Dean Mercilessly Ridiculed on L.A. Radio Station KROQ

[DoveTurnedHawk]

I am an avid listener of top-rated morning show "Kevin and Bean" on KROQ, Los Angeles' leading-edge alternative rock station. One of their highlights today was the 13-second Drudge Report audio clip of Howard Dean's Iowa concession speech.

They mocked him mercilessly, particularly the "yahhhhhhh" bit at the end of the clip. They played that last bit over and over. "I wasn't going to vote for him before, but now I think I will because otherwise he might kick my ass!" The DJs could not stop cracking up whenever they heard that clip, and it got a lot of play.

To my astonishment, I actually felt kind of bad for Dean. It's one thing to be taken down on issues. It's another thing entirely to be mocked. I just don't like it when Democrats are mocked by moderate to slightly conservative, funny but smarmy, radio hosts.

Dennis Kucinich has been using a great tagline, modified slightly from Gandhi's: "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they attack you, then you win." If that's true, then I'm afraid Howard Dean backslid last night in Iowa.

DTH

[mmonk]

1. Yeah

some morning radio jockeys I listen to started doing it. I switched to NPR.

[MsUnderstood]

7. Who can you listen to!?!?

I switched to Kevin and Bean after being throughly disappointed by my choices in my town--one morning I woke up to a DJ talking about "Dumbocrats" and this was a "music station". I called and said if I wanted to wake up to politics I would turn on the talk station and the DJ told me "if you don't like it, don't listen.".

I turned that station OFF and switched to another station which had greate DJs but changed their play list from top 40 to hip hop (I cannot bear Eminem first thing in the morning, UGH!).

I went back to the first station which had fortunately fired the idiot DJ and this station had turned into on big soap opera. A typical morning show was "Call us and tell us what you would do in this situation. Susie slept with 5 guys and now doesn't know who the father of her child is. Doug hasn't slept with her but is going to marry her anyway. Susie is concerned that doug doesn't really love her"

I couldn't take that anymore so now I listen to Kevin and Bean, but I found it really annoying that last week I woke up to one of them talking about how he urinates without touching his penis and this week I woke up to people calling in to discuss their 3rd nipple.

I am thinking of setting up my Sirius radio to an alarm clock or going back to the beep--anthing has got to be better!!

[mmonk]

13. Know what you mean

good choices are getting harder to find.

[mydawgmax]

23. I moved to Seattle from LA

and I have to say one of the things I miss most about LA is Kevin and Bean. I remember being really bothered by their support for the secession of San Fernando valley becuase the preferred name for the proposed new city was Camelot. I was bugged that they seemed to be irresponsibly using a morning drive time humor show to affect serious political decisions. Nevertheless its a great show and they will savagely make fun of whoever is in the press.

[progressivebydesign]

33. The old KROQ....

That never would have happened. The OLD KROQ was housed in the top floor of a small office building in Pasadena. The DJs were all quite liberal, fun, and a bit off the wall. This was when DJs could actually choose their own music. No coroprate memos and program managers to choose it, and program the computer for them. Fond memories of hanging in the studio.... before the corporate scum purchased radio up.

I heard some local Seattle DJs mercilessly attacking Rep. McDermott for suggesting Bush had lied about the WMD. Never again did I tune in to them. I hate morning radio.. it's testosterone-laced spam for the soul.

[BigBigBear]

2. I believe that quote

is attributed to Ghandi.

[incapsulated]

3. I heard

that Stern did the exact same thing. I will have to take the poster's word for it, since you would need to literally put a gun to my head to make me listen to him.

I don't think the whole blow-up is quite as bad as most people do, though. Which is unusual, for me, heh.

[knight_of_the_star]

61. Yeah he did

He played ACDC's Highway to Hell in the background of the Dean clip.

[JI7]

4. it is an entertainment show

so i wouldn't worry about these things too much.

