msnbc puts Bush "no accountability for Iraq war" comments as top story

[montana500]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6831621/



Bush says election ratified Iraq policy
'Accountability moment' has passed, president saysBy Jim VandeHei and Michael A. Fletcher

Updated: 11:33 p.m. ET Jan. 15, 2005President Bush said the public's decision to reelect him was a ratification of his approach toward Iraq and that there was no reason to hold any administration officials accountable for mistakes or misjudgments in prewar planning or managing the violent aftermath.

[montana500]

1. Is Bush fit for office?

Thats the mem, and should be repeated from this day out.

[UL_Approved]

4. This is a serious topic

And all the more serious that it hit the front page of MSNBC. This is an important step away from the MSM being the whore of the Apocalypse. I wonder if they will keep it up until morning...

[Tony_Illinois]

2. That is a frightening and illogical conclusion for him to make--but not

at all surprising. Every time I think we have hit bottom on outrages from BushCo, I am proven wrong.

[KarenS]

5. I agree !

I am beyond disgust, beyond outrage,,,,,

When are the other 50% going to wake up????

:argh:

[itzamirakul]

6. The most frightening thing of all is that our

so-called "Democratic leaders" will agree with Bush and will sit on their hands. We will see no action from them to refute or disagree with his claim of ratification and "no accountability."

To George Bush:
Does your "no accountability" declaration go across the board? How about a serial killer or rapist or pedophile? If any of those should win a popularity contest from other prison inmates, does that mean they should not be punished for their crimes against others?

[sorechasm]

15. Shouldn't Bush pardon Scott Peterson

As he has been such a cash cow for MSM's advertisers, he's very popular... and doesn't popularity = mandate for support. After all we can't change the past... let's turn another blind eye...

[itzamirakul]

19. This could be the "start of something bad."

I mean REALLY bad. I know they wouldn't accept this if the shoe was on the other foot.

[SammyWinstonJack]

32. That's for DAMN sure!

"I know they wouldn't accept this if the shoe was on the other foot." :grr: :mad:

[atommom]

28. I agree, and I can't figure out why he *still* isn't scaring the

bejeezus out of the other half of the US population! :scared:

[Q]

3. Accountability 'moment'?

When exactly was this 'moment' when anyone was held accountable for the treasonous act of lying this nation into war?

[malaise]

7. He can say anything

The accountablity moment will be decided by the citizens of the US and not by him.
Perhaps he should read this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6831772/

[daduddaman]

8. Sadly, he's right

It was up to the American people to vote him out to show the world that lying about aggressive, pre-emptive war is not what we are about. Iraq was by far the defining issue of this election, and if the election results were true, the policies were ratified by the people.

[Tony_Illinois]

10. I disagree with your conclusion. The election "results"--and let's put

aside that whole debate on their accuracy--do not equate to the specific issue you and GWB attribute them to. It is more complex than that. Many people, for example, voted for him NOT on the Iraq issue at all, but because they are anti-gay, or anti-choice, or pro-business, or anti-union, or anti-environmental, etc.

Do not make his "case" for him.

[daduddaman]

11. Iraq was still the main issue

I know hat there were other issues that played a part. Anti-gay definitely played a part. But most other issues were just your standard conservative versus liberal positions. I just really believe that Iraq, the way that it happened with the lying and everything, was one thing that a Bush voter had to accept before they cast their vote, and they did. It was unprecedented. We started a war because we felt like it. Bush voters had to accept this and be ready for more of the same. How could this be overlooked to concentrate on abortion or worker's rights?

[Tony_Illinois]

12. I support your outrage over the people's "choice", but there are no rules

that 1> a voter must be informed, or 2> a voter must vote on the overriding issue of the day. That would be a referendum.

[Tanuki]

14. Excellent point, Tony

It would only have been a referendum if truthful information had been out on the table. Instead, Bush chose to run a campaign based on lies and manipulation. No wonder the Repulsicans will be celebrating so ostentatiously next week...they think they are celebrating a triumph over accountability. I'm almost glad B*sh made that statement...it will come back to haunt him endlessly.

[CWebster]

17. Too bad the people weren't really given a viable choice

through an ethical media, considering how many were led to believe Saddam was behind 911. And, it wasn't as if Kerry launched a strong opposition.

[Tony_Illinois]

9. This is also on page 1 of the Washington Post today, here is a snip...

Bush Says Election Ratified Iraq Policy

No U.S. Troop Withdrawal Date Is Set

By Jim VandeHei and Michael A. Fletcher
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, January 16, 2005; Page A01

President Bush said the public's decision to reelect him was a ratification of his approach toward Iraq and that there was no reason to hold any administration officials accountable for mistakes or misjudgments in prewar planning or managing the violent aftermath.

"We had an accountability moment, and that's called the 2004 elections," Bush said in an interview with The Washington Post. "The American people listened to different assessments made about what was taking place in Iraq, and they looked at the two candidates, and chose me."

