go ahead, tell me we don't torture people

[donsu]

http://www.counterpunch.com/allard12182004.html

Locked Up Naked in a Hole Within a Hole
Alarcon: "The Cuban 5 Have Been the Victims of Torture by the US"


"When he saw Gerardo, he was naked, locked up in what they called the 'box,' that is to say a 'hole' within the 'hole', with no clothes and with absolutely no contact with the outside world. When they took him out, they removed all the other prisoners who were in the "hole" because he was not allowed to be seen, or hear another human voice or see another human being," explained Ricardo Alarcon, recalling how New York lawyer Leonard Weinglass had described his first encounter with Gerardo Hernandez, one of five cubans imprisoned in the United States since their arrest in 1998 on charges of "spying".

-snip-

Rene Gonzalez, Gerardo Hernandez, Antonio Guerrero, Ramon LabaÒino and Fernando Gonzalez, were arrested on September 12, 1998 in Miami and taken that very same day to the city's Federal Detention Center (FDC) where they were immediately incarcerated in punishment cells, without being able to contact anyone for 17 days. On September 29, they were moved to the special holding unit, a solitary confinement cell known as the "hole" where they remained until February 3, 2000: 17 months of a treatment usually reserved for prisoners responsible for serious disciplinary problems or murders carried out within the prison itself.

-snip-

During the procedures that were rigged by the FBI and the District Attorney's Office, the Five were once again locked up in the "hole", where they remained for 48 days. When they were finally returned to normal cells, unnecessarily cruel sanctions were maintained, such as deprivation of personal belongings, including photos of their relatives.

-snip-

With the cruelty of this situation, deliberately isolated in five different prisons spread throughout the immense U.S. territory, the Five are also suffering from the fact that they are serving their sentences in a foreign country, "which is an additional suffering" and in the case of those serving life sentences, living in exceptionally harsh conditions," concluded Alarcon, adding that no information have been received on Gerardo Herandez since more than six weeks.

The Victorville prison in the state of California where he is imprisoned, is subjected to a "lock down" due to disturbances amongst the prison population. Under this regime inmates are confined to their cells, with no hot meals, no visits or even telephone calls.
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the bloody hands do whatever they want

watching america change

[cali]

1. Disgusting.

But I don't think there are too many people here who are going to tell you that the U.S doesn't torture people.

[mairceridwen]

2. we don't torture people

we torture savage animals, not worthy of the title "people"


there's your daily dose of freeper logic


I am so ashamed of this country. So deeply ashamed.



When can we start torturing the freeple? the sheeple?


This is torturing me...it's not the "same" but it's wrecking damage to my nerves.

[VioletLake]

10. My apologies for the off-topic comment.

Interesting user name/semordnilap.

:hi:

[mairceridwen]

11. huh?

I'm confused?

semordnilap?

My user name is two welsh names, Mair Ceridwen.

[mitchtv]

3. vigorous interrogation

its not torture. Ask Alberto Gonzalez

[OnlyInAmerica]

9. Or you could call it

"Proactive inquiry"

[genius]

4. Gonzales says torture and breaking ratified treaties and laws is OK

And he's up for attorney general. American citizens are proudly going to allow themselves to be tortured as a filibuster would be uncivilized.

[prole_for_peace]

5. Its not torture, it is just "discomfort".

But when something like this happens to some Americans (or white people) the *istas will be screaming "TORTURE!!!" and talking about the Geneva Convention until they explode (hopefully)

[CatholicEdHead]

7. No, Fraternity pranks

is another term for it.

[VOX]

6. We do not torture; we merely place prisoners in "stress positions"

I believe that was one of the official euphemisms used earlier this year.

The good old USA, shining beacon of liberty and justice for, well, just about everybody.

[Zhade]

8. But according to Rush (and a few "Dems" here), CP is not credible!

So we obviously DON'T torture people, silly!

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