What are the odds of NOTHING going our way?

[goclark]

Let's just take it from Nov. 2nd

Exit Polls went to Kerry - Bush "wins"

Iraq war still rages on - Bush "wins"

Valerie Plame case not settled - Bush "wins"
and Novak "wins"

O Liely and Rush still out of their jail cells - Bush "wins"

Ballots and Suppression like crazy - Media and Bush "win"

Kerry puts his little toe in the Let's Count All The Votes water and Pulls The Toe out real quick - Bush "Wins"

Time magazine had the nerve to declare Bush its Person 0f the Year - Bush "wins"

What are the odds and what did I forget to include?

There MUST be a silver lining coming up for us real soon!
Let's keep pushing for justice!

[Stevendsmith]

1. The hope for a silver lining is what keeps me going

But the wait has been agony. BushCo is Teflon.

[goclark]

4. Me too I keep wishing on a star

Trying to inform everyone I know about FRAUD

Trying hard to never feel defeated.

Quoting Churchill: Never, never quit

Quoting MLK: "I Have a Dream" and when I wake up every morning...

[Demit]

2. "There must be a silver lining"--we sure are due. We're OVERdue.

[gottaB]

3. It's not like flipping a quarter

The Republicans have advantages. Sustained, concerted effort will be required to defeat them. We are all Winter Soldiers now.

[shraby]

5. Here's one...ACLU says Bush ordered torture.

according to email obtained through Freedom of Information Act.

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[goclark]

7. I was thrilled to read the ACLU issue today

But, it should be all over the news and all I see is Robert Blake and his little Rosie.


I have seen Rusfeld quickly scrolled but that is it.
They put Georgie Boy in for the entire fake press conference to give Rummy a stamp of approval.

When will we get a brake with a follow through?
:hurts:

[gottaB]

8. Yeah, I caught that

It's been my understanding for quite some time that Bush authorized the torture of detainees. I'm glad the ACLU is on this, but I don't see the political gain.

Watch the Gonzales hearings. If we turn just one Republican Senator, I will be heartened. But at this point I don't see the Dems organizing to get votes against confirming Gonzales. Leahy will ask some tough questions. There will be a few speeches. Gonzales will be confirmed. Next stop 2006, and I am not greatly optimistic that the Dems will organize against Bush's torture policies much less turn it into a winning issue.

I see a long hard fight.

[goclark]

13. Democrats are fighters..

We have fought civil rights battles.

We have battled for pro choice.

We have battled to see the end of the Viet Nam war.

We fought a glorious fight for John Kerry in '04.
We knew going in how they had stolen the election in '00 and we still fought like hell to register untold thousands of new voters.

We must not give up the battle.
I know that we can not give up but unless we grab tight to an issue and take to the streets to protest, we will not be heard.

Bush had the bold face nerve to make sure the protesters could not use the streets on January 20th in DC.

Where are we on that total injustice!

[zann725]

31. I was just gonna bring that up. This ACLU thing is big.

In order to really get Bush out of office, we need to think like Repug's. I know it's disgusting, but...we need some really repugnant proof of his 'moral values.' The ACLU docs shows that Bush was DIRECTLY aware of and approved Torture.

Also there was another thread here about docs proving that CIA types in Gittmo pretended to be FBI interrogating prisoners...thereby shifting the blame.

These scandals, plus whatever we can get on Kerik and/or anyone with Bushco who was involved with 9/11...prior TO would be a help.

Things are starting to break in the media...not as much as we'd like, but still... We're just being critical. We've accomplished a lot in a short time.

An oh, about Kerry NOT speaking out recently...I read in one of these threads (dated today I think) that Kerry brought up BCCI again...and money laundering still going on there...and how it should be checked on. By bringing it back into the spotlight, it was a red-flag he's starting the charge back in. I could be hallucinating, but...when he goes at BCCI, he goes at Bushco and OTHER evidence of their Fraud.

[Stew225]

6. They've got the media and that is major

power! Propraganda should be trademarked by them.

[Stinky The Clown]

9. I'm an eternal optimist

But I'm beginning to lose hope.

We are so totally out of power, its truly amazing. Our only national power is the filibuster and even that is under threat.

Our state to state position is a little better, and there's where our best hope seems to lie.

Winning some Sec of State slots should be our very highest priority.

[KarenS]

10. I think the odds of NOTHING going our way are very high.

I have been outraged since the 2000 "election" and finally calmed myself down with "it's only 4 years ~ how bad can it really get and how much damage can they actually do??" *sigh*

Well,,,, I guess they showed me !!!

This group consists of Master Predators and this country is/was not ready to deal with them or even see them for what they are,,,,


I will never get over this.

[driver8]

28. Karen S, I am starting to feel the same way...

I was starting to think that maybe the tide was turning for "the good guys" for once, but Bush keeps winning. No matter what fucked up thing he says, or what unbelievably stupid thing he does, he comes out smelling like a rose.

Nothing sticks to this guy...nothing.

I thought that maybe election fraud would finally get him, but I am slowly losing hope on that as well. I have always believed in "karma"...what goes around comes around. If this is true, Shrub and the boys have quite a "day of reckoning" waiting for them.

[Mend]

11. Notice what is happening to big pharma recently

The biggest drug companies, who also happen to be among the biggest repuke supporters, are in deep shit. It is a little sliver of karma. Hoping for more to follow, as bad things happen to bad people.

[goclark]

14. Tomorrrow is only a day away

When I look at the commercials on TV I've noticed that 95% of the ads are about pharma products.

