Why didn't Kerry get out of his chair and punch Condi in the face?

[zulchzulu]

What's wrong with him?

I thought Kerry was on our side.

He should have gotten out of his seat, spit a big looger on the floor, swung his arms in the air in a very erratic motion, flip the bird at the cameras, scream at the top of his lungs, yank on his crotch and then jump on the table and do a King Kong chest beating before he grinds his teeth and jumps off the table and pounces on Condi in her chair. Violently...like yunno...David Lynch movies.

Then he could grab her by her hair and put her on his lap and spank her backside until she screams for Cheney.

Why didn't he do that? What's wrong with him? I voted for him and he doesn't just go out and attack people and try to strangle them...just for little old me...we need people like that in the DNC...people that just do what they want...um...for America...or whatever.

[GRLMGC]

1. I don't know

He's such a Bushlite!

[emulatorloo]

2. He did everything but. . . .

:toast:

[cags]

3. Bwahahahahahahahahaha, I can't breathe hahahahaha

[CottonBear]

13. I second that "Bwahahahahahahahahaha!"

OMG! I feel like that too. I get so frustrated. That scene would make a really great SNL skit.

[marcologico]

4. Dean would have done it, Kos told me so n/.t

[KittyWampus]

16. And When The Media Replayed It Endlessly- It'd Be An Anti-Dean

Cosnpiracy.

[arcos]

59. You are obsessed with Dean, aren't you? nt

[marcologico]

67. I hear he's big in Florida but didn't they go for Buchanan in 2000? n/t

[XemaSab]

72. Good one.

n/t

[marcologico]

75. thanks

:toast:

[The Sheik]

5. Oh Boy.

If Kerry did that every psuedo-feminist woman from the League of Conservative Women to the W stands for Women crowd would be out there with squirt guns. Not a chance.

[Blue_In_AK]

6. Umm - sarcasm??

Much appreciated. Wish the Kerry bashers would SHUT THE F*** UP.

[NoPasaran]

7. Sarcasm, right?

It's hard to tell sometimes.

[JohnKleeb]

9. yes

[Pirate Smile]

8. Skull and Bones, Skull and Bones!!!!!!!! He is one of them!!!!!!

LOL!

[Lizzie Borden]

10. Well, it's certainly what I would have done.

n/t

[Still_Loves_John]

11. LOL! That was beautiful

It seems like exactly what some here are asking of him.

[Dehumanizer]

12. Totally, Kerry's a DINO.

A sad day for democracy.

[seabeyond]

14. i LOVE you, lol lol lol you are so funny

i am not kidding, this morning all through the day there were only like a couple of us agaisnt a million dissing kerry and dems, lol lol. was thinking, where are all the people that actually like their party,. it was a hard day and into night. everyone must have been at work. i am having a blast hearing from you all tonight

[zulchzulu]

23. U in DC?

I'm at 4 Points



1201 K Street N.W.

[seabeyond]

27. oh how lovely, if i were i would buy you a drink

good for you and have a blast. let us know how things are going

[KittyWampus]

15. We Must Destroy The Democratic Party To Save It

Democrats who refuse to do a Kamikaze run on the GOP are not honorable.

If they will not shoot their wad prematurely and on demand they are traitors.

[sellitman]

32. I wonder.....

How much more "destroyed" should we be? It's a one party government. Doesn't get much worse than that.

[noamnety]

17. Yes he was lame

Didn't even challenge her to a duel. WTF is his problem?!!111!!!

[zann725]

51. I agree...totally! Like he already had one of those "chips" in.

And I'm NOT Kerry-bashing...I'm just telling the truth. Boxer did a great job...she DID her job...which was to speak her mind, and question Condi's many, many mistakes and lies.

All I ask is that Kerry perform equivalent, or up-to "par" with Babs. But he didn't at all. And you could tell it by the look on Condi's face during the Bab's challenge...vs. the Kerry suck-up. Condi seethed and gritted her teeth throughout her encounter with Babs. But when Kerry was 'up-to-bat,' Condi was all smiles, her eyes all glowing...like a best friend. And at the end of the hearings today, Kerry even went over to suck up some moreand shake hands with her. Yuck! I love ya, John, I do...but PALESSSSE! Be a Democrat... if you remember how.

