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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 11:22 AM Original message |
The framing of political debate (Linguistics professor George Lakoff) |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. DFA Members: Tonight's meetup is about Lakoff and framing! |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Saw some of the video last night |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
2. Taxes vs. dues or fees |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
3. Media consumption only reenforces the RW vocabulary |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
4. Lakoff's books are a good read |
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brainshrub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
5. To quote Newt Gingrich: |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
6. Lakoff to have conference calls next week.....posts at blog today. |
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Virginia Dem (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. pointless |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Well and good, but if we don't frame it properly, it'll never work. |
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Virginia Dem (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. true but |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Which why I would like Dean as DNC Chair! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. That is exactly the message Howard Dean puts forth. |
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DaedelusNemo (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 05:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. changing frame part of changing agenda... and vice-versa /nt |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. The problem that I have |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. First you have to take back the language. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Words mean what they mean. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. No, only "relief" for the big guys. |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Then that can be |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. We can not state our agenda if we can not overcome their abuse of words. |
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DaedelusNemo (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. It is 1984ish - and it's been done to you since 70's |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. "tax relief" is an excellent example of repub framing; |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. That is their position. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Republican "tax relief" is a lie. It is actually increaseing the tax |
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forgethell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. So we can't lower |
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DaedelusNemo (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 05:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Benefit a few at the expense of the rest? |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. words |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. not just words |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. more words |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 02:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Calling welfare AFDC will just make people's eyes glaze over... |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Yes |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Well, that was just off the top of my head... |
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DaedelusNemo (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. It's about changing the context in which the words are understood |
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jswordy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
15. Cool and this is just the kind of... |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
20. Lakoff |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
31. The DU Non-Fiction Book Club |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
32. For example, Social Security "Contribution" not Tax |
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VioletLake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
37. The art of persuasion has been around for ages. |
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eg101 (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
38. yeah! Let's just hide behind marketspeak and forget issues! |
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DaedelusNemo (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-05 09:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Clearly you have to do both - good ideas and present them well /nt |
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