How do we respond if * cuts and runs from Iraq?

[DireStrike]

We really can't say he should have stayed there. We'd be forced to agree with him.

There are some who will argue that we SHOULD stay until the mess is cleaned up - but that's never gonna happen.

How do we gain leverage if and when we get out?

[Mistress Quickly]

1. What makes you think he's gonna cut-n-run?

We'll have to wait until 2009 when a new president is in office.

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[bush_is_wacko]

3. No need, the ensuing disaster will speak loud and clear...

I guess the only statement we need to make is "We told you so."

There really is no successful solution to this crisis. Staying will not stabilize the situation any more than leaving will. The moment we stepped foot in that country w/ guns blazing we screwed ourselves!

[rkc3]

8. There needs to be someone out there pounding the drum as to why

this whole process is a catastrohic success.

We bombed the hell out of several major sities on the way to ousting Hussein and we secured the oil fields.

Little or no attempt was made to secure the borders - foreign insurgents are now indiscriminately killing our soldiers and Iraqi civilians.

Little or no attempt was made to secure ammo dumps - the same insurgents are now using these explosives to kill our soldiers and Iraqi civilians.

Rumsfeld paid no attention to his generals regarding the number of troops required to secure Iraq.

This is a short list. I'm sure there's someone out there who's paid more attention than I have who make this more complete. But the point is that we need to beat this into the mind's of every one in this country.

[bush_is_wacko]

13. Believe me

It's already in the minds of those that will EVER care. The rest, I personally don't give a rats behind about. As far as I'm concerned the mentality of those people will haunt them in death the same way it haunts the rest of us in life!

[mrgorth]

16. Agreed.

[bluestateguy]

4. I like the "we told you so" option

I like the idea of rubbing it in people's faces that the war was a total failure. Make people embarassed and ashamed that they supported this.

[GOPBasher]

5. We could say, "Told you so!"

[More Than A Feeling]

6. We could start by cheering

1. Those of us who favor leaving immediately will be happy that our soldier's lives have been spared.

2. The president will have alienated his base, big time. They will think that he is wimping out.

This is an instance where we should not interrupt our opponent while he is getting himself in trouble.

[KarenS]

7. I would be happy if he did this,,,,, at the same time, I be yelling

"flip-flop"

I know, I know,,,, if he's hanging himself we should just be quiet and let him, but I am not always quiet when I should be :)

[quinnox]

9. Bush will stay until bitter end

this war will end up being his Waterloo, and happily, he will take the Republicans down with him.

[Davis_X_Machina]

10. If Bush does come to his senses...

....and bails, it will be 'statesmanlike' and 'realistic' and 'showing a mature flexibility'.

The press has already breathed deeply of Mr. Bush's excrement, and decided it smells like roses.

Why would they change now?

[gennifer6]

11. It can't happen, if we lose in Iraq we lose the war on Terror

Obviously we all know Iraq had nothing to do with the War on Terror to begin with, but our actions there have now made Iraq part of the war on terror....Caligula won't even think about it.

[Davis_X_Machina]

12. Having already declared Up to be Down...

...and War to be Peace, there is little difficulty, beyond the purely techincal, in declaring Defeat to be Victory.

With a compliant press, Wall Street, and the Infant Jesus all on his side, he can do anything he wants.

[gennifer6]

17. The repercussions from most of America and the world would

be too much to bear for Caligula's legacy. He'd be the second President to resign. If we backed out there I believe the consequences for him and the country are severe. We'll see him on trial at the Hague. I'm all for it, but I don't think Caligula is.

[napi21]

14. Easy! "You finally admit you screwed up by going into Iraq"

It took several years, but sure glad you finally decided to be honest and admit your mistakes!

The people who think we should have stayed will hate him for pulling out, and the people who think he should have pulled out already hate him becuase they don't think we should have gone in at all.

[JohnnyRingo]

15. If Buxh pulls out of Iraq somebody better check Fort Knox

I'm sure it'll be empty.

"Plenty of money to be made...
supplyin' the army with the tools of the trade"

-Country Joe

[VolcanoJen]

18. That will never happen. Bush is operating an Imperial Presidency...

... and the first rule of running an Imperial Government is to never admit failure, and in fact to prop up those who have failed most dramatically.

For further evidence, see Bush awarding the Presidential Medal of Freedom to George Tenet, Paul Bremer and Tommy Franks, and his continuing support of Donald Rumsfeld.

[Ufour20]

19. Never leaving...

We aren't leaving Iraq, and that's been the plan since the beginning.

http://www.jihadunspun.com/articles/26102003-rational.american.hegemony/JUSRAH.htm

If anything, things will get worse, not better.

[saracat]

20. Paint him as the coward he tried to make Kerry!

Whats good for the goose. Stress "unfinished business" Remeber,even Kerry said he would stabilize the region first! But he isn't gonna do it. He isn't up for relection and I doubt he cares about the fate of anyone other than himself!

[Dinger]

21. Impeachment comes To Mind

If he would cut & run, we could say it is simply too late, and that other measures need to be taken.

[RaleighNCDUer]

22. Take it as an admission that he fucked up, and start impeachment

proceedings.

If he doesn't cut and run, take it as a refusal to acknowledge that he fucked up, and start impeachment proceedings.

Either way, we get him.