Jon Stewart has it right!

[fooj]

Wonders why Rumsfield isn't on trial for ordering torture...(applause)

[The Backlash Cometh]

1. Salon has just printed a scandal sheet of Bush's er...scandals.

Just completely unbelievable how crooked this Bush administration is, and all the media can do is blame Clinton. What a strange world we live in.

[brainshrub]

2. But, but, but... Clinton lied about sex in front of a Grand Jury!

Don't you see how serious that was! My God, you Liberuls are so ignorent.

[LittleClarkie]

5. Yes, but no doinkers were harmed in that lie

were they.

[brainshrub]

6. Yes they were! Clinton besmirched the presidency.

Jesus cried when Clinton lied.

[LittleClarkie]

8. And yet, Mr. Happy was still ... happy

Willy the one-eyed wonder worm reigned supreme!

[Pam-Moby]

3. Jon Stewart

is a very smart man. He is hits it dead on every time.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

4. Oh Lordy - Jon is cooking

Guest tonight is talking about the balls and parties this week as an ethics free zone this week. Brian Ross of ABC reports on corporate scandal and the corruption of money in Washington. Where has this guy been?

[fooj]

9. no kidding!

He actually looks like he enjoys screwing the shrub and his shrubbies! I'm loving this! Corporate scandal=corrupt $/Washington=Coronation! Nice way to connect the dots!:toast: Have one on me, Dem 4 Ever!

[tuvor]

7. NO FUCKING SPOILERS FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 11 PST!!!!!!!!!

Please and thanks. :)

[pbartch]

10. Some of don't have Dish Network or Cable

PLEASE POST ALL THE SPOILERS YOU WANT......Some of us want to hear Jon Stewart telling it...LIKE IT IS!

[tuvor]

12. Then they should say something in their subject line, like, oh, I dunno...

"spoiler," perhaps?

[fooj]

11. oops...hey I'm really sorry-

didn't think about time differences!

[tuvor]

13. Happens every night.

Don't worry 'bout it.

But if I catch you doing it again....OOH!

;)

[fooj]

19. thanks for the warning!!!!

Peace!:hi:

[wabeewoman]

14. Thanks for the post

I would have missed it thinking this was a holiday.

[progressiveright]

15. in all honesty

Ramsfeld didn't authorize torture that was going on in Abu Graib (beatings, rapes, murders, humiliation). It happened because of his negligence if anything, failure to prevent it from happening by doing nothing while he surely suspected that something like that was happening (providing the climate), and unfortunately voters didn't fire him along with Bush. He did authorize stuff like 'stress positions', sleep deprivation, and loud music, and he is quite open about that, its not criminal because pentagon basically looked around to see how they can torture people without it technically being torture (as it is defined in some internation and domestic regulations). Then again, you have to interrogate people somehow and it has to be extremely unpleasant, unless you hold the position that no enemy prisoner should be interrogated at all.

I have been hearing that there are several higher ranking officers, including intelligence, that had direct control and oversight over that prison will be charged as well.

One thing that nobody talks about is that many interrogators and intelligence people in Iraq prisons were privately contracted from various security corporations. This administration is truly insane, they really believe that if you privatise something it is good, they outsourced many CIA functions to corporations, and democrats need to start talking about how dangerous this kind of no-limit conservative ideology can be.

[magellan]

16. Rummy MORE than suspected

He knew. Because just like in every other case when members of this administration have claimed not to know something godawful was going on right under their noses, he never responded with the expected outrage -- just squirmed and made excuses. So let's add "We didn't know there were tortures going on" to these gems:

"We didn't know someone would fly a plane into a building."

"We didn't know the intelligence on WMD was faulty."

"We didn't know there would be an Iraqi insurgency."

Et cetera, ad nauseum.

You know, it doesn't take a genius to realize what BushCo DOES know is how to pass the buck. They're incapable of taking personal responsibility for anything that might take the shine off their halos.

[Bridget Burke]

17. Then--where does the buck stop?

Which officers have you been hearing about? When will they be charged? Will they reveal they made up these new methods of interrogation without orders from above? Do you have a link?

[gratuitous]

20. "It has to be extremely unpleasant"?

Says who? And who are these "enemy prisoners"? Were they actively fighting against their lawful oppressors? Or were they merely taken along in a general sweep of a neighborhood? I've certainly seen a lot of first-hand accounts from Iraqi families who have had a chance to talk to reporters about how the soldiers burst into their homes in the middle of the night to grab all the men in a house.

Did Rumsfeld specifically authorize specific torture of specific prisoners? Well, I don't think you could find any orders to that effect. But if a man stands on a loose snow shelf and begins stomping around and tossing lit sticks of dynamite over the edge, is it really so surprising that an avalanche ensues? Is he blameless for the deaths in the valley below the avalanche?

This is the essence of command: Responsibility goes all the way to the top. If you want to pick and choose what you're responsible for, stay out of leadership positions. Rumsfeld and his boss are responsible for everything that has happened in Iraq since March 2003. That's when they elected to take the nation over, and that's when their responsibility began. It can be argued that none of this would have happened had the Bush administration not invaded Iraq. It is irrefutable that all of this happened subsequent to that elective invasion.

[annabanana]

22. It was in the bowels of the Pentagon (Rummy's territory)

That the secret committee met to figure out ways to "legally" circumscribe those "quaint" Geneva Convention rules by re-defining "torture", and re categorizing prisoners to put them at the mercy of Bush, without any recourse whatsoever.

(Your post is riddled)

[0007]

18. Perhaps Jon can get the ball rolling? Someone has to wake

this sleeping giant.

[fooj]

21. I'm with you!

Rise Up America!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: