Can this be for real?

[saskatoon]

http://www.rense.com/general42/werq.htm

The neoconservative blueprint for U.S. military domination is hardly a secret. A group called the Project for a New American Century--a think tank founded by hawks who now hold prominent jobs in the White House--released a version of it three years ago. The document is shocking in its candor: It asserts that the United States should be moving unilaterally to assert military control around the globe, and that all that's necessary to jump-start the effort is a "new Pearl Harbor."

[BlueEyedSon]

1. LOL... of course it is, where do you think our reality came from?

http://www.newamericancentury.org/
http://pnac.info/

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. oh yeah

this website has been around-and discussed-for several years now. Sort of reminds me of "Mein Kampf" in that the plans for the world are detailed-and nothing has been able to be done about it.

[purduejake]

3. Thanks for the post

I wouldn't be surprised if they did order the 9/11 attacks, but I'm not convinced yet. I have no reason to think they were above it, though.

[pretzel4gore]

11. the way it happened, the undeniable complicity of the corporate media

taking the day sept 11/01 all alone, all the odditys can be explained as happenstance, but...as mike ruppert says in recent issue of 'global outlook' magazine, the fact that war game exercises including hijacking of civilian jets and crashing them into buildings in new york washington etc have never been thoroughly looked at by congress says the 'execrcises' might be the holy grail of 9/11...check out 'tripod 11' or 'vigilant guardian' 'northern vigilance' and 'vigilant warrior' which were the names of the 4 exercises that were ongoing the morning of sept11th, and reduced the ability of the system to react to real emergency to only 8 aircraft! yet the newsmedia has barely mentioned these operations, which tied up the whole security apparatus at a critical time: dick cheney was onscene and in charge at the time the 1st jet was 'hijacked'

[eaprez]

4. Its called Empire Building....you must view

Hijacking Catastrophe
9/11, Fear, and the Selling of American Empire

which you can view at http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6895.htm

it will blow your socks off!

[mrdmk]

5. Sorry to see this, this actually started in 1991 and was shot down

in the media. Mr. Bush Sr. described as ludicrous and denounced its intentions. The original document was written by Dr. Paul Wolfowitz. This document was sleeved and re-written 1995 with the following signatories:

Roger Barnett
U.S. Naval War College

Alvin Bernstein
National Defense University

Stephen Cambone
National Defense University

Eliot Cohen
Nitze School of Advanced International
Studies, Johns Hopkins University

Devon Gaffney Cross
Donors' Forum for International Affairs

Thomas Donnelly
Project for the New American Century

David Epstein
Office of Secretary of Defense,
Net Assessment

David Fautua
Lt. Col., U.S. Army

Dan Goure
Center for Strategic and International Studies

Donald Kagan
Yale University

Fred Kagan
U. S. Military Academy at West Point

Robert Kagan
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

Robert Killebrew
Col., USA (Ret.)

William Kristol
The Weekly Standard

Mark Lagon
Senate Foreign Relations Committee

James Lasswell
GAMA Corporation

I. Lewis Libby
Dechert Price & Rhoads

Robert Martinage
Center for Strategic and Budgetary
Assessment

Phil Meilinger
U.S. Naval War College

Mackubin Owens
U.S. Naval War College

Steve Rosen
Harvard University

Gary Schmitt
Project for the New American Century

Abram Shulsky
The RAND Corporation

Michael Vickers
Center for Strategic and Budgetary
Assessment

Barry Watts
Northrop Grumman Corporation

Paul Wolfowitz
Nitze School of Advanced International
Studies, Johns Hopkins University

Dov Zakheim
System Planning Corporation



Now the group consist of the following:

Elliott Abrams
Gary Bauer
William J. Bennett
Jeb Bush
Dick Cheney
Eliot A. Cohen
Midge Decter
Paula Dobriansky
Steve Forbes
Aaron Friedberg
Francis Fukuyama
Frank Gaffney
Fred C. Ikle
Donald Kagan
Zalmay Khalilzad
I. Lewis Libby
Norman Podhoretz
Dan Quayle
Peter W. Rodman
Stephen P. Rosen
Henry S. Rowen
Donald Rumsfeld
Vin Weber
George Weigel
Paul Wolfowitz

Many of these people you will recognize!

[Capn Sunshine]

7. Funny , you left Will Marshall, NDOL, off the list of signatories

just an oversight, I'm sure

[mrdmk]

9. I know you are correct, but his name does not appear on the site

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

http://www.newamericancentury.org/aboutpnac.htm

[charlie]

12. He's here

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraq-20030319.htm

He also had a seat on the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, a PNAC offshoot.

[mrdmk]

14. There is a list that I missed, thank you!

Ronald Asmus
Max Boot
Frank Carlucci
Eliot Cohen
Ivo H. Daalder
Thomas Donnelly
Peter Galbraith
Jeffrey Gedmin
Robert S. Gelbard
Reuel Marc Gerecht
Charles Hill
Martin S. Indyk
Bruce P. Jackson
Robert Kagan
Craig Kennedy
William Kristol
Tod Lindberg
Will Marshall
Joshua Muravchik
Danielle Pletka
Dennis Ross
Randy Scheunemann.
Gary Schmitt
Walter Slocombe
James B. Steinberg
R. James Woolsey

There are a few repeats, later there will be quiz so study closely!