[Blue_In_AK]

60. Excuse me, John Kerry and Barbara Boxer

are two different people with two different styles. Please let them be themselves and deal with these issues in their own individual ways.

[noamnety]

65. Dude, I think you missed what the thread is about

:)

[WildEyedLiberal]

18. I WOULD HAVE DONE IT

BECAUSE I LOVE AMERICA!

KERRY IS A PIECE OF DLC CRAP.

[GRLMGC]

19. You forgot the fifteen exclamation marks

with 1s

[WildEyedLiberal]

20. Oh my God I did!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111

Not to mention the shit grammar.

Okay:

I WOULD OF DONE IT!!!!!!! I WOULD OF HIT HER IN THE FACE BUT I GUESS KERRY DOESN'T CARE ABOUT DEMOCRACY??????????????????????

HE'S A PIECE OF DLC CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111

[GRLMGC]

21. Perfect nt

[Sydnie]

22. He could have

leaned over the table, pointed his finger gun at her and asked "Do you feel lucky punk? Well, do you?" That would have been standing up for democracry in my eyes. And if that didn't work, then revert to zulchzulu plan.

BWAHHHHHHH!! Floaty hearts :loveya: for you zulchzulu!

[Renew Deal]

24. lol, you can sub in Obama's name in that too.

Some here attacked him for "soft" questions.

[jonnyblitz]

25. now i have to wipe diet coke off my monitor. LMFAO!!!

:wow:

[Withywindle]

26. Bwahahahahah!!!!

I guess that just about says everything that needs to be said, don't it? :thumbsup:

[leesa]

28. Or he could at least vote against her...but he's not sure...

[jjtss]

29. He didn't punch her because...

He is sane rational and has self control. The exact opposite of G.Brish. He just proves every day that he would have been a better president. Lots of people are going to regret their vote!!!!!!

[Der Blaue Engel]

30. Oh, ow, ow, stop! ROTFLMAOPMP!!!!!

And if he had punched Condi:

"TOO LITTLE TOO LATE! WHERE WAS HIS PUNCHING AND FOAMING AT THE MOUTH DURING THE CAMPAIGN?? I DEMAND PUNCHING! AND! FOAMING! AT! THE! MOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PUNCH! FOAM! PUNCHFOAMMMMMMMMMM!!!!! AUGHRHFHAFHFHGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAllllllllffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WildEyedLiberal]

34. Hahahahahahahahaha

Nice choke-gurgle at the end.

[JohnKleeb]

31. This almost made me wanna come out of exile

[New Earth]

33. LMAO

i literally laughed my ass off, thank you!

[leftofthedial]

35. you mean he didn't?

odd . . .

[Dr Fate]

36. Well, if he had it would have made Rice's nomination a national story...

as it is, there is nothing of note in DUs own LBN, much less news that "swing voters" watch.

None of the DEMS on this board who want to see some action wanted Kerry to do what you said literally, but perhaps metaphorically.

If DEMS want to get "on the TV", then they are going to have to get into "hot" confrontations and use strong language.

I think your post is an appeal to the ridiculous, designed to make all of us hard working DEMS who want to see some FIGHT and some new media strategies look silly.

We are not silly, we are RIGHT. We were RIGHT about WMDs, and we were RIGHT about the foolish strategy of not bluntly attacking Bush/media.

Go ahead- keep following the model that lost us the last 3 election cycles- mabey someday voters will respond to "nuances"...

Kerry did fine today, but he said nothing that will make it to headlines, or fire up the Republican media into defensive mode (thus, talking about it)

[Withywindle]

37. Democratic Lunchbreak Huddle

KERRY: She needs to be punched in the face. That'll get us on the news alright...might even make those folks at DU lay off the Skull & Bones crap for a while so I can stop crying myself to sleep at night....ooh, I can't wait....no, shit, I can't do it, they'll call me sexist.

(looks pointedly at BOXER)

BOXER: Oooh, you're right...Our "base" is calling us spineless. They need to see some violence right away so they know we're serious...damn, I can't do it either, they'll call me racist.

(looks pointedly at OBAMA)

OBAMA: Love to, but nope. Freshman, remember?

(looks pointedly at DODD)

DODD: That brings us back to the same problem.

FEINGOLD: Let's ALL do it.

SARBANES: Now that's what I call a coalition of the willing!

[Dr Fate]

38. That was funny, but what will be funnier....

...is when the "wacky" DEM base decides not to open their check-books, knock on doors & man phone banks in 2006.

I hope the moderates & swing-voters like hard work.

[GRLMGC]

39. and you know what'll be REALLY funny?

When there are no more Democrats in office because being right is better than winning elections!

[CTLawGuy]

40. if we can't be right

whats the point of winning?

why don't we just nominate who the republicans nominate? It will ENSURE that we win.


The OP has a right to his/her opinion, but I think that is a conterproductive exaggeration of what people who call for standing up to Republicans want.

We don't want our politicians to hurt people or be raving loonies, but we want them to be unafraid to speak out in favor of our values.

I missed Kerry's questioning today, but I'm sure he asked some very good questions.

[GRLMGC]

42. I see your point

The Dems should stand up and be heard. They haven't been doing that for that past few years. Constructive criticism is awesome. The poster is just making fun of those who don't ever add to the discourse. The ones who say "Fuck you Kerry, waahhhhhh. You let me down. WAAHHHH"
Now, where's the constructive criticism in there?

[CTLawGuy]

45. I agree those aren't constructive

those are people just venting... that happens on this board on occasion.

[Telly Savalas]

71. What's the point of being right if we can't win?

I believe that we should slash the size of our military in half, insitute single-payer universal health insurance and auto insurance, legalize gay marriage in all 50 states, nationalize all utilities, decriminalize most illicit drugs, slash highway funds in favor of a tenfold increase in funding for public transit, institute living wage laws, and implement a comprehensive national child care plan. In my eyes there isn't a single candidate who is right on all these issues that has any thing remotely resembling a chance to win. So should I completely abstain from politics? I prefer to think that by compromising and throwing my support behind a coaltion that includes many mainstream elements, I have the best chance for seeing positive changes.

The Democrats can certainly be disappointing sometimes, but there are a lot of people here who seem to delight in making a big deal out of small matters. What exactly did they want John Kerry to do at the hearings? Are they worried that when Joe Sixpack gets home from work and reads the transcripts of the hearings online that he'll get a distorted view of Ms. Rice because Sen. Kerry failed to ask the proper questions?

If the Democrats want to give Bush a friendly pat on the ass for encouragement when he tries to dismantle Social Security or implement a flat tax or something, then I'll join the chorus of shrill cries. But for Chrissake, it's pretty much a given that he's going to nominate fuckups for his cabinet posts and as a minority party there's not a lot we can do to stop it, unlike the aforementioned issues where with discipline within the party and proper manipulation of moderate Republicans we can mount an effective fight.

[Dr Fate]

43. Like 2000, 2002 & 2004? Yeah- lets win some elections.

We played along w/ Bush media and pretended that Bush was not stealing elections or lying about WMDs or (insert issue here, Bush has certainly lied about it). Look where it got us.

We are well on our way to not having DEMS in office with this "strategy" of pretending we can work w/ liars & criminals.

Ask Tom Daschele & Max Cleland how well the "lets work with Bush instead of telling the truth about him" worked.

Being "right" is what its about for those w/ values- and guess what- "swing voters" actually like people who fight and are right about their values.

[GRLMGC]

44. Whos' working w/ Bush

Kerry wasn't working w/ Bush today. Oh wait, if he's not foaming at the mouth he's not fighting hard enough.

[Dr Fate]

46. Will the media be playing his talking points for the rest of the week?

And even if they did, would those precious "swing voters" even understand what he was talking about?

