Bush approval rating at 44% on Inauguration Day

[imenja]

Inauguration Day, January 20. Bush's approval ratings are only 44%, while 54% of Americans disapprove of his job performance.
This has got to be a record low for newly a reelected or incoming president.

Rasmussen Reports has changed the way they report Bush's approval rating. Rather than polling whether voters somewhat or strongly approve or disapprove approve, they now provide only two options: approve or disapprove. The numbers for Jan. 21 remain the same:
44% approve, 54% disapprove.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

[Pam-Moby]

1. yes and I feel it will get even lower... n/t

[MadisonProgressive]

26. It is lower!

"Saturday January 22, 2005--Forty-three percent (43%) of American adults approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President. Fifty-five percent (55%) disapprove."

[Angelique]

146. I still am amazed that he is as popular as it appears he is..

How can 44% of our neighbors think he should be President.. beats me all to hell.. :/

[bluestateguy]

2. By 2008, he'll be in the 30's

There may be some punctuated moments of increased ratings for him, but there is now a base of 40% of the American public that hates him and has tuned him out. If his numbers ever clear 60% again, I'll be amazed.

He'll suffer the same fate as other two term presidents who became overambitious, cocky, arrogant and misread their mandate from the public. By 2006, other Republicans will be jockeying for position for 2008; senior staff will start leaving by 2007, and by 2008 he will look old, exhausted and irrelevant.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

33. I'll bet an all day sucker Chimpy will be in the 30s before the

end of this year...or lower. King A$$hole needed the "evangelicals" (parenthesis because we know there is nothing religious or faithful about this bunch) and the moderate republicans to win this election. You can't please two masters. So far he is tap dancing around trying not to piss off either contingent and it is getting harder and harder every day. The moderates know there is another election cycle just over the hill and it will be CYA time but the holy-than-thou bunch will call for a jihad if Bush deviates one iota from the campaign BS. Golly gee, world domination, convert the universe to Christian Islam, continue the wrecking of the economy, repay all your corporate donors and try not to tick off the voters - so many people who will gladly go for your throat if you disappoint them. When you start in the hole with a 55% disapproval you already have a pretty deep hole - so dig away Blivet, dig away.

Grab some popcorn and your favorite beverage, put you feet up, this is going to be the best drama around for the next few years.

[DUBYASCREWEDUS]

81. AMEN TO THAT!

And just think, no Clinton to blame! It is going to be a great show!

[ginnyinWI]

92. he's already backpeddling on promises to evangelicals

he gave them to understand that he would take a stand on the gay marriage issue--now says he won't be doing anything about pushing for a ban on gay marriage. Pass the popcorn, watch the show...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

119. Well, Thank God for that. Something good, actually...n/t

[Clark2008]

130. Yep... the minute he starts talking more about taking away

Social Security and drafting our children to fight his religious oil wars, he'll drop like a rock.

Therefore, if both these things happen this year, he'll be in the 30s by the end of the year. However, it will certainly be before 2008.

So, the question is: how can we use this to our advantage in 2006 and in getting him impeached? Cheney's vastly more evil, but more frail, as well. He may not be able to handle the shock. By 2006 - with Chafee, Snowe, Hagel and other moderate Republicans possibly jumping ship to become indies or Dems, and with the elections, Dems may have at least a voting majority (who would be speaker of the House for the Dems? Wouldn't that be a hoot?!)

Blivet, indeed!

[imenja]

61. I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped into the 20s at some point . n/t

[rpannier]

103. I would be surprised

He's got a core group of supporters that will always keep him hovering around 40%.

[imenja]

131. you may be right

But if Iraq continues to spiral out of control, they may have to change their minds at some point.

[obiwan]

143. Yup. The laws of evolution...

...and the limited GOP gene pool, will see to that.

[Betty]

75. If he isn't impeached by then

I really wonder if he'll make it to 2008.

[ClayZ]

128. He will be doing the PERP walk before then!

http://www.jimhinde.com/default.asp

Doin' the Perp Walk
2004 Jim Hinde
http://www.jimhinde.com/default.asp

World leaders are trying to beseech Bush.

All of my friends are trying to defeat Bush.

I’ve even seen some signs that tell me to impeach Bush.

That ain’t gonna cut it for me.

I won’t be happy ‘til I see him do the perp walk.

Handcuffs and leg irons swingin’ to the perp walk.

Bright orange jumpsuit, stylin’ for the perp walk,

On his merry way to cell block D.

He raided my National Treasury.

Invaded a nation’s sovereignty.

That’s why I won’t be happy ‘til I see him do the perp walk

Exiting the White House, shuffling to the perp walk.

Live on TV, smirkin’ to the perp walk.

That’s democracy for me.