,snip>

[neweurope]

13. What Bush doesn't yet understand is that he is accountable to the

whole world. And the world does NOT think Bushs "accountabilitiy moment" has passed. Not at all. We're waiting.


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Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[radfringe]

16. not responsible for bribes and payoffs either

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1498364

but if you take a bribe or payoff -- you are wrong

[Ms_Mary]

18. And so far, he's gotten away with all of it? Where is the opposition?

[itzamirakul]

22. What opposition?...Ohhhhh...you mean

the LOYAL opposition......

[klyon]

20. I really don't think he won

I think we were cheated, if people were denied the vote we were cheated. Why should candidates be allowed to reap the benefits when their campaign people systematically deny people their constitutional right to vote. Shouldn't there be some punishment for this tactic used for years by the Rethugs.

People voted out of fear. They were systematically and completely sold this fear thing from 9-11 on. I personally think that is the saddest part of the whole terrorist thing. After an event like 9-11 I think it is leaderships job to calm the citizens down not fire them up. I hold this president accountable for every mean violent acts perpetrated against innocent Moslem's after 9-11. It is like shouting fire in a crowded theater when the is none.

I am having a hard time understanding the thinking of my fellow countrymen. How could they not see threw this bull? The only reason I can find is fear itself.

KL

[deminks]

21. Imperial hubris is an understatement.

This guy has a lifelong pattern of avoiding responsibility. I think it is to the point of mental illness.

The last part of the MSNBC article is also very telling:

<snip>

On the election Bush said he was puzzled that he received only about 11 percent of the black vote, according to exit polls, about a 2 percentage point increase over his 2000 total.

"I did my best to reach out, and I will continue to do so as the president," Bush said. "It's important for people to know that I'm the president of everybody."

<end of snip>


I think he just gave some of his political capitol to us. We need to spend it wisely by pushing these statements back at him.

[Clark2008]

33. President of everybody?

[Kinkistyle]

23. Hey, when the moments gone, its gone.

So you can do whatever the hell ya want.

[babsbunny]

24. MSNBC

Ck. Out The Question Of The Day. Do you think the election proves we aprove of his iraq policies? 80% say NO!

[SheepyMcSheepster]

25. haha, another sharpie picture

the pic with that story:



this is the second pic i have seen with him and his sharpie, maybe he likes the smell.

[deminks]

26. OMG! New epaulets!

This is the second military style jacket I have seen. The other one was brown with "Commander in Chief" over the embroidered emblem. :shrug: (I wonder if he will start adding ribbons and medals to them.)

[burn the bush]

29. perhaps he is mimicking Dole

[NVMojo]

39. this guy thinks he is some kind of a military dicktator

[robbedvoter]

27. War approved by Diebold.

Now you understand why it's so important to know that we were a majority, won, were robbed. it's either that, or you gave W carte blanche for all his s*. CHOOSE!

As for W having an entire moment of accountability - wow! That was grand of him!
Does anyone remember kerry making the election about the wrongness of goung to war?

[leesa]

30. Has anyone EVER been held accountable for anything in this

maladministration? Has anyone EVER investigated their Pearl Harbor, 9-11?

[IDemo]

31. "accountability moment"??

Bush can claim the voters gave him an "accountability moment" over Iraq, but they did not, and could not. Casting a ballot doesn't erase the culpability of the Bush administration for making the wrong decision to go to war, nor for their disastrous conduct of that war.

Vincent Bugliosi, (who prosecuted Charles Manson) wrote a book about the O.J. Simpson trial. He wrote of the incredible buffoonery and incompetence of the prosecutors, lawyers, judge, and jury in arriving at a 'not guilty' verdict. The title of the book is "Outrage". The Bush voters of 2004 are this year's Simpson jurors. Maybe it's time for another book from Mr. Bugliosi.

[indie_voter]

34. I see why he feels this way

I sort of feel this way too.

The election was the moment to hold this administration accountable for Iraq and every other inept, insane decision made.

Instead, he was given a pass.

It is a measure of his arrogance that he sees no problem saying this out loud.

I hope it will backfire on him and people will become outraged, but I ain't holding my breath. :p

[Geek_Girl]

35. The American People didn't hold him accountable by Giving him the Boot

So now he has the mandate to lie to, steal from and murder who ever the hell he pleases.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!

[Sparkly]

36. What an arrogant jerk!!!

This is what happens when idiots say they don't like what he's doing, but vote for him anyway. He interprets it as approval of what he's doing. DUH.

[TankLV]

37. We had a chance in a lifetime.

A complete proven failure - and we still couldn't "win" enough to make it hard for them to steal.

An AWOL WAR CRIMINAL versus a WAR HERO.

The choice couldn't have been more clear.

So sad. So very sad.

And you thought the LAST four years were "fun"!

[NVMojo]

38. this man "*" needs a pyschiatric evaluation ...

and he needs it yesterday!!!!

[Dr Fate]

40. DEMS need to jump on this.

They need to go on TV every night and repeat, repeat, repeat Bush's own words.

[ticapnews]

41. I wonder if I could get away with this at my job... (eom)

The accountability moment has passed...