[tinrobot]

5. He's being mocked everywhere...

I saw it on a few morning news programs. That speech is going to hurt him, particularly going into NH. I like Dean's message, but the messenger wasn't very presidential last night.

[piece sine]

24. I work an overwhelmingly Democratic law firm in DC

The biggest topic at the so-called water cooler today is Howard Dean's "WWF screaming speech" and how it has changed people's view of Dean. Democrats in DC were shocked by it; taken back by it! Kerry reaped twice; first by winning so big; second, by Dean acting so profoundly unpresidential in his tirade. And I can't swallow Dean's excuse to Katie Kouric that he was just trying to please his 3500 supporters. Dozens of national network cameras were rolling! And now Dean supporters find themselves scratching around for excuses why their candidate acts so ANGRY when he must start looking presidential!

I fear voters will not forget this. This is a big deal! For many people, this was their FIRST IMPRESSION of Dean and he appeared every bit as red-faced angry as his critics say. When Democrats start tearing Dean apart -- like they are today -- I worry about how Dean's going to do next against an invigorated Kerry; a polltically re-born Edwards and a surging Clark.

I'm ready to jump on the Clark bandwagon of Dean does poorly in New Hampshire.

[Jerseycoa]

45. I was wondering how the water cooler

vote was going after that spectacle. I'm retired now.

[Imajika]

6. Same in Northern Virginia

I have heard that Dean clip all over the radio today. I figured it would just get play on rightwing talk radio, but that clip of Dean screeching "yeeaaaaahhhhh" was played even on the morning shows of FM music stations.

The completely non political types in my office were even laughing about it. Not good for Dean at all.

I am no fan of Howard Dean and am fully convinced he would be annhilated by Bush in a general election, but I did feel bad for him this morning.

Imajika

[funky_bug]

8. My (*^'in radio guys did it too

Now, it's no the head jockstrap, um, er...JOCKEY is a Bush lovin' freeper, but he keeps his political commentary quite, saving it for his afternoon AM Freeper LoveFest...

But they played that clip over and over, laughing themselves into a corner.

I've been on the receiving end of some serious bashing at the hands of Dean supporters (and to be fair, one Edwards supporter, and one Kucinich supporter), but I felt sorry for Dean too. Hell, it was 2 friggin' AM.

[Jerseycoa]

46. An Edwards supporter?

Wow, I've never seen that. :o

I felt more sorry for Dean supporters last night than for Dean.

[funky_bug]

53. Yep

There is one die-hard Edwards guy that hates... I tell ya HATES Clark.

And I feel sorry for them too. They need time to regroup, and everyone is bashing the bejeezus out of them.

[StClone]

9. My kids watched without me and call Dean a Pro-wrestle

What can I say.

[newsjunkie]

31. See...kids know a fighter with spirit

when they see one. Maybe he'll wrestle Bush out of the WH IF we send him to get a chance to.

[sweetheart]

10. KROQ, Rock of the 80's.. totally hip

That was the tag line i remember from them... sounds like they haven't changed a bit.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

11. I haven't heard it yet but I am lead to believe it was really BAD

youch... I think Dean's chances of winning NH have been hurt seriously by this.

[Capn Sunshine]

12. Gee, its almost as if...

One big radio company supplied a perfectly edited tape to every morning show in the country.

OK. I concede the media has far more power than we anticipated.
DTH be warned, your boy gets the treatment next.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

29. I Know

Clark is clearly next on the hit parade, IMO. We'll be ready.

BTW, KROQ is Westwood One/Viacom/Infinity.

DTH

[Capn Sunshine]

32. I know KROQ is Infinity,

but I was trying to make the point that a very large coordinated media effort was behind the supply of the edited "Drudge on Dean" tape to every morning show in America this morning.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

41. Drudge sent out tapes? Didn't hear that one...

n/t

[DaisyUCSB]

14. The Howard Stern show wasn't mean about it, but it was hilarious

they have a running joke about Artie Lange, the other co-host with Robin Quivers, doing an AC-DC impression, and sayying things like
"FI-AHHHHH!!!!!"

Dean sounded alot like that impression and they were just crying in laughter

it was very funny

Now they are using that scream as a sound effect that they play repeatedly througout the show

[neverforget]

44. That was an hilarious bit! Did you catch the little bit to "TNT"?

"I'm HOWARD DEAN! Oy! Oy! I'm DYNAMITE!" Hilarious!

I'm listening to the liberal Randi Rhodes at the moment and she's using that clip of Dean and it's still funny.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

48. OMG! Randi Rhodes is using it?

n/t

[theboss]

15. Stern did a long bit on it too

It was actually pretty funny since they've been having Artie do his Bon Scott/Brian Johnson imitation for a few months and Dean's scream fit in really well with "For Those About to Rock." They also mixed it in with "Hot for Teacher."

I think Robin said the only thing missing from the tape was Dean drinking from a whiskey bottle.

I know it makes people angry, but as soon as I saw it last night, I figured it was going to be parodied everywhere.

[Clark Can WIN]

22. " as I saw it last night, I figured it was going to be parodied everywher"

Yeah, gads, I hate to pile on but if that were Clark I would be HORRIFIED. It was pretty easy to see it was going to be everywhere today.

I understand alot of his supporters liked it and I can kind of see why because that's what appeals to many of them. I think he would have done better to save that mania for touchdown in New Hampshire among the faithful rather than on world wide TV in a spotlight.

There's still time to put the wheels back on the bus though, we will see what we will see.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

47. Just wait until Letterman, The Daily Show - they love to make fun of Dean

I'm sure they'll also do a bit on Sat Night Live. The bad thing is that on Sat Night Live they'll make it look even worse than it was.... Dean has got to change his "tone" because they're just all going to be waiting for more and jumping on it....

The media treatment of Dean will make the treatment of Gore look like a "lovefest" I'm afraid. It's going to be very tough on Dean. Right when he could use a mini-vacation - it's back into the frying pan.

[Clark Can WIN]

16. the epidemic of *&%cking conservative disc jockeys in love with the sounds

of their own voices is what is spurring XM Radio. God, to get away from that innane chattering.

[DBoon]

17. "leading edge alternative"? NOT!

KROQ may have deserved this title 20 years ago, but have long since lost the right to call themselves "leading edge alternative" anything.


You want leading edge alternative in LA, try KXLU 88.9FM

[shance]

18. Wow. Sounds like all the Clear Channel employees got their memo

this morning.

So pathetic. They will do and ridicule anyone, even when they are doing so much positive for the country.

What good has the whore of all whores white supremist Howard Stern done lately other than talk about F****ing women and using them as props for the show.

[theboss]

19. Howard is on Infinity/So is Imus

[DoveTurnedHawk]

28. KROQ Is Westwood One/Viacom/Infinity, Not Clear Channel (eom)

DTH

[BootinUp]

20. just talkin to a libertarian friend

at work, he was listening to radio during lunch (didn't catch the name of the show) they were debuting the Dean car alarm guaranteed to scare anyone away.

Oh dear.

[Ramsey]

21. I'm wondering

If the threads from Clark supporters trashing Dean today is going to top 1000. Do we really need this many threads on the exact same topic??

Let me ask you, did you like it when the media ridiculed Gore for sighing excessively in one of the debates? I know I didn't. It was petty and it was inaccurate and it was intended to tear down Gore into some ridiculous caricature that he was not.

Well, with your incessant bloviating about the Dean speech, which wasn't nearly as bad as is being described. It was a pep rally for his supporters, plain and simple. I don't care, and neither should you, if Drudge/CNN/MSNBC or some random radio station in LA is making fun of it. If they weren't making fun of that specific thing, it would just be something else, or they'd just make something up.

Until the primary campaign started, we all seemed to understand the media was out enemy. Now that they are bashing the guy you don't like, they suddenly gain credibility? How interesting. I can't wait to see how you all react when the media does a smack-down on your guy.

[theboss]

25. It's not the media doing it . . .

I work in Northern VA. Pretty much everyone I know is politcally aware and very liberal. And everyone is asking, "What the fuck was that?" about last night. Even people who went to Dean rallies have admitted that it was over-the-top.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

27. I am just amazed that you really expect people to not talk about this.

It's one thing as a supporter of a candidate to give him the benefit of the doubt and basically give him a pass when he does something questionable -- that's loyalty.

But to get irate at the fact that other people talk about it is misguided.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

30. Again, I Actually Felt Bad for Dean This Morning

And for me, that's noteworthy.

DTH

[newsjunkie]

34. Great post

This is very disappointing coming from Democrats. Hmm..if they are playing along with the smear attacks of the corrupt whoring RW radio jocks they must not be from the 'democratic wing' of the Democrat party.I'm just saying...
Its sickening to me just like I was in last election by the way the Greens were acting. If people would get behind Howard, the Dem party could be once again a winning vibrant force to be reckoned with. They are playing right in their hands out of petty stubborness and some are doing it for their own personal greed. I'm standing with Howard and HIS movement he started that all the other lacking candidates are trying now to adopt and copy. sheesh I even heard John Edwards call his campaign a 'movement'HUH? since when? and that he wanted to 'take back the country' in one of his Iowa speeches.Gee how original. Then I heard Kerry trying to say Howard's stump speech lines too.
Dang it I never have been able to stand a copycat. These are decent poeple but they are being forced down our throats as 'electable candidates' and I am sick of it. I am sending my DNC payment for this year to Howard Dean.(sorry James Carville and Bill Clinton)
Time marches on.

[newsjunkie]

26. I thought it was funny

and delightful to see a politician expressing real emotion and exitement. I was yelling with him and laughing my butt off! He said he was trying to have some fun and rally his troops to get ready for NH and I think it did. No matter what he does they are going to pick on him anyway,because hes SO different from what they are accustomed to,and they want the staus quo(phony PC crap and rolling over for the GOP and letting them tell us how we Democrats should 'act')
so Bush can keep raping America and the bought off media can keep their jobs! Howard thinks we can do better than that. Like he says we cant beat Bush by trying to act like him. I hope he keeps being himself and lettin it all hang out however he feels it should be.

GIVE EM HELL HOWARD !!!!

[progressivebydesign]

35. I just assumed he was losing his voice.. but..

I do admit, the other day when he screamed out about sending Bush back to Crawford, Texas, and it came out like Jack Nicholson doing "here's Johnny" in the Shining.. well.. it didn't feel good to me as a Dean supporter.

I love Dean's message.. I do. It resonates with me so deeply. He is the most sincere of the candidates, to me. Kerry's message is good.. but he seems so impassionate about it.. perhaps from years of debating the republican schmucks in D.D. Dean reminds me of me.. passionate, but perhaps a bit too adrenaline prone when I get going about something I care about. As a doctor, he should consider taking Endural.. the drug of choice for neurotic classical musicians, and fear-prone public speakers everywhere.

Notice how this message, which is the most compelling of all.. is totally lost. The campaigns really are beauty contests in many ways, aren't they?

[DoveTurnedHawk]

37. Sadly, Elections Have Always Been Beauty Contests

It's classroom popularity contests, writ large.

:evilfrown:

DTH

[K8-EEE]

38. I Am Sad To Say, Last Night's Speech Is Easy To Make Fun Of

And I'm afraid it made a lasting impression. People who are 100% sold on Dean will get over it quickly, as GWBs mega-fans gloss over all his gaffes; but for those of us who were starting to get uneasy about Dean's demeanor, it's really hard to get over! I say this as someone who has donated to Dean's campaign, and has no ill feelings for him personally; I think he blew it.

[newsjunkie]

43. oh boy now he is getting medical advice from DUers ; )

heehee Just kidding...i know what you mean but honestly I see how real and full of fun and life he is at these rallys, and in a different 'interview' type seeing his message and intelligence shines through. I think people are over reacting to this(because the media is driving it like they did with Gore!). I saw him going through a supporter line after a rally in Davenport and he was letting people take posed pics of him with them and he would put on his 'mean-dean' face while the pic was snapped. It was very funny, but most people dont get the self mocking sarcasm and humor. He is so cool. I get it and have got it all along. If he doesnt get nominated get ready for four more from the chimp.
He is angry and so are we ....right?
We ARE arent WE?
Well,I for one sure am. I want a real person who understands and agrees with what we are all feeling and going through, and will take the fight to the chimp unelected imposter hypocrite.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

49. People move through the "stages" at different rates... Some quicker, some

take longer. Doesn't mean one person is right over the other.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

50. Yeah but then they'll say he's on psychotropic" drugs.

n/t

[dawn]

36. Screw KROQ, that station sucks.

It was great in the 80s, when they actually played real alternative music. Now all they play is boring alt-metal droning stuff, and recylced Pearl Jam clones.

103.1 is a great new LA-area alternative station.

And Kevin & Bean are morons.

[K8-EEE]

39. Yes, But This Is The Kind Of Thing That Is Easy To Laugh At

Unfortunately.

[dawn]

40. Yes, but so is KROQ's playlist.

Sorry, I just really hate that station, and I'm not even a Dean supporter. :)

[ronnykmarshall]

42. From my mom

She and my step dad were on their way to work listening to radio (101.something in Bakersfield) and this morning DJ was going on and on about Iowa race. The other DJ pipes up "I am so sick of hearing about this. I am a republican and I COULDN'T CARE LESS!"

My mom de-programed the station with a comment: Bye-bye BITCH!

[West Coast Democrat]

51. Was Jon Stewart on last night?

I'm expecting Jon will rip into Dean also. It was just so over the top.

[Monument]

52. Dean on Stern

The bit which Howard Stern did with Artie when they used the Dean speech set to AC/DCs "For those about to rock" was absolutely hilarious. My god, it was sooo funny. For the uninitiated, Artie is a comedian and he was doing a voiceover in a Dean "pro wrestling" voice "This campaign is all about booze and weed" set to the heavy metal AC/DC. They also used the Dean "yeahhh" in a number of songs.

I was just listening to a liberal radio host Jim Browdy in Boston and even he was very disturbed by the Dean outburst.

I think that this won't resonate well with women particularly. My wife was staring at the TV in disbelief last night during Dean's speech. I was in the other room and she was screaming to me "oh my god, it's like watching the Titanic sink"

and I said to myself "This is going to be ALL over the press tomorrow"

I really don't think it's a suprise, or a media whore issue, I merely think that it's a case of a candidate acting very, very strangely.

[jsw_81]

54. He was ridiculed on Seattle radio too

They played the clip over and over and over...

[KoKo]

55. "Media Whores" Ridiculing? What else is new......just wait until they go

after your guy...then you will know what it's all about!

[everdene]

56. Dennis Miller is on CNBC right now railing on Dean.

Miller is SO unfunny.

[Southsideirish]

57. Just shows his lack of media savvy - very easily repaired.

He was excited and 'was rallying the "stormers" and probably didn't know the stupid TV cameras were on. Tom Harkin was screaming his head off, too, introducing him.
The media is insidious - even Cspan. I was at a rally on Sunday and 'was chatting to the person standing next to me. The guy behind me grabbed my arm and pointed to a microphone taped to the wall -the purpose of which was to pick up conversations by unknowing rally attendees. This was a cspan mike. I would have explored suing them if they had taped me without my permission.

[freetempe]

58. Laugh now, non-Dean fans...

Your guy is next...

[Feanorcurufinwe]

60. Only

if he starts acting like an idiot will he be next on this hit parade.

[meow mix]

59. its worse on KFI

of course,
because KFI is for the piggies.
i listen just so i know what they are up too, and what is pissing them off. =)