[AntiCoup2K4]

15. And here's the latest list of traitors from PNAC's most recent letter...

Urban Ahlin Madeleine K. Albright Giuliano Amato

Uzi Arad Timothy Garton Ash Anders Aslund

Ronald D. Asmus Rafael L. Bardaji Wladyslaw Bartoszewski

Arnold Beichman Jeff Bergner Joseph R. Biden

Carl Bildt Max Boot Ellen Bork

Pascal Bruckner Mark Brzezinski Reinhard Buetikofer

Janusz Bugajski Michael Butler Martin Butora

Daniele Capezzone Per Carlsen Gunilla Carlsson

Ivo Daalder Massimo D'Alema Pavol Demes

Larry Diamond Peter Dimitrov Thomas Donnelly

Nicholas Eberstadt Uffe Elleman-Jensen Helga Flores Trejo

Francis Fukuyama Jeffrey Gedmin Bronislaw Geremek

Carl Gershmann Marc Ginsberg Andre Glucksmann

Phil Gordon Karl-Theodor von und zu Guttenberg

Istvan Gyarmati Pierre Hassner Vaclav Havel

Richard C. Holbrooke Toomas Ilves Bruce Jackson

Donald Kagan Robert Kagan Craig Kennedy

Penn Kemble Glenys Kinnock Bernard Kouchner

Jerzy Kozminski Ivan Krastev William Kristol

Girts Valdis Kristovskis Ludger Kuehnhardt Mart Laar

Vytautas Landsbergis Stephen Larrabee

Mark Leonard Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger

Tod Lindberg Tom Malinowski

Will Marshall Margarita Mathiopoulos

Clifford May John McCain Michael McFaul

Matteo Mecacci Mark Medish Thomas O. Melia

Sarah E. Mendelson Michael Mertes Ilir Meta

Adam Michnik Richard Morningstar Joshua Muravchik

Klaus Naumann Dietmar Nietan James O'Brien

Janusz Onyszkiewicz Cem Ozdemir Can Paker

Mark Palmer Martin Peretz Friedbert Pflueger

Danielle Pletka Florentino Portero Samantha Ravich

Janusz Reiter Alex Rondos Jim Rosapepe

Jacques Rupnik Eberhard Sandschneider

Randy Scheunemann Christian Schmidt

Gary Schmitt Simon Serfaty Stephen Sestanovich

Radek Sikorski Stefano Silvestri Martin Simecka

Gary Smith Abraham Sofaer James Steinberg

Gary Titley Ivan Vejvoda Sasha Vondra

Celeste Wallander Ruth Wedgood Richard Weitz

Kenneth Weinstein Jennifer Windsor R. James Woolsey

[FightinNewDem]

18. The Vast Neocon Conspiracy...

...isn't always what you expect!

Ivo Daalder: John Kerry ($500); also a foreign policy advisor to the Dean campaign

Larry Diamond: John Kerry ($2,000), DNC ($250), John Edwards ($500)

Mark Brzezinski: Kerry ($1,000), Lieberman ($500), Environment2004 ($500)

Tom Malinowski: Kerry ($500)

Kenneth Weinstein: Kerry ($1500)

Sarah Mendelson: Kerry ($300)

Mark Medish: Dean ($250), Kerry ($1000), DNC ($250)

Richard Morningstar: several matches for this name, but all gave to Democrats

Jim Rosapepe: Kerry ($2500), Edwards ($1000), Clark ($1000), Dean ($500); also gave to Landrieu, Daschle, Mikulski, Mongiardo, Van Hollen

Phillip Gordon: Kerry ($250)

[w4rma]

6. Yup. Folks thought Hitler's "Mein Kampf" was BS, too, until he got enough

power to go through with it.

[in_cog_ni_to]

8. Sadly, it's for real.

We are living it. Their agenda has been executed right on track (that includes 911). It will only get worse if we don't get them out of the WH and in prison. They deserve nothing LESS than prison terms. They have destroyed this country. :grr:

[ally_sc]

10. yep..bill kristol, paul wolfewicz, and company

rense can be heard on the genesis communications network. i forget the name of his show. i like alex jones and listen to him quite a bit when i have time.

[Stinky The Clown]

13. Notice that the signatories inlcude only two military and those are

both col or lt col. Probably two old passed over guys, bitter and ready to audition to play the roll of the wacky grandfather in Soap.

[proudbluestater]

16. I heard last week, they are an arm of the American Enterprise Institute

Not sure how big the building is they are housed in, but PNAC occupies a single floor. Amazing that a single floor in a building somewhere can change the direction of the entire world, at will. Spooky stuff.

Jeb Bush is a founding member of PNAC, so no hope of things ever getting better in this world.

[yodermon]

17. And the most vile, racist, genocidal,

but believeable quote from their "manifesto" follows:

"...And advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool."


Our deputy secretary of defense mr Wolfowitz is a signatory to this satanic statment. :mad:

See http://cryptome.org/rad.htm for the text version.

[Karenina]

19. Kick!

:kick:

[zann725]

20. Speaking of "Pearl Harbor"...wasn't the Affleck movie "Pearl Harbor"...

released just a month or two BEFORE 9/11? As I recall, when I saw the trailer for it, I remember thinking, 'oh god...this is a promo of things to come!' Then it did. Wasn't the timing of that release shortly before 9/11?