Lest we neglect the Bush Administration,

That gang hell bent for world domination.

Live at The Hague for their humiliation.

That is what I’d truly like to see.

‘Cause I won’t be happy ‘til I see ‘em do the perp walk.

Rove and Rummy marching to the perp walk.

Colin and Johnny dancing to the perp walk,

Getting finger printed on TV.

They acted preeminently,

Searching for those WMDs.

And now I won’t be happy ‘til I see ‘em do the perp walk.

Condoleezza Rice practicing the perp walk.

Bunker bust Cheney and make him do the perp walk.

That’s democracy for me.

But we won’t stop there, with this administration.

Set a precedent for future generations

To not be messin’ with the Peoples reputation.

And that’s the way it oughta be.

If you mess with us you get to do the perp walk.

Don’t matter if you’re rich you get to do the perp walk.

Especially Richard Nixon should have had to do the perp walk.

It’s what we call equality.

That’s the hallmark of grass roots liberty,

And U.S. Constitutionality.

So you Supreme Court Judges ain’t immune to do the perp walk.

Senators and Congressmen take turns to do the perp walk.

This whole damn government may learn to do the perp walk.

That’s democracy for me.

[obiwan]

144. Good luck! This guy will ignore the law...

...the same way a turtle will ignore the "do not cross" signs on the highway.

Hopefully with the same results.

[Blue_State_Elitist]

137. All it takes is another 9/11

and he is back up in the 80's...

[Patchuli]

145. Maybe not

because another attack allowed on U.S. soil would ~again~ show
* to be asleep at the wheel, just like on 9/11...

[sonicx]

3. the problem is...too few Americans vote...

This is a poll of all Americans, while last year's approval polls were of voters only. In this poll, it seems that adding non-voters brings Bush's approval down.

Our 2004 turnout was the highest in 30 years, but it's still worse than 'bad' turnout in a Canadian election.

[imenja]

4. true, but his numbers were higher on election day

Though still not above 50. He's gone down since.

[zann725]

10. ...so they SAID. Just so we wouldn't suspect...a 'mandate' Shrub win.

I personally feel he was closer to 30% then AND now.

If this "manufactured" corporate poll says 44%, you can bet it's nicely plumped. 30's about my guess, and THAT'S being generous!

[imenja]

11. according to this same poll I'm citing here

So if you believe 44 you'll need to believe the 51-52 percent on election day. It's the same source. As I noted above, however, Rasmussen used to differentiate between strongly and somewhat approve or disapprove. As a result, their approval ratings were always higher than others. Now they've narrowed it to approve or disapprove. People now have to choose between two rather than four options, so Bush's overall approval ratings calculate lower.

[sandnsea]

142. Likely voters

It's right in the article. We all know how they distort the likely voter statistic. But if we'd had polls from ALL Americans last year, the public would have had a better perception of what Americans really thought of Bush. And that perception does matter. A handful of bandwagon voters could have easily shifted the whole thing.

"During 2004, reports on the President Job Approval were based upon surveys of Likely Voters."

[DemBones DemBones]

29. True, but perhaps a majority actually voted against him.

I will never be able to trust election results again. 2000 was an eye-opener and I've learned a lot since then about people in power.

[DieboldMustDie]

77. Our turnout would have been higher...

had it not been for voter suppression. :grr:

[RafterMan]

5. Why, I wonder?

He hasn't done anything worse than usual recently. Maybe some buyer's remorse?

[imenja]

6. $40 million on that spectacle

While soldiers go without proper armour in Iraq. I also doubt people are very happy with his Social Security scheme.

[RafterMan]

12. Social Security might be it

If the torture didn't get them, I doubt the $40 mil would.

But you could be on to something with Social Security. I'd forgotten that.

[Aviation Pro]

32. Bush's proximity....

...to the third rail of Social Security is making a lot of GOP members of Congress nervous. If he touches it, and gets someone to write a bill, then expect the Democrats to retake Congress in 2006. The first order of business of course will be the impeachment of the President (and won't that be fun to watch as the arguments over "process" and "impeachment managers" start over again).

[imenja]

41. Bill Thomas: Social Security reform a "Dead Horse"

Bill Thomas, the Republican chair of the Ways and Means committee, has already declared Bush's SS scheme a "dead horse." This is a powerful member of Bush's own party. Republicans are seriously divided on SS Reform, while Democrats are united behind stopping it.

Excerpt from Jan 20, NYT article:

"Mr. McCrery's remarks on possibly raising the payroll tax echoed a call on Tuesday by Representative Bill Thomas, the California Republican who is chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, for a broader approach. He had warned that Mr. Bush's goal was in danger of falling victim to partisan "trench warfare" and urged lawmakers to think "outside the box."