It can make you depressed before turning on the light.
They are so slick, making you think that everything will be rosy is you just take Previcid.

Yes, I am thrilled to see them taking the heat but watch, Bush will protect them with write offs.

It is a sliver of hope that they will catch these crooks that prey on our health.

[mslux]

12. Hope is believing in spite of the evidence,

the watching the evidence change. - Jim Wallis

Daily we watch the evidence change. Be hopeful.

[countryjake]

15. Things don't look good...

and you forgot to include that Babs picked Karl Rove as the most interesting person of 2004!


But people are the motive force in the making of world history; I firmly believe that & once people become wretched enough, nothing will be able to keep us down!

[LynnTheDem]

16. US MAJORITY DISAPPROVE of bush...and he ain't even coronated yet.

Just WAIT until he is coronated with $millions, while our uniformed men, women & kids continue to die in Iraq...just WAIT until the American public starts getting a real good look at the damaged troops living in poverty in their cars...just WAIT until bush starts in on destroying everything the MAJORITY of Americans don't want destroyed.

And that imminent DRAFT the military spokesman mentioned this weekend, most Americans aren't gonna like that at all. Too bad they didn't listen when K&E warned them.

And ALL of it will be 100% the fault of bush and the rightwingnuts. :)

[goclark]

17. I have my glue ready

Let's hope like hell we can make something stick!

I want a vacation in the Hague, a ringside seat to the trial.
I would be on that plane in a heartbeat.

[Redleg]

22. I am glad to see other people are using "Coronation."

I love it!

[bermudat]

18. It's good someone is optimistic about bush getting his.

I just don't see it. Deaths of American servicemen, falling dollar, outsourcing of jobs, 45 million Americans without health insurance and bushler is made Man of the Year. Bush has the media, big business, and falling IQ's on his side. Prepare yourself for Jeb in 2008, because the democrats don't have a clue how to stop the repugnantcan juggernaut. If bush goes down, it will be repugnantcans who do it. Democrats will be standing around talking about how they like bush as a person.

[goclark]

19. Hope Is On The Way!

Maybe Santa Claus will bring us some good news.

Oops, he is weating a RED suit. : )

[stuartmill]

20. There MUST be a silver lining

Bull,dammit i'm sick of this,washington state is still fighting,fight,screw rove,i'm sick of this.

[Redleg]

21. I thrive on adversity. I love complaining and being able to call Bush a

"fascist fuck." I love being the underdog and being bitter about shit. I am a sick man. I think my liver is diseased.

[lojasmo]

23. 100% It already happened.

Iraq war will go for years

Plame "scandal" is almost 2 years old (IIRC)

O'liely, rush, check

Voter disenfranchisement- non issue

Kerry's gone, as I knew he would be

Bush person of the year- check.

Done and Done.

[goclark]

24. We must keep chipping away

One of these days someone has got to whistleblow on this clowns.

There are now too many that know too much.
Some canary has got to sing pretty soon.

[bermudat]

25. What we need is a 'Pentagon Papers' on the BFEE.

Unfortunately, the rightwing media would bury it under whatever pregnant woman who was killed that month.

[goclark]

26. Yep,the Media should be put in jail

every last one of them...
well. not KO and Jon Stewart, they are brave

[blackangrydem]

27. To add insult to injury, O'Liely's ratings are as high as ever

Fox's too. Unbelievable.

No wonder we lost, look what we're dealing with.

[goclark]

29. I can't believe that there

are that many dumb people in the world.

How can they continue to believe this fool when he has no "moral values?"

One thing about Republicans, they don't bash their own in public.
That is a lesson that we have not learned.

[blackangrydem]

30. Maybe things are changing, Rumsfeld sure is getting it from

some GOPers.

[goclark]

36. Rumfeld has earned a vacation in jail

It can't come soon enough for me.

I am hoping that this is the beginning of the Repubs trying to take their party back from the neocons.

What do you think?

[blackangrydem]

40. Could be, we probably won't know which direction they are going

until the outcome of the '06 elections.

[Skittles]

32. we will lose as long as we are tolerating a rigged game

it's that simple

[El Biggo Doggo]

33. We need to spend our time stomping out possible voting fraud

there have been too many coincidences lately. I think it'd be great if each of us would consider volunteering for local election boards.

[goclark]

37. We must get into leadership positions!

[KarenS]

34. Skittles ~ I agree with you 100%

There is one huge single issue here ~ Election Fraud ~ if it is not solved, then there is nothing else.

[Silverhair]

35. A bad run can last a hell of a long time.

I play poker for a living. Although hands are random, it is the nature of probability to create clumps or streaks. Good hands tend to come in clusters and so do bad hands. (Note for the math majors - I am extremely oversimplifying and I am aware of it.) When you are catching a streak of bad hands we call that: a bad run. Believe me, it can seem like it goes on forever.

We have definitely been running bad.

Some of that stuff is predicable however. When the Rush story broke, I predicted then that he would never serve a day. I also predicted that the Palme story would fade away with no results.

What do you do? YOU KEEP PLAYING!! That right. In poker you keep on playing because you know that a streak of bad "luck" (Poker professionals don't believe in luck.) can't last forever. You just use you poker skills to minimize your losses, secure in the knowledge that sooner or later, the card will run you way, and then you use your skills to maximize your wins.

That means that you fold losing hands, not back them to the hilt on principle.

[goclark]

38. Excellent take on it Silverhand!

You need to know when to hold and when to fold.
My father taught me that a long time ago.

[cry baby]

39. Gregoire won the governorship in Wash. That's good news!

Baby steps!