, No, NO-- It was a, Mr George H.W. Bush of the CIA and...

I'm pretty sure V.P. Johnson "let it happen" and the Texas Republicans (and maybe the Texas Democrats, wasn't much difference back then) were in on it.

I'm even sure of where the 'Kill shot" came from too. It wasn't the Grassy knoll or the TSBD. :smoke:

Anyone who still had a question should see "The Men who Killed Kennedy" from The History Channel. That is the first EVER Honest, complete, "show everything and let you decide," presentation of the people, places, motives, geometry, EVERYTHING.

It's so good, they where forced to apologize (several months later) to the Johnson Family, for what was implied in the series