Mr. Thomas also warned that Mr. Bush's initial proposal might become a "dead horse." But when asked a few minutes later whether Mr. Bush's plan would be "dead on arrival," Mr. Thomas emphatically said no. His goal, he said, was to pass a bill in "five or six months."

Mr. Thomas and other Republican leaders said they could not pass a Social Security bill without Democratic support, and Democrats have promised to block any measure to divert payroll taxes to private retirement accounts."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/20/politics/20social.html

[autorank]

84. Great vision -- we'll have Byrd prosecute him when it gets to the Senate.

*, you're going down!!!

[Gloria]

96. Randi Rhodes keeps saying we can get rid of Bush in two years...which

means we have to focus on the midterms to retake a bunch of seats. That should be our goal. 2008 is too far off, the really important thing now is 2006

[intheflow]

35. Also his staunch support for Torturer Gonzales

as his most reasonble cabinet member, Colin Powell, is out and replaced by Condi Rice, the ultimate yes-man-in-women's-clothing. There are so many reasons for the approval ratings t go down, it's hard to pick any one cause. :shrug:

[chelaque liberal]

106. Another reason to distrust the supposed election results.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

7. Good news, in my book.

Watching C-Span coverage of the Inaugural Parade on Thursday afternoon with my husband, we both agreed that the protestors booing of Bush definitely drowned out his supporters cheers until he got into the "Green Zone" in DC and walked with Pickles for what looked like about 500 feet in front of the Bushbots.

Maybe I'm being too optimistic here, but I really do believe to quote Bob Dylan; "the times they are a changin".

Chimpy overplayed his hand on Thursday. The only thing that worries me is this: What will he do to change this...


:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:

[fooj]

14. walked 1/2 block--my husband said they would have been better off

staying in the car. They looked like idiots! Worked well for us!!! (my husband is a rare repub...he has a heart and a soul!) Yet ANOTHER REPUB WHO VOTED FOR KERRY!!!!! Go figure.

[Spazito]

21. The Canadian news reports commented that...

bush REFUSED to get out of the car until he was in the most protected area in front of the WH and then only walked a very short distance. The coverage of the inauguration up here was very good, the protesters received good coverage and the cost of the inauguration was always prefaced by 'very lavish'. It was not very flattering coverage for the usurper.

[gademocrat7]

19. We can hope

The times are changing. What a disgrace that parade was. Why did they need a loud speaker announcing him at every turn?? Like no one knew who was in the charade???? he has got to go.

[liveoaktx]

24. Made clips of just the protests because the Boos were so great!

Turn your back

Closeups and chants

[WorseBeforeBetter]

141. Thank you!

I didn't have the stomach to watch ANY of the coronation - those clips were just right.

[Al-CIAda]

99. 9-11 x 2

[ashling]

8. Such a mandate - sheesh!

:puke::puke: :puke:::puke::puke: :puke:

[zann725]

9. 44%...just about where it REALLY was on Election Day...before

all those "doctored" Exit Polls, and Diebold craziness!

Not my President!

[fooj]

13. If you think about all of the people who stood up on Jan 20th...

and the level of determination, courage and true patriotism displayed that day all over this country- Wow! The bleachers set up for ALL THE SHRUB SUPPORTERS WERE SPARSELY FILLED! Where did all those party faithful go? Did the kazillion religious zealots they said registered dare to miss the CORONATION? Hmmmm....Jeers overpowered cheers and anyone in those limos saw exactly how things are out here in the real world. What cowards they are. How shameful to have such a security force to PROTECT you from the people you are supposed to lead! And to squander all that $ simply to protect your own interests! If they don't think that people in this country saw that plain as day on Thursday...they are crazier and more deluded than I thought! His approval rating is just about where his voting % total should have been. 51% my ass! Didn't look CLOSE to 51% on 1-20!

[tanyev]

18. Apparently, quite a few of them

got stuck waiting in the security lines their Glorious Leader felt he needed.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1172867
Protesters, Long Lines Spoiled Party for Some

Saturday, January 22, 2005; Page A01

Some people who had wonderful tickets for the inauguration never reached their seats because of the lines at security.

Some shuddered at the protesters' shouts and scrapped or shortened their festivities.

And some said although they'd traveled across the country, the chaotic combination led them to settle for a view of the inauguration from in front of a TV.

Awwwww, such a tragic tale.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

57. The approval rating on election day is slightly higher than the...

vote total. Bush had an average approval rating of 46% on 11/02/2004.

[theresistance]

15. I can't believe 44% support him!

[Leilani]

16. It's frustrating as hell

because we should have beaten him soundly!

He should have lost by 10% at least.

What a lost opportunity.

[lancdem]

55. It was a huge opportunity lost

That's why I'm dubious about Kerry running again in 2008. I'm not so sure he deserves another chance after failing to take advantage of this one.

