Ugh, Tim Roemer, DNC Chair candidate on "This Week"

[cali]

I've tried to keep an open mind, but forget that. This guy is totally unacceptable, stomach turning in fact. Anyone else listening to the shit this guy is spewing?

[iconoclastic cat]

1. No---what's he saying?

[spanone]

2. He's a 'pro-life' democrat? Gimme a break.

This is truly what the right wing wants. Pro life dems debating pro life rethugs.

[mtnsnake]

3. I only caught the last 7 or 8 minutes & he didn't sound all that terrible

to me. I'm glad that he clarified his position on Social Security, where he said that one or more of the bloggers had completely misinterpreted him previously.

[itzamirakul]

4. Yes, I watched also...

DOUBLE UGH!

He lost me when he said, "I'm not going to lead this party to the left. And I am not going to guied it to the right."

No more middle-of-the-raod for me!

Might as well say, "OK, we are willing to compromise on all of our principles...so what do you Republicans want us to give up? It's all yours."

[AntiCoup2K4]

5. This guy's a sleazeball

Looks and sounds just like he walked off the set of a televangelist TV show. Even more of a slimebag than McUseless would be my guess.

DNC chair worthy? I don't fucking think so.

[TomClash]

6. Moving the Dems to the right on social issues

and talking about our "values."

I don't see the evidence that people voted Republican because of conservative moral values.

I don't like Roemer either. I think the 9/11 Commission "Report" failed to ask or answer many questions and he was part of that.

To capture some of those voters who went to Bush I think the Party has to address the ordinary people's economic concerns, not some amorphous social values. Roemer touched on helping the "least of our brethern" but I'm skeptical of his (or the DLC's) commitment to a more just economic system. His votes don't show it.

[StClone]

7. I think he is a Right wing plant

Or at least believes that we have to go into a cocoon of right-wingishness and reemerge as a beautiful gray moth left to flutter in circles around the dim lights of Bushworld.

[InvisibleBallots]

11. either a plant, or he really does believe in Republican values

Either he's a plant working for the Republicans, or else he's just a true believer in the Republicans - he thinks that the majority of Americans agree with the Republicans, and Democrats must act more like Republicans if we want to win.

What's the difference either way? If the Republicans aren't paying him, they should be.

[paulk]

8. he's a stalking horse

put out as an alternative to Dean. The real choice will come from between those two poles. He won't get the chairmanship.

[Warpy]

9. Typical DLC milksop, completely missing the point

which is that the party needs to recapture its base if it ever wants to win any elections.

That means putting working class economic issues back on the table, something this bunch of overpaid, overfed corporatized pigs took off the table in the 70s and with predictable results.

Sure, Timmy, you just go on whoring for corporate cash and promising crumbs to well off yuppies. Keep ignoring working people who are charging up credit cards to feed and clothe their kids. Keep ignoring people who arrive at the ER nearly dead because they couldn't afford to see a doctor early in their illnesses. Ignore the elderly who are choosing between food and medicine. Keep doing the same damn thing that has lost you so many elections in the past.

Just don't look surprised as it keeps you out of power.

Centrist my flabby pasty ass.

[BlueInRed]

10. I agree

We need someone who is willing to go to the mat for the most fundamental Democratic ideas. Roemer's not that guy. I don't mind a candidate with disagreements over fringe issues, but at a minimum the overall record should reflect a basic commitment to the average Joe or Jane, to peace and to freedom. When they stray from that, they shouldn't lead our party.

And for the record, I think we should say to people in Congress, what matters is how you actually vote on issues, not what you say. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words. Go to the mat (ie, put your vote where your mouth is) on issues you claim to support, of forget it. I no longer believe what our leaders say, only what they vote for (or maneuver around in cloture votes).

As a former NDN member, I watched a lot of these guys say they support issues (such as Lieberman), then vote with Republicans on all the little amendments leading up to the "big vote" and then take a token stand by voting with the Dems in the end, after they've already sabotaged a law through all their little pro-Republican amendment votes. Then they'll stand up and say, how horrible this happened. Give me a break. Put your votes (ALL of them) where your mouth is or shut up.

[oldtime dfl_er]

12. He reminded me of Norm Coleman

Smarmy, snaky. Not all his positions are wrong, but I don't care for his attitude or mien.




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[bloom]

13. plus Scaife supports him

the guy who helped finance the Clinton attacks....

[HootieMcBoob]

14. I don't think it will happen but...

If the "leaders" in the Democratic Party want to put him in that position they will be unleashing an unimaginable shit storm on themselves. Just wait and see.