"Many Bush aides believe Clinton was too quick to head for the cameras"

[MikeG]

OK Asshole WP reporters, WHICH aides?

Fuck you and fuck your blind quotes.

That is all.

[Sannum]

1. They said it.

"Actions speak louder than words."

They are right. Bush's actions during this tragedy really do speak for themselves.

I am ready for a real president.

[proud patriot]

2. I think Clinton was very patient in waiting for bush to lead

bush failed, and since Clinton actually cares about
Human Beings suffering had to do something.

I so wonder how bush sleeps . I imagine it is
quite restless .

[madinmaryland]

12. Uhh, I think Bush was waiting for Clinton to lead,

just as he did on 9/11. Who was the first into the NYC. Clinton even flew back from Australia and was in NYC before Bush was.

[Canadian Socialist]

44. I thought

Bush* needed his own pillow to sleep at night. Or is that an urban legend?

[itzamirakul]

64. No way is he restless...

he has no soul. He cares nothing about anyone outside of his own small circle. He does really take after that drag queen look-alike mother of his.

[What Is This Crap]

3. A

thats because clinton had a soul. he actually cared. bush is busy chopping trees and drinking beer and choking on pretzels to do anything

[txaslftist]

51. welcome to DU

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[madinmaryland]

13. If Kerry is

"Live Shot" does that make bush "missed shot"?

[Dr Fate]

28. Bush takes his shots from a glass.

And he never misses those- unless he passes out on the carpet from "pretzels."

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[wicket]

30. I live in Boston

And the only people I've ever heard refer to him as that is the right-wing media, like the Boston Herald. :shrug:

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[wicket]

37. who is "they"?

[Dr Fate]

42. "They" = "Biased Liberal Media", who else???

If the Biased Liberal Media sezzit, it must be true.

Yup- "everyone" calls Kerry "Live Shot" up there in Mass...

[wicket]

52. Muahahahahaha!

:D

[Kathy in Cambridge]

54. I'm from Boston and I never heard that. Where did you get that info?

or should I even ask? :eyes:

I have lived in Boston my whole life, my cousin was an editor at the Boston Globe, and the NEVER called him "Live Shot".

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

55. Search by Author is one of the best features of DU.

[LynnTheDem]

61. Exactly.

A search by author can explain so much.

[Zenlitened]

57. Never heard that.

Worked in Boston broadcast news for nearly 15 years, but... never heard that.

:shrug:

[wicket]

63. TOMBSTONED!

:nuke:

[gratuitous]

5. Horrific natural catastrophe?

The Bush administration spends three days completely paralyzed by events, then emerges to boldly blame Clinton. It happened on September 11, and again this week.

You may quote me, Washington Post. That is, if you can remove your lips from Stupidhead's sphincter long enough to do what used to be your job.

[musette_sf]

6. Uh, no, you effin' humps

I didn't read anything about Clinton till TODAY... so if it took * (or his handlers) too long to revive him from his Presley-like bacchanals to say a damn thing YESTERDAY... well, tuff shit!

[mattclearing]

7. Amen. Want me to yell at them on my way home?

It's on my way. ;)

Really though, only the Bushies could take a catastrophe of this magnitude, probably the worst single day disaster since Nagasaki and turn it into a swipe at Bill Clinton.

What a bunch of fucking scumbags.

[fob]

14. Yes.

And I half expected them to come out and say "What's the big deal?, 50 or 60,000 dead, hell bush* has killed that many in ONE country alone for NO GODDAMNED REASON. Call us when the death toll reaches 250,000."

I could also see the bush*bots sucking that shit up like crack.


/madness

[buddysmellgood]

8. The message is, having the leader of the free world accessible and in

front of the people is bad. Hiding and acting aloof, keeping everything secret and sneering at those who ask questions is good.

[BlueEyedSon]

9. And out of classrooms.

:puke:

[mattclearing]

11. Ouch.

:)

[madrchsod]

10. bush doesn`t give a shit.

he could care less that this happened. it doesn`t effect him personally so it doesn`t matter. clinton was asked the questions and responded because he has the respect of the peoples of the world and they remember what he accomplished in the international community. they know how bush feels about the world.

[The Backlash Cometh]

15. They keep coming up with creative ways to explain away Bush's

incompetence, don't they?

[Kota]

16. They can't admit they were wrong, but they can blame in Clinton.

[xkenx]

17. Aw,

Boo-fuckin'-hoo.

Anything to pick on Bill Clinton. Bush reminds me of the Wizard of Oz, only he is all main characters wrapped into one---no brain, no heart, chicken hawk.