[robbedvoter]

It's a lost victory. A sound lost victory. yeay, Kerry!

[radfringe]

17. keep in mind

his numbers were in the toilet on 9/10/2001 -- but a terrorist attack changed all of that

[Ell09]

20. Does this condemn the media or our campaign more?

I feel like this poll is just an awakening of the general public. On electron day something like 40% of Bush voters in Ohio believed that the War in Iraq was in retaliation for the events of 9/11. Could it be that people are just finally figuring out that we're in Iraq based on misleading information, and now there's basically no way to leave gracefully? The National Media sure swept it under the rug quickly when the Bush Administration FINALLY admitted that there were no WMD's in Iraq about a week ago. What did that HUGE story get a one day media cycle? Compare that to how much coverage the media is still giving the Dan Rather story.

The other side to this coin is that our campaign did a horrible job of getting out the facts and that's why we lost. I would say that it's tough to get out your side of the issue when all 3 cable news outlets don't just slant right, but are blatantly right wing.

This is good news, but it also ticks me off at the same time. This pathetic approval rating doesn't matter at all right now. In four years we have to play this game again, and it's been proven that they can beat us with an absolute joke of a candidate. I think most of the blame goes to the media for adopting Bush rhetoric (War on Terra, etc), but the leadership in our party should also be completely embarrassed by the job they did.

[NJCher]

45. stop with the "beat us" talk

They stole this election. They stole the 2000 election.

There's a world of difference between "stole" and "beat."


Cher

[robbedvoter]

107. It condemns Diebold.

[LiberalinNC]

22. Social Security WILL make it go further down!

Generally most people don't like to "speak out" until it hits them where it hurts, their pocketbooks!

[imenja]

27. My guess is it will drop into the 20s

especially when people see elections are not going to transform Iraq and that Bush is determined to give our hard earned social security money to Wall Street.

[robbedvoter]

23. the 11 million Martians that voted for him took off

[jmcon007]

25. Who are these 44%?

What exactly do they approve of with the little monkey?

[LibDemAlways]

39. There's a large contingent who

voted for him who think he's going to outlaw abortion and gay marriage. They are in for a big disappointment. Those issues get the fundie types to the polls every time. Once the election is over, when the red meat isn't needed anymore, it goes back in the freezer until the next election cycle.

[geekgrrl]

28. what about other 2nd term presidents going into term #2?

like Clinton? Reagan? Just wondering if this was some new low.

and I will take great joy every point his rating drops!!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

56. See my post below:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1518749&mesg_id=1519662&page=

[SoCalifer]

30. Nice Website.. :)

Hi Everybody. Just stumbled upon this website and glad I did.

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As for my first post. I would like to say:

Isn't ironic with those statistics how this Tyrant (who by the way calls himself uniter) can actually delude himself that he has been given a "Mandate"?

The "Arrogant" Nazism (in my opinion) shows right through this criminal.

[Catherine Vincent]

31. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[intheflow]

38. Arrogant's the word!

And even USA Today reported that one protestr's sign read "Hitler was also democratically elected." On one hand, I think they printed that to make us protesters look like the fringe elements. But on the other hand, I think that's a factoid most Americans wouldn't know, and might just give them pause.

Welcome to DU, SoCalifer. :hi:

[LibDemAlways]

40. Welcome.

You'll like it here. Great minds think alike.

[bigwillq]

42. Hello. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[janetle]

34. Look at his ratings the entire month

They are in the toilet.

[Tigress DEM]

36. Even so, they must only pole repubs

Do I know you? MDT

[Applan]

37. It's down to 43% today (Saturday)

Even that number is difficult to believe

[mbee]

43. The most outrageous thing is that they expect us to swallow that

people who disapprove of the chimp voted for him.

[Bouncy Ball]

133. mbee nailed it.

You are exactly right.

[charlie]

44. Fuck. They re-hired the guy

And the day he shows up for work, they decide they like him less. He hasn't done anything out of character between then and now, he's exactly the same idiot with the same insane policies they wanted. What's wrong with the dumbasses in this country?!

[cpa]

104. Charlie, you hit it on the nose!

If we can believe the vote tallies, approximately 59,500,000 Americans voted for Bush. That is a damning indictment of the people in this country. To make matters worse, some of the people who voted for him now don't approve of his job performance. Why didn't they get rid of him? i hate to say it, but I can understand why the rest of the world thinks we are nuts!

[imenja]

127. remember these are general opinion polls

They aren't limited to voters. Far too many people don't bother to vote.

[SoCalifer]

46. :)

Thank you very much for the welcome guys/gals.. I am glad I found this site.. :toast:

[Obviousman]

47. How the hell did we not beat this guy?!

[slay]

51. We did. The election was rigged

Massive fraud most likely involving the machines that count the votes is to blame for Chimpy's win. Without a full investigation and hand recount of all the ballots though, we will never be able to prove it. We were screwed by our own government. Now there's a shocker. :P

[manxkat]

58. Yes, it was rigged by the same people who brought you 9/11:

Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, and the rest of the neocons. Chimp is just a dumb puppet.

Crossing the Rubicon - Simplifying the Case Against Dick Cheney
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011805_simplify_case.shtml

<snip>

1. Means - Dick Cheney and the Secret Service:
Dick Cheney was running a completely separate chain of Command & Control via the Secret Service, assuring the paralysis of Air Force response on 9/11. The Secret Service has the technology to see the same radar screens the FAA sees in real time. They also have the legal authority and technological capability to take supreme command in cases of national emergency. Dick Cheney was the acting Commander in Chief on 9/11.

2. Motive - Peak Oil:
At some point between 2000 and 2007, world oil production reaches its peak; from that point on, every barrel of oil is going to be harder to find, more expensive to recover, and more valuable to those who recover and control it. Dick Cheney was well aware of the coming Peak Oil crisis at least as early as 1999, and 9/11 provided the pretext for the series of energy wars that Cheney stated, "will not end in our lifetime."

3. Opportunity - 9/11 War Games:
The Air Force was running multiple war games on the morning of 9/11 simulating hijackings over the continental United States that included (at least) one "live-fly" exercise as well as simulations that placed "false blips" on FAA radar screens. These war games eerily mirrored the real events of 9/11 to the point of the Air Force running drills involving hijacked aircraft as the 9/11 plot actually unfolded. The war games & terror drills played a critical role in ensuring no Air Force fighter jocks - who had trained their entire lives for this moment - would be able to prevent the attacks from succeeding. These exercises were under Dick Cheney's management.

[alfredo]

48. I predict if it goes below 35% impeachment will be

the only way the GOP can retain any hold on power.

[imenja]

50. meaning?

Impeachment of whom?

[alfredo]

69. Bush and Cheney, then put pressure on his neo cons to

resign. If this trend continues it will be a disaster for the GOP for years to come.

[aquart]

111. No way they'll impeach both.

And nobody feels comfy with the notion of Hastert.

With Nixon, Agnew was tossed. THEN Nixon.

[SoCalifer]

52. Impeachment

I really hope so alfredo. But I fear in this "new world order" of global multinational corporate plutocrats who can get away with voter disenfranchisement and paperless rigged electronic voting machines. They can get away with bad approval ratings too.

In my opinion, it's a VERY exciting time we live in. Exciting not in the good sense, but rather in the troubling sense. It is very apparent to me that ALL the things that great minds and leaders, as well as our founding fathers warned against are starting to happen right before our eyes today.

- Consolidation of power
- Military industrial complex
- Plutocracy
- Regulation and restrictions upon individual & constitutional rights
- Suspension of constitutional rights in the name of security
- War powers vested in one man and not congress
- Military working with the police
- Government controlling our children's education

And even an assault on the very foundation of democracy; the active suppression of voters.

I hate to sound like an alarmist. But I fear we (the whole world) are in danger from a new world order of multinational corporate globalists.

[manxkat]

59. yes, and impeachment won't change a thing

because the corporate globalists will still be in charge.... and, we'll still have a Republican president and congress and Supreme Court. Lovely.

Find peace within.

[janetle]

65. This is true; I do not disagree...

But having Bush go down in disgrace would be....I don't know--no words for it..gratifying.

I just remember my hippie days when my boyfriend and now husband barely escaped the draft with a number of 20 in 1973 and sitting on the floor of my apartment that day in august 1974 and watching Nixon on TV giving it up.

It was so worth it and it would be worth it to see Bush having to do it.

[manxkat]

126. agreed -- it would indeed be satisfying for the moment

and, I remember those Nixon days so well. After being rejected as a conscientious objector in 1972, I got lucky with a high draft number of 301. I made an audio recording of Nixon's speech on national TV when he went down.

Somehow, I'm not as optimistic that it can happen to Bush in these times. The corporate media is way more powerful and corrupted now, the Repukes and the global corporate elite are in charge, and only Barbara Boxer and a few others are willing to take on the powers that be.

[imenja]

70. Hastert and Delay

The chain of secession goes from Vice President to Speaker of the House. That means Hastert would be president with Delay pulling the strings. Definitely not an improvement.
Electoral victory is the only way to gain real power.

[jamesinca]

76. As Molly Ivans said

How do you break a chicken eating dog? You wire the corpse of the dead chicken tightly around the dogs neck until every last piece of dead rotten chicken flesh has fallen off. That dog will stink so bad it will not even want to be around itself. And this may be what is needed for this country with the republicans. It will stink so bad a republican will not be able to get in office for a long time.