It's not about "foaming at the mouth"- its about telling the blunt truth and stirring up controversy- its the only way the media will cover it.

Look- I'm not here to butt heads w/ you- I campaigned my ass off for Kerry- an honorable guy. I've also helped organize for DEMS in 3 states, and personally raised over $12,000 for the DNC. If I dont see some fighting, then I WILL NOT be back- you can take that for what its worth, or you can right me off as a "Kerry bashing conspiracy nut." I could care less.

I just think too many DEMS are bascially afraid of controversy and they seem to be afraid to be blunt and matter-of-fact about the lies & crimes of Bush.

I hope Kerry votes against confirming Rice- or would that be "too Radical" and cause Rove & the media to be "mean to us?"

To answer your question, anyone who confirms a lying criminal like Condi is indeed "working with Bush."

Oh- dont tell me- its "strategy"- its "giving them more rope to hang themselves with" its "So we dont confuse the swing voters" "its the medias fault" "they will send us Anthrax if we fight"

Blah blah blah. I'm through with excuses.

[GRLMGC]

47. Did I say I wanted him to vote to confirm?

I certainly he he doesn't vote to confirm. Don't accuse me of wanting to "work with Bush". I don't care if the media is mean to us. Never did I say that I didn't want the Dems to be more aggressive. I'm glad Boxer is aggressive because that's her style. That's not every else's style and that doesn't make them a lesser Democrat.

[Dr Fate]

49. Oh dear- I never said any of that.

I never accused YOU of working w/ Bush- I correctly said that any DEM who confirms the lying criminal Condi is "working w/ Bush."

Not being agressive against liars & criminals does not not make one a "lesser Dem", I guess- but in todays media climate, it makes one an out-of-work Democrat.

Just ask Mr. Tom "I think Bush is an honest man" Daschele.

I'm done arguing w/ you- I think DEMS need to be BLUNT, agressive & truthful about Bush's lies & crimes. I think we would have a new President if we had been doing that for the past 4 years. I dont think its unwise or radical to tell the truth.

[GRLMGC]

50. Because I said that it was unwise to tell the truth

Nice way to pull something out of thin air since I never suggested that.

[Dr Fate]

52. No- you just equate it with "foaming at the mouth."

and laugh along with the others at us who honestly think that we need to get blunt & agressive instead of making excuses for the "strategy" that has lost us 3 election cycles.

And I thought you suggested that being "right" (AKA telling the truth) would lose us elections. I thought you suggested that- forgive me if I was wrong. What were you saying then?

I'm sure we agree on several issues-but I'm willing to call truce w/ you for tonight.

[GRLMGC]

54. Fine

I have to go to bed anyway. When I said being "right" I meant being self-righteous which is an unattractive quality in anyone, left or right. Also, Kerry doesn't have the same aggressiveness that Barbara Boxer has. It doesn't make him an awful person. Barbara Boxer, fabulous as she is, works in a different way.

[Dr Fate]

56. Good enough friend- see you next time. n/t

n/t

[poe]

41. as a relatively new DUer.....

this thread was easily the most highlarious, cantakerous and spirited me eyes have seen. Good thing JFK didn't grab the hair as his hand woulda slipped right through the lube and momentum woulda propelled him forward and Leesa woulda given him that Dominatrix crotch kick and Kerry's lack of balls woulda went up to his enormous thorax thusly creating even more fear in the livers of the lily putins.

[Sleepless In NY]

48. Kerry didn't have to do a thing, Boxer took care of it for him

sad but true. I know we mustn't ever criticize Kerry. Yet we want a change in the way our democratic leadership is going, and yada, yada, yada. Kerry had a golden opportunity today, and he did alright, nothing earthshaking. Boxer, quite literally, beat him to the punch. And I think its quite alright to acknowledge that fact & give her the praise she richly deserves.

[LittleClarkie]

61. Don't forget Feingold

I'm not seeing it as a competition though. It was a team event. They all did well.

"We mustn't ever criticize Kerry." Nah, but I'd rather the snark was left at home.