[DavidDvorkin]

18. Many Bush aides are sick fucks.

As are Bush and his puppet masters.

[annerevere]

19. The Bush mantra

When the heat is on, blame Clinton.

[BrklynLiberal]

20. Have they come up with a way to blame the tsunami on Clinton yet?

[Trajan]

21. WTF does Clinton have to do with this ? ..

Sheesh ... MORE misdirection ... MORE 'Coarse non sequiturs' ....

What idiots ....

[Dr Fate]

43. No, we are the idiots.

How are Republicans "idiots" for mastering propaganda?

We Democrats are apparently the idiots for not being able to effectivley counter-act it.

[Trajan]

60. Too cynical ....

Can't live within a cynical skin ...

[Dr Fate]

69. I see- so recognizing the truth is now "cynical"

Tell me exactly how I am incorrect before you label my sentiment.

You say the Republicans are "idiots" for being effective. I say we are the apparent "idiots" for not being effective.

Prove me wrong- show me a statement from a top Democrat that counteracts this propaganda-show me a statement form a top Democrat challenging the media for allowing this propaganda to go unchecked. You cant do it. So who are the "idiots?"

Recognizing our weaknesses is not "cynical"- its merely observant. We need to stop being the victims and start kicking some ass. If that is cynical, then so be it.

[sakabatou]

22. I'm sorry

but what is the context of the quote?

[Trajan]

24. The usual context ....

Reporters toungue-lapping around the sphincters of the GOP liars whilst sticking voodoo pins into a former president ...

[sakabatou]

27. So they said that Clinton would go to the cameras

too quick to make an apology to the nations that were hit? Or is that wrong?

[Dr Fate]

31. The implication is that Clinton did everything for political reasons...

...and that Bush is "above" that type of behavior.

This is supposed to be the GOP/media excuse for Bushs apparent lack of being able to deliver some meaningful, healing words-like most real Presidents have been able to do.

They always bring up Clinton AKA Emanuel Goldstein when they need to deflect from their screw-ups. He's been out of office for how long now?

[sakabatou]

39. Thanks for clearing tha tup.

:yourock:

[zbird]

38. Here is the context.

snip...

Former President Bill Clinton also grabbed the spotlight in Europe with a BBC interview in which called for a coordinated relief effort.

"It is really important that somebody takes the lead in this," he told the BBC's Today program.

Clinton's remarks caused displeasure at the White House, according to the Washington Post. The newspaper said Bush aides criticized the former president for being too quick to get in front of the cameras.

"Actions speak louder than words," a top Bush aide told the newspaper.

A White House spokesman said Mr. Bush could monitor developments at his Texas ranch without the need of a return to Washington or a public statement.

"The president wanted to be fully briefed on our efforts. He didn't want to make a symbolic statement about 'We feel your pain,'" a White House official told the newspaper.

snip...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/29/politics/main663680.shtml

[itzamirakul]

65. What the hell is wrong with saying...

"We feel your pain?" Sometimes a symbolic statement is necessary while trying to get material aid to the distressed areas and people.

Damn, those Bushies are too stupid to see how stupid they sound.

[Dr Fate]

23. Bill Clinton=Emanuel Goldstein

Clinton AKA Emanuel Goldstein is somehow always "around when things go wrong" and is an apparent "cause" for everything that makes Bush look bad...

[fooj]

25. Enough, already!

Has anyone here witnessed this admin. take RESPONSIBILITY for anything? It's always something or someone elses BOO-BOO! Boo hoo!:nopity: Next thing we'll hear is that it's Clinton's fault THEY stole the election!! They are just TOO MUCH...:eyes:

[AP]

26. Clinton couldn't rely on the media to mediate what he was trying to tell

America. That's why Clinton had to communicate directly with America every chance he got.

Bush, on the other hand, can count on the media to present Bush positively even when the unmediated reality is an unmitigated disaster.

Bush does better not going to the cameras because the whitewashed media version of him is so much better than reality (remeber his post-9/11 appearances -- they were more frightening than 9/11 in many ways).

[Dr Fate]

29. I wish top Dems would say what you just said on TV today.

We need to start making our case instead of expecting people to just start getting it...

I'm frustrated w/ the party- they need to start sending top figures on TV and start pointing out the obvious...

[chyjo]

33. Oh yeah

Clinton sucked. He never even started a war. I mean, come on all those "humanitarian efforts", what a total loser. With no blitzkrieg tactics or invasions he'll never go down in history as anything more than a mediocre president.