Since we are stuck with the POS, lets get out the wire,lets hook all those republican wagons to Bush. Let them destroy their own party till they pull left to get rid of the stigma. My representative out here in CA sent me a letter about the Patriot ACT. He said, Rep. Devin Nunes (R) 21st congressional district, "I do not believe you can balance security with liberty". Dead chickens and bailing wire I think are definitely the order of the day.

[Tigress DEM]

113. Molly has some great columns, but the chicken eating dog...

Is one of my favorites! I laughed off and on all day thinking about how ironically true it was, that even the staunch repubs would begin to smell Bush a mile a way with the stuff he's done. Thing is he's such a loon that he's hung the chicken around his own neck.

I think there should still be effort backing outing the truth on election fraud. He isn't the valid pres.

Also, if there is a international organization that tries war criminals we could remove the worst of the Bush administration that way, Bush, Chenney, Condi Rice, Al Gonzales et al who allowed torture at Gitmo.

[jamesinca]

122. There is a war crimes court

Rumsfeld is being charged by a New York group in the German courts. He has canceled his trip to Germany in February because of this. The U.S. did not try to extend its exemption from the International Crimes Court after the Abu Graib thing, and now they are starting to pay the price, first up is Rummy. Problem is the Kissinger situation, he is a convicted war criminal and just does not leave the U.S. I believe the rest of them will do the same, just not leave the U.S. Until the U.S. starts putting these people in jail and upholding international law we will be considered hypocrites for one more reason.

[mantis49]

49. 2006

Maybe we can get the Dems we need in the House to start impeachment proceedings.

[W2Hague]

53. Approval Rating

I wonder what's gonna happen to Mr. Bush's Approval Rating once we get whacked again. Are the Idjits gonna rally around the Monkey King, or are they gonna finally wake up and realize The Anti-Christ isn't able to protect them?

-I predict a whole lotta angry peasants surrounding the White House with Pitchforks and torches.


Peace
D.L. Bruin
BruinDesign.com .........Home of "Armageddon Now"

[PROGRESSIVE1]

54. A glance at Two Term Presidents on their 2nd Inauguration Day:

Eisenhower: 72%
Nixon 58%
Reagan: 61%
Clinton 62%
Bush 44% :wtf:

What will it take to wake our Country up?

:cry:

[imenja]

60. great stats. Thanks!

Where did you find them?

[robbedvoter]

67. I am saving this. Maybe there were even more Martian voters for W

than I previously thought. We'll never know - as they took off.

[imenja]

72. source please?

Thanks

[sorechasm]

79. I'm not sure of Progressive1's source but

Washington Post from Thursday, Jan. 20, 2005 (Special Inauguration Section) contains all these numbers but Bush's. The 44% apparently comes from Rasmussen Reports.

[autorank]

86. "What will it take to wake our Country up?" Great question.

The truly sad thing is that a significant majority of our country has been awakened. The * folk understand power and media and combine the two to make their theft of power seem quasi legitimate, raising questions for those who may not be as intense as we are here.

Your data is just terrific. Imagine this, he's barely 2/3Rd's the popularity of Nixon (who was disliked by many despite re-election).

He's going down. He is quickly becoming to inconvenient for the power structure. If he stays too long, there may be true reform and they can't stand that.

[tinrobot]

101. I think the country is waking up....

The low approval ratings prove it.

We need to tie every repuke in the country to this brick of a president an sink the GOP but good.

[Ms_Mary]

112. My grandmother and I were just discussing this

We had a big political discussion and she's a staunch democrat, from when the south was Democrat. I love her. We talked about how scary it was that nobody is holding Bush accountable for what he's doing. I was amazed at how up to date and well informed she is.

[Bouncy Ball]

134. WHOA.

I suspected he had to be the lowest of the low.

I wonder what his approval ratings were on the day of his first coronation, and how that compares to Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, and Clinton.

Hey what about Daddy bush? How were his numbers?

[FighttheFuture]

150. Actually, what will it take for the Media to report that it is waking up?

These polls show that the country is waking up. The exit polling on election day was showing that, regardless of the "results". The real question, and problem, is the MSM.

When and how will they be taken back to inform the electorate?

[Jade Fox]

62. So how the hell did he get re-elected???????

There was something rotten about that election last fall.

[BikeWriter]

63. Certainly, they stole it! n/t

[Laurab]

74. Yeah they stole it - the only part I can't believe

is that so many people refuse to believe that.

I'm surprised they don't control his approval ratings....at least not yet.

[autorank]

87. Theft and Orwellian contnrol of the media; self-reinforcing loop.

[TOhioLiberal]

64. Facinating!

If they would have polled the 'old' way, his disapproval rating would have been lower, depending on how you count the 'somewhats'

[imenja]

66. no, that's not how he did it

When Rasmussen used the old system, Bush's numbers were always higher than other polls. Somewhat favorable doesn't mean unfavorable. There used to be a fair bit of movement between the somewhat favorable and very favorable categories, but very unfavorable generally remained around 37%. Now that he has reduced the categories to two, people are forced to say they either approve or disapprove--and evidently they don't like Bush. The old numbers are probably still somewhere on the website.

[TheDonkey]

68. Don't blame me, I voted against him.... TWICE

[Jazzgirl]

71. Hmph! I voted against him 4 times.

I voted against him as governor both elections and in 2000 and '04. This one was stolen worse than 2000.

JG

[sorechasm]

78. I voted him out too...

I think...or was that an overvote, an undervote, an overpolled or an underpolled, or is my vote being used to prop up someone's stool?

We'll never know unless our votes can be validated.

[Megahurtz]

73. Maybe because

54% of voters never voted for him in the first place.

[morffin]

80. 43% too high

44% appr.rating! and that is with the right wing media gushing over W and covering up his crimes.

this nitwit should have a 1 % appr. rating..........i'll give him 1% to compensate for those with major head injuries who think W has been anythng but a disaster.

[autorank]

83. I agree but I see your 1% and add just 2% (anti social personalities).

Our baseline number is 3% (plus the margin of error for the survey). Anything beyond a brain injury or anti social personality disorder (aka sociopaths) is too much.

I like the way you think. This clown is just so bad, there should be no approval other than that coming due to severe impairment or the margin of error.

N.B. Upon minimal reflection, it may be less than 3%. A certain number of sociopaths and quite intelligent which would offer no excuse for supporting *.

[Starlight]

140. I'm with you.

I can't understand why *anyone* with a brain would approve of this idiot. :crazy:

[Guaranteed]

82. See, it's stuff like this that makes me think-

"Man. If the Democrats would just make a freaking argument."

[Bouncy Ball]

135. HEAR HEAR BullGoose

well said.

By the way, hi! :hi:

[Guaranteed]

139. Hi!

:P

:pals:

[Geek_Girl]

85. This pisses my off

Why the hell did these dumb asses vote for him if they don't approve of the job he's doing

[Mynameissalvatore]

98. they didn't vote for him n/t

[followthemoney]

88. Looks like he has spent all of the political capital from

his "MANDATE".

[Learning2Fly]

89. Even the Republican idiots I work with

are beginning to ask me what I think of SS privatization and revising the tax code. So, I'm not suprised with the 44% rating. Confidence in Bush is tumbling and the prospect of bombing Iran is definetly putting them off. Surely, this would result in a draft. Too bad they didn't look at the "big picture" before Nov. 2nd.

[followthemoney]

Small minds don't get the big picture.

The draft is the "Blood Tax". I will not pay while I am still breathing.

[cpa]

105. Election Day

Those Republican idiots still voted for him. When are they going to learn to do what is in the best interests of the country and themselves?

[darkism]

90. Let it sink!

It's a long way down.... :D

[jim1968]

91. Liars

As I recall, right before the election there was a story about a speech which Bush gave to some big money supporters (maybe on Wall Street) in which he frankly stated that his goal was to privatize Social Security. Then his campaign denied that he said that, only that he intended to reform it or some such thing. BUT they refused to release a transcript of his remarks! Naturally, our recumbent media failed to press the issue, and the story faded away. Now of course we know the truth, but suppressing this sort of story may have contributed to his narrow victory. Another example of how the media have given Bush every break imaginable.

[BUSHOUT]

93. I read Rasmussen saying that 55% disapprove. Please correct! n/t

[imenja]

100. That is for Jan 22

That is today's numbers. I posted this thread yesterday, before he released his new numbers at noon. It's too late to edit it anyway. The numbers vary from day to day, as you can see by looking at the link I provided.

[RUMPLEMINTZ]

94. Then why in the hell

was he re-elected?

[BUSHOUT]

95. Because he made enough people afraid by exploiting the memory of 9/11. n/t

[robbedvoter]

108. He wasn't. Votes were not counted. We accepted that.

[wakemewhenitsover]

97. That's the best they could do with rigged numbers?

[mutius]

102. then why is he in office

[robbedvoter]

109. Because the election was stolen and the theft accepted.

Romania, Ukraine got new elections, new results.
But we are OK with fraud.