I hope we aren't anointing Mahatma Babs, though, or the first time she votes for something not to our liking, she may go the way of Kerry. I would hate to see that kind of on again, off again relationship.

Say, if she votes for Condi's confirmation, for example.

I don't want her support to hinge on just one thing. Not good to put anyone on a pedestal At the moment, some are acting as if she is the only Dem Senator. She isn't. It's a team sport.

[NightOwwl]

53. Welcome to DU poe...

:hi:

Kerry's balls ran away on November 2 to live happily ever after with Barbara Boxer.

[Laurab]

55. A very good question

HE LET ME DOWN !!!!!!!!!!!lll (Was that the right way?)

I was having such a good time laughing at this thread until I saw a couple of the posts arguing with even making fun of the arguing.

Dammit - the dems did a GREAT job today, and of course the woman is going to be confirmed, but they're putting her through hell in the process. And how many soundbites do you think the msm would put out no matter WHAT the dems said? They're finally fighting the assholes, and people are STILL whining.


Anyway, I think Kerry has far too much class to spit a big looger on the floor....

[Dr Fate]

57. "finally fighting the assholes, and people are STILL whining."

"Finally" being the operative word. We have no idea if they will keep the heat up on Bush unless we keep it on them.

I can totally understand why other DUers like me, who busted their tails in the election are "whining."

We have a right to complain and make sure they "finally" continue to fight these fuckers!

I suppose I'm being defensive, but I'm a solid, very involved, active DEM who has been busting tail, and I dont like being called a whiner just b/c I'm not making excuses and lending blind loyalty anymore.

DEMS were great today- a good start- but I want more.

[Laurab]

58. Well I didn't bust my tail

but I contributed money I didn't have, did what I could, and was heartbroken with the results. Sometimes things don't happen in my timeline. Sometimes they can't. I want more too, but I've never had any doubt that there was going to be more, and I've never lost faith. It's not blind loyalty to me, it's faith. I think they are two very different things.

[Dr Fate]

62. Keep the faith baby!

Hey-somtimes its all we got! :)

[Dr Fate]

63. Anybody remember Clintons Impeachment, or the Swiftboat smears?

Or the smearing of Al Gore in 2000?

Hows that for a "punch in the face" for ya?

And they beat us too. Didnt they?

[angel54321]

64. ROFLMAO.....Your a hoot!! n/t

[loyalsister]

66. Which brings us to

the reason why guys dread running against women in elections.
They look bad when they attack. Boxer had to be the attack dog this time.
In the MO governor's race, they didn't attack McCaskill herself in the primary or the general. They went after her husband.
No dignified political figure gambles that the public will tolerate a man "hitting" (even just metaphorically) a woman publicly anymore.

[zulchzulu]

68. Wait! Kerry voted against Condi. He must be trying to trick us again

He should have voted FOR her. I voted for Kerry and now I will do anything I can to discredit him in any imbecilic way I can...

He should have voted for Condi! He should have voted for Condi! He should have voted for Condi! He should have voted for Condi!

Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!

I wanted him to vote for her so bad so I could...could....could....

Waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!

[Arkana]

69. Cause he's a DLC pansy and should just defect now!!!!

Just kidding. The sarcasm is well put, though...I'm sick of Kerry-bashing around here.

[Zhade]

70. I think you're very confused.

He should have gotten out of his seat, spit a big looger on the floor, swung his arms in the air in a very erratic motion, flip the bird at the cameras, scream at the top of his lungs, yank on his crotch and then jump on the table and do a King Kong chest beating before he grinds his teeth and jumps off the table and pounces on Condi in her chair.

These are B*SH'S actions, not Kerry's. :D

Kerry voted no, that works for me, and I'm no fan of his.

[WI_DEM]

73. you're right!! Why didn't he do all of that?

what a sellout.

[no name no slogan]

74. Punch in the face, hell. He shoulda kicked her in the nutz!!!

If he REALLY opposed her, he would have kicked her square in the nutz!!! What a half-assed display of opposition he put up! "Only" voting against the confirmation.

What a freakin panzy. </sarcasm>