[allalone]

35. we would grow old waiting for * to lead

everytime anything happens, he is oddly missing.

[Sparkly]

36. This is why he didn't speak right after the 9/11 attacks, too

He didn't want to be too quick to head for the cameras. You know, expressing grief, consolation, giving courage, faith, direction, hope, etc. is just what Clinton would do. And anything Clinton would do, they won't do.

[Hello_Kitty]

40. Clue to Bush aides: Clinton is a respected statesman in the world.

So sorry that your boss is world famous for being a fuckwitted moron and, therefore, not as likely to be sought for comment in this situation. I know, have him go speak to the adoring masses Jesusland while Mr. Clinton speaks to everyone else. I think it's a good compromise.

[EC]

41. Just shows their stripes

When they think of a disaster as a "photo op" You know they have no actual altruistic traits...

[radfringe]

45. just sour grapes

because Clinton was making statements while bush* was sitting around with his fingers up his butt...

probably practicing how to say Tsunami

[RelativelyJones]

46. Always the same doe-si-doe

Its mother fucking incompetence every time. No one's at the wheel assessing the situation and preparing a response. There's not one goddamn reason why Rice as NSA shouldn't have sorted this out. Once again they are a day late and a dollar short, obesessed with the crap game they have going in Iraq and ignoring an opportunity for a masterstroke in the "war on terror". They could have been magnanimous like never before and genuinely altered people's thinking about the USA. That's how diplomacy gets advanced. One fine day the people who voted for this boob have just got to realize that Bush is just plain small-time.

[robbedvoter]

47. W is busy monitoring - everyone must wait till the brush is cut

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBP3EPKA3E.html
Bush Biking, Relaxing at Ranch
By Deb Riechmann Associated Press Writer
Published: Dec 28, 2004
CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) - Besides monitoring the devastating earthquake in Southeast Asia, President Bush is biking and strolling around his ranch here and pondering tax reform and other goals in his second term.
"He's clearing some brush this morning," deputy White House press secretary Trent Duffy said Tuesday, adding that the president and first lady also planned to host friends at the ranch.

[MikeG]

48. Do you read the Washington Post?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32337-2004Dec28.html

[WI_DEM]

49. Yes, in a international emergency with thousands of people dead

Bush "won't head to cameras" and say something becuz of Bill Clinton.

[buddysmellgood]

50. Once again, it's Clinton's fault.

[48pan]

53. It Doesn't Matter... Either Way We Win!

If he goes right out, he's grandstanding. If not, he doesn't care. I love it.

[thinkingwoman]

56. earth to bush aides...

Clinton doesn't need your permission to speak to reporters.

Why can't these brats grow up just a little? Jeesh. Almost 100,000 dead and bushites have nothing more important to do than whine that Clinton was on TV?

[GetTheRightVote]

58. * just wants to down a beer or two, do a little weeeeedddd then maybe just

maybe he will join the rest of us in the real world.

Then next maybe just maybe he will look at the suffering in the world.

:kick:

[depakid]

59. Translation:

Bush cannot go before the cameras because he's incapable of speaking extemporaneously without sounding like someone who's cognitively impaired.

Clinton, on the other hand- for all his flaws, truly shined at this.

[Catherine Vincent]

62. These bushies are so pathetic!

I'll bet Clinton is laughing his ass off. Can he help it if he is asked for a response to this tragedy?

[ShadesOfC]

66. Oh Noooooo...not again: it's all in the timing.....STUPID!!!!

I find it hard to believe these Bushwhacks are that insulated from reality. :puffpiece: duh...duh...which way did he go, which way did he go........dat Clinton, he done.....done it again! :bounce:

[Contrary1]

67. This blogger puts it all in perspective...

"...Now, let's leave aside for a moment the discussion of this administration's words to action ratio; is it in any conceivable universe appropriate for the White House to react to a cataclysmic tragedy by taking verbal swipes at former Presidents? This is sickening and disgusting. And sadly, no more than we've come to expect.

So I guess that's it; if the administration thinks it's okay to score cheap points based on the deaths of 60,000 people, well, fine."

<snip>

"If you could experience empathy, you might actually embrace your role as leader of the Free World and try to do something. You might try to pony up actual money, not just dispatch a destroyer and give out the kind of money Halliburton spills every day.

But of course, it's more important for you to poke fun at former President Clinton..."

http://moderateleft.blogspot.com/

[d_b]

68. Bush aides belive all sorts of whacky shit the last I checked.