[rodeodance]

110. I kept hearing it was 50% --up 4 pts on most of the states last week.

[Tigress DEM]

114. People aren't OK with it, but "Due Process" is "Broken"

Ohio has been fighting this since at least Nov 7
Got the cold shoulder from FBI
http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2004/12/13780.php

Secretary of State Ken Blackwell has been part of the Fraud from the beginning http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/092904W.shtml

Blackwell considers himself above the law - of course he is the co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Ohio - so when an election challenge was filed, he got a court injunction so he didn't have to testify under oath about problems with an election process he was supposed to protect.
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1046

Ohio still fighting, Bush asking for this to be dismissed
http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/12/vote.challenge.ap

One of the first stories I read
http://onlinejournal.com/evoting/112004Waldman/112004waldman.html

http://blackboxvoting.org
Evidence was tampered with - Florida's Volusa County had 2 sets of tapes, one set showing favorable to Kerry (those had electoral judge signatures and were in a black bag in a dumpster) The second was a non-signed copy handed out as supposed legitimate recount tapes provided by Volusa officials as the real thing.

[googly]

149. Because a 25% approval can get one elected president, since

only half the population bothers to vote, and you need
only half of that plus slightly more to win the election.
Actually Bush got less than half of the votes in 2000 and
still won with the electoral college.

[Truman01]

115. Polls are crap....

Unfortunately the only one that counts was in November and led to that inauguration.

TC

[Vinnie From Indy]

116. It Was Most Likely At That Level On Nov. 2nd 2004

Is there any doubt that the gargantuan, corporately owned media that has gone to such lengths to cover for ShrubCo. Enterprises wouldn't also skew and lie about their polling results?

[still_one]

117. really, where were they on November 2nd?

1. only 50% of the people who were eligible to vote did. The other 50% didn't even bother to go to the polls. So obviously they don't really care.

2. for over a year we heard about problems with the voting machines, and how the "DNC", was on top of the situation. Well, nothing happened.

This country now deserves what it gets, good or bad, but my prediction will not be positive

The first four years the pseudo-democrats in congress gave this inane president everything he asked for. The only way we can even start to take back our country is to vote OUT the democrats, who are republicans in disguise or spinless wimps

[Laura PourMeADrink]

118. Hmm. He "Won" at 51%. That is a 7 point drop since election,

(ok, assuming everyone who voted for him liked him - ha!) That equates to at least 7 million. Seven million people have changed their minds about him in 2 1/2 months. AND -- it has been a relatively calm period on the B** Stupid Actions Index.

[Cell Whitman]

124. Buyer's remorse bounce. n/t

.

[robbedvoter]

129. That's how many martians voted for W. Then took off.

If the truth doesn't hit you in the face now, you don't want to know
A glance at Two Term Presidents on their 2nd Inauguration Day:
Eisenhower: 72%
Nixon 58%
Reagan: 61%
Clinton 62%
Bush 44%

[JoAnnSimon]

120. Bush Approval rating at 44%

Kind of makes you wonder if the Exit Polls on Nov. 2nd weren't correct afterall.

[Cell Whitman]

121. Too bad the S.O.B doesn't have the class to quit when it hits 20.

Even 20 won't reflect the horrors of his legacy which President Democrat 2008 will have to deal with. Yep, too bad Bush doesn't have the class to resign his whole administration when it strikes bottom.

note to freeper lurkers:

I don't say this because I hate Booosh. I say it because he is inept. He should take his whole administration with him because they all have a frigging loyalty fetish to Chimpageddon over country. Now here's your Sunday assignment read this http://cellwhitman.blogspot.com/ and then meditate on John 5:43 for the remainder of the evening. Peace be with you.

[understandinglife]

123. Let's drop it to 22 % in the next 3 months --- BE-TBO;24/7 (n/t)

BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION;24/7

[hraka]

125. I'll show you your mandate

So, if 54% disapprove, does that mean 3.5% changed their minds or that he didn't really get 51% of the vote.
Don't bother answering, it was rhetorical.

[McCamy Taylor]

132. It was those 10 Parties while our troops didnt have proper armor

[Bouncy Ball]

136. Long before

November of 2004, I used to say that his approval ratings would NEVER go below 35% (the theory being that there are a certain number of people who would approve of him even if he ate toddler fingers on the White House lawn and sacrificed live puppies, too). Now I'm not so sure.

BUT that doesn't mean we'll HEAR about any numbers below that level.

Ahem.

[thinkingwoman]

138. stock up on water and canned foods

that don't have to be cooked.

His approval rating seems to be inversely proportional to the odds that something bad will happen.

I'd say his true approval rating is somewhere around 35%. Watch it plummet. Duck and cover.

[BoristheBewildered]

147. Just heard Greg Palast on C-Span: in Ohio Kerry lead among men & women

There was however a third gender: the spoiled.

[googly]

148. Y'all forgetting one thing,,,only aprox 50% of eligibles voted

and only aprox half of them voted for Bush. Which means
25% approval rating can get one elected president!