Ramsey Clark Or Wesley Clark-Who Is Right On The "Big Picture"?
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:52 AM
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Poll question: Ramsey Clark Or Wesley Clark-Who Is Right On The "Big Picture"? |
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Wesley Clark or Ramsey Clark
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:55 AM
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1. Will This Poll