Gore / Obama 08 ??? Is there a chance?

[AVID]

[seriousstan]

1. 100% chance....of losing. Why would we recycle Gore?

He would be death to any ticket. Obama should not be sunk with that stone around his neck.

[AVID]

He hasn't lost anything yet

[seriousstan]

3. Fine, my point stands. Gore is a losing ticket.

[bobbyboucher]

15. Baloney.

You can no more say that than you can say ANY ticket is a losing (or winning) ticket. You are just speculating, and you are wrong.

[roguevalley]

2. no. a lot will depend on whether the DNC thing is a good choice

or not. Besides, I am tired of one term people going for the presidency. They owe their state more time.

[MichiganVote]

4. Gore will not run again. its over for him. Obama/not enough experience

[flpeach]

5. I disagree

I think a Gore/Obama ticket is a real winner!! Seriously.

Gore is not a loser. He would be a terrific leader and Obama may not have much experience but he has momentum and he will learn quickly.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

6. No! Please...

no more runs by Gore or Kerry. No Bayh either - he's about as bland as they come and Americans don't seem to like bland. Maybe that newly elected Democratic governor from MT is someone we should be watching (although 2008 seems a bit soon):

http://governor.mt.gov/bios/govbio.asp

Obama yes, although he's barely been sworn in as a junior senator!

Isn't Michael Moore trying to get Tom Hanks into politics? Maybe some day we'll see Forrest Gump against The Terminator.

[housewolf]

7. We shouldn't run senators

I posted this over on the other Obama post, I'll post it here too. It's just my opinion but...

Obama may be the greatest person and senator in the world, but senators (and congressional reps) are rarely elected to the presidency. They have terrible odds against winning a presidential election. We start out "behind the eight-ball" if we decide to run a senator for the presidency. Governors have better chances of willing presidential elections.

1960 is the last time a senator was elected to the presidency. Think of all the senators who have tried to win the presidency since then.

[Hippo_Tron]

8. The only senators I can think of since then are McGovern and Kerry

Dukakis was a govern, Gore and Mondale were Vice Presidents. And Kerry didn't loose the presidency because he was a senator. Yes, they did use his history to their advantage but no more so than they used Dukakis' governorship to their advantage.

Most governors don't have the appeal that they used to because they aren't washington outsiders anymore, they are very much involved in national party politics, some moreso than the politics of their own state.

Senator or not a senator I'll take a good candidate when I see one, and there are many good candidates that I see from the senate, Russ Feingold for example.

[dansolo]

9. No

Gore is a possibility, and I would support him. But there is no way that Obama is going to be on the ticket in 2008. He is going to stay for at least 1 full term. He may possibly consider running in 2012, after winning re-election, and even then he may focus on the Senate, but perhaps allow himself to be selected as a VP candidate. That may be the best stepping stone for a possible Obama presidency.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

17. Spitzer/Obama or Obama/Spitzer in 2012...

after Spitzer wins as NY governor in 2006? Depending on how "things" pan out over the years, I think that ticket would put the fear of God in the right-wing nuts. Doesn't help us much in 2008, however...

[grumpy old fart]

10. Would love to see Gore.....

Hate to say it, but the Repugs are gonna be in power for a while...there are just too many damn stupid people in this country willing to drink the Kool Aid...So I'd just as soon we run articulate intelligent folks who can speak truth to power, and Gore has, to my mind, been radicalized by our drift into fascism, and I think he makes a damn fine mouthpiece...

[saltpoint]

11. Can't say what Al is up to --

-- or whether he'll try again. Tipper says he may. But I gave up on Tipper when she went after naughty song lyrics.

Gore/Obama -- to respond to your post -- well, it sure looks a hell of a lot better than the evil monsters we have in there now.

I still think Bill Moyers would be a demographically strong candidate.

[divineorder]

12. Before Dean I was for Gore 04

Not only because I wanted him to actually serve the term he was denied, but because of his intelligence and moral probity.

Gore has all of the experience needed for the job along with moral probity and and intelligence. He's more charismatic than people realize now because his experience has freed him of his dependence on other people's opinions.

Gore was tenative partly because he felt he had to cover Clinton's sins. A 2008 race has no such factor-people would be free to judge him as an individual more so than before. Plus a bruising primary race would definetly sharpen further his fighting experience.

People forget that Gore fought all the way to the Supreme Court-which was as far as he could realistically go. He had no assurance that even his own Dems would back him. They didn't during the recount, when Rendell, then DNC head, kept asking him to concede. Lieberman was trying to suck up, and people didn't go out into the streets. Plus, the Dems in the Senate were at 50/50 and had worked out some powersharing deal with the Republicans that allowed for some Committee chairs. Gore did not want to jeopardize that for a sure loss in Congress that would do nothing for install him or even force an investigation.

[saltpoint]

13. Interesting thoughts on President Gore.

(I still think Bush cheated in Florida!)

I could see him running again, but not winning. It might be a race between Gore and Frist -- two Tennesseans. It would leave me feeling that other candidates' newer visions were being passed up.

Gore has the pedigree and the chops. But I just don't think he has the appeal to win an election. That's less a criticism of Gore than of the voters in Oklahoma and Mississippi and North Dakota, who would vote GOP because Gore's intellect threatens them.

[bobbyboucher]

16. No Dem will win OK, MS, or ND.

All we need is Ohio and Tennessee.

I really think that many epople are going to realize that their obligation to back a war president is not only over, it was a mistake, and Gore might be just the ticket. Kind of like, let's see what he's got?

[saltpoint]

18. Probably a lot of people would like to see it.

After all, they elected him.

(I think you're right about those states we won't carry.)

[Rockerdem]

14. I was lying in bed thinking about what the USA would be with Pres Gore

It made all the sense in the world. What a pleasant place it wouod be. The economy would be better and there would be a much closer congress, maybe control of one House. We might still be in Iraq in some shape or form, but there wouldnt be so many preventable blunders.

Gore, if anything, was a competent leader. People that I know still have fond memories of his actions in office. Who knows, there might still be some sort of Reagan Nostalgia Effect in Reverse bubbling up by '08.

I could easily see myself being very enthusiastic about a Gore Re-Win in '08. A lot more for him than Kerry, and at least 50/50 versus HRC. Something to consider. A slam dunk if the VP was Howard Dean.

[Bombtrack]

19. Gore is a big fat douche

nuff said. He had no real interest in us winning in 04.