Getting labels correct: Is health care for all Americans moderate or lib?

[genius]

Poll question: Getting labels correct: Is health care for all Americans moderate or lib?

[parkenyc]

1. It should be moderate, but it is considered liberal.

Corporations receive bailouts from the government, but giving the people, whose tax dollars fund the corporate bailout, health insurance is viewed as socialist.

I think health care should be available to ALL.

[genius]

2. Only by those who don't want it.

They label things liberal as an excuse to avoid making them reality.

[parkenyc]

12. As a way to avoid paying for them.

People in Congress have excellent government provided healthcare. We the taxpayers who pay for that, do not have it for ourselves.

[KitchenWitch]

16. My thoughts exactly

Are you residing in my brain? LOL

[St. Jarvitude]

3. Why even bother with those labels?

Health care for all Americans is common sense. It's morally right. It's compassionate. It's caring. It's humane. It's the right thing to do.

It's not a matter of being liberal, moderate, or "conservative." If you don't support health care for all Americans, you are not a human being, and you can get the fuck off my planet.

[AntiCoup2K4]

4. Health care for all Americans is beyond labels,

It's simply common fucking sense.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. The Only Debate Is How We Get There....

I like the French system better than the Canadian system... Universal health care for all and if you want added services you have to pay for it.....

[Radical Activist]

25. Maybe if we define common sense as liberalism

people will stop voting for conservatives. It worked the other way around for Republicans.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

5. Moderates and liberals support healthcare for everyone. n/t

[MrUnderhill]

6. "Health Care"? Or "Government paid and managed health care"?

One is moderate... the other is liberal.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

10. Rather spend billions on healthcare than a foreign fiasco. n/t

[MrUnderhill]

19. Sure! Except health care is "Trillions"... not "Billions". n/t

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

21. Okay, then don't borrow trillions to privatize SS then either. n/t

[MrUnderhill]

26. OK by me! n/t

[sonicx]

24. US Gov spends more money per capita on health care than any nation

but everyone isn't covered.

[sonicx]

20. Every industrialized nation is liberal?

[MrUnderhill]

27. By US standards? You bet! n/t

[katinmn]

7. neither. It's a progressive issue

I think progressives should take it as OUR issue and run with it.

[prairierose]

9. I think it's a human issue...

we are the only industialized nation that does not have health care for all our citizens.

[Warpy]

11. Conservative

You'd think conservatives would want to conserve the health of the population of citizens, workers and voters, wouldn't you?

I guess they only want to conserve corporate profits and the lifestyles of the super wealthy.

[China_cat]

14. But if they don't pay attention to the health

of the workers that provide those corporate profits they won't last long. Between killing off the next generation of labor in wars of exapansionism and killing off those at home because they can't afford health care, how will the money machine continue to grind?

[SemperEadem]

32. no, they'll just outsource the work to countries which do have

government sponsored health care--the corporations dont' have to pay for health coverage and they don't have to pay the workers as much.

They could care less that the labor pool is drying up here.

[NuttyFluffers]

13. it, too, is sensible :)

i'm really digging this word. it encompasses all, crossing boundaries, while also isolating other opinions (because they are wrong :evilgrin:)

[Forkboy]

15. both

[Radical Activist]

17. It's basically a socialist idea

just like social security was first advanced by socialists.

[BernieBear]

18. Depends on how it's implemented

If it's a government sponsered program for everyone, a la Great Britian it's liberal.

If it's a choice of competitive plans with some sort of subsidy or credit based on income need, etc. then it's moderate.

BB

[sonicx]

22. other than the US and i think 1 or 2 nations, every industrialized nation

has universal health care. In Canada, i read that even the Conservative Party supports it (of course, if they were in power, that tune would change).

[Nederland]

29. Exactly

The response to universal health care depends entirely on the details of its implementation.

[ulysses]

30. agreed.

It's effectiveness does as well. :)

[Stinky The Clown]

23. I could not vote ..... no category for "The Right Thing to Do"

Why must something so fundamentally correct in a nation such as ours - to say nothing of the entire planet - have a label?

There is not one person on the entire planet who isn't simply **entitled** to health care. Who among us shall be the first to be turned away?

We can argue the "how". We can politicize the "how". But no human being can ever argue the "what" without being inhuman. Its that simple.

Maybe a restating of the poll question is order.

[blondeatlast]

28. Very business friendly across the board, so moderate.

It would save businesses of all sizes from the expense of providing health insurance benefits completely.

[SemperEadem]

31. It's truly the most 'pro-life' one can be

pro life and pro-quality-of-life.

In order to enjoy one's constitutional right to 'pursuit of happiness', one needs to be healthy.

ergo...

Denying healthcare to all Americans is unconstitutional.