Stop with the Vote challenge stuuf? The HELL I SAY

[Capn Sunshine]

Maybe we all need to remind ourselves about the conscious policies in place that resulted in the rat fucking of democracy in Ohio.

Watch this video and then tell me we should sit on our complacent asses in comfort while people wait in line for four hours just to vote, knowing that there's a good chance they will not be heard and their vote not counted.

http://460design.net/ohio/

This is 21st Century America, folks, not some backward third world country.

Sit down and shut up?
Assholes.
BULLSHIT ON THAT. GET THE F OUTTA HERE. :nuke:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

1. Aye aye, Cap'n!!

I WILL NOT SHUT UP ABOUT THE FRAUD AND SIT ON MY ASS UNTIL THE NEXT RIGGED ELECTION!!! That is my FINAL ANSWER!!! :nuke:

[Guaranteed]

2. Well, we need to get the best case together we can and

ram it up our Senators' asses.

I'm not very hopeful about this, though.

Can someone please do that? Take the next couple of days and just write up a massive report with whatever we've got and send it out?

I'd do it myself, but research is by far not my specialty.

[Capn Sunshine]

3. watch the video

even a Senator will get this.

[Guaranteed]

7. Watched it.

Not having enough machines in certain districts is voter suppression, it seems to me.

I think Conyers really ought to ram that point home. He needs to get numbers from other more Republican districts, too, with regard to the numbers of voters and voting machines.

[Capn Sunshine]

4. Oh BTW

There's some serious shit about to hit the fan in places NOT Ohio.
I don't want to ruin the surprise.
Call me a tease, just know this shit isn't over even if it takes us four more years to set it right.

[Merlot]

6. Oh you tease!

hey, you asked!

[robbedvoter]

5. Backward, third world country? Ya mean like Ukraine or Romania?

maybe a little less arrogance would allow us to see the truth more clearly. We have less of a democracy than most third world countries. Contemplate & fight.

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[hangloose]

9. The Hell you Say!! Right ON !!

[Jo March]

10. Exactly - and the best way to stand up is to fax to your Senators

Here you go. IndyOp has some good stuff that he's come up with in the fraud fight. Go to this thread and you'll be able to get to some really good information to fax to your Senators:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=221594#223783

So, for those who think that we should sit in the back of the bus - please STFU and get out of our way, thank you very much.

[Acryliccalico]

11. NEVER GIVE UP

if we give up and let it pass, History will not remember us well. Nothing will have been accomplished and we will forever go down as :crazy: :crazy: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :freak: :freak: :freak: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :crazy: :crazy: We know we are right!!!

[Pithy Cherub]

12. Sing it Loud, Sing it proud, sing it ALL DAY! Voter suppression,

Voter Suppression, Election Fraud, Private republican owned companies owning e-voting machines...

Those who remain silent are assumed to have consented...

[Capn Sunshine]

16. Hell YES I say

we need NOISE, and lots ofit

[NoFederales]

13. Compelling Reason to KEEP PROTESTING

I posted a similar message on the opposing "stop the vote challenge stuff", but my major concern is putting integrity into the voting process. It's a shame about Gore and Kerry, but how will progressives ever regain a majority politically if the voting process can be manipulated--and goddamn it, the RW's said they were going to do it!

A paper trail is a paramount concern whatever the voting machine happens to be. ATMs, credit card gas pumps, etc. give paper receipts as bona fides that a transaction took place. WTF is the matter with doing the same with voting machines? There is ample evidence that disenfranchisement is practiced, and it needs to be severely punished by jail time with clearly defined descriptions as to what disenfranchisement is AND leave a loophole for judges to jail the creative assholes who fringe around the definitions.

For a start, these two guarantees: 1. paper trail; 2. jail time for disenfranchisement practices, will help get elections somewhat back in balance.

I cannot see much of a political future for America if election fraud isn't snuffed out.

NoFederales

[Capn Sunshine]

14. yet they persist.

They are here , telling us to act more moderately. To keep it down, lest we scare people. Shhhh. We don't want to unduly upset people with the loss of their basic democracy.

Why are so many on DU here solely to perpetuate this agenda of capitulation?

I was around in '72 and I can can tell you, this sort of panic did not exist.

Well meaning or agenda laden, the truth is the truth, and shushing us up will only do a disservice to our children and their children.

[Eloriel]

15. It's a good thing

I'm married, or I would be AFTER you, Capn. :evilgrin:

Well said, all down the line. Keep it up. Please.

[Acryliccalico]

17. Kick n/t

[AgadorSparticus]

18. right on, capn!!

:thumbsup: