Who backed Bush? Martin Frost.

[reprehensor]

Piling on Frost

by kos
Tue Jan 18th, 2005 at 16:36:06 PST

Holy shit. Look what Annatopia found: a news report from Dallas' Channel 11 (CBS affiliate), in Windows Media Player format.

You have to see it to believe it. The short version? Frost is trying to hide the fact he's a Democrat.

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To be clear, I don't care what Democrats might have to say to get elected in deep red districts. But if you spend a year distancing yourself from the Democratic Party and sucking up to Bush, Hastert and Hutchinson, then you have no business trying to run the Democratic Party.

I don't care if someone is a moderate, liberal or conservative Democrat. You could be any of those things and still be a partisan Democrat.

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Dean for DNC chair!!

[orpupilofnature57]

1. That's why that ambiguous word (progressive) blur rs lines, LIBERAL

should be the only theology of a PAID to be Democrat, progress for it's own sake will reduce, in the sense of being reduced to a republican.That's how guy's like sam nunn, SLID through, moderate my ass.

[Maestro]

2. I remember those ads

and Martin Frost represented me for years until the Delay rigged gerrymandering that ocurred here in Texas. What I see is a man in a very nasty fight to win as a democrat in a very Red state. He was showing that he can work with rethuglicans and still uphold dem values. If you look at his voting record he has done well for dems. You might not have liked that ad, but when put in basically a no-win situation because his district is now predominately rethuglican you have to do what you have to do to get elected. Hell, he destroyed that jerk Sessions in the 4 debates here in Dallas, but he still lost. I don't see him as abandoning the party. I see him as trying to show that he can work with prominent rethuglicans and is not the divisive person that Sessions is. Just my .02.

[Rowdyboy]

3. I support Dr Dean for party chair but threads like this are EXACTLY why

I turned against Dean in the primaries. Some of his supporters seem to think the only way to build Dean up is to tear his opponents down. Its not a smart strategy-it just adds to the impression that Dean is a negative, divisive force.

Dean's greatest negative, IMO. is this desire of some of his backers to smear everyone who isn't Dean. Martin Frost is a damn fine man who fought hard to continue representing thinking Texans. Sadly, it takes a majority to win elections, and thinking Texans aren't in the majority. Frost isn't the man we need right now, Dean is. But I deeply resent insinuations that Frost is some kind of Bush enabler.

Gov Dean is much better served by his supporters who point out his strengths, not tear down his competition.

[robbedvoter]

6. Excellent point. I am neutral in this - but increasingly disturbed

about the thuggish ways returning. I am more and more uncomfortable with Dean with each thread like this I am reading.

[Mend]

4. Why is it so hard

to demand a certain level of behavior from our Democratic leaders? Those commercials are not okay with me. I am not tearing this man down, I am sorry he lost, his voting record is wonderful. But please listen to what many of us are saying: we want Democrats with balls who are proud to be Democrats and say so, will stand on the party platform and be unwaivering in promoting our beliefs., whether in tough races or not. Is that too much to ask for the Chair of the party?

[Adelante]

5. Frost Lost

After his district was shredded by DeLay, and he ran in a new district that was 60% Rethug, and he didn't need to do it. He did it for the Democratic Party and forced the GOP to spend $5.5 Million in a single district. Sessions voted against cockpit doors on airplanes and such, why wouldn't Frost in his particular part of the country play this up for the voters? He was attacking Pete Sessions in these ads, not aligning himself with anybody but those who voted the same way he did. For a Red State Dem, Frost's voting record is more than respectable. This isn't a horrible monster, this is a Democrat who was in a tough spot. We can look in all candidates' records and find something to highlight in the worst light, if we try hard enough.

I'm for Dean for DNC chair, but this shit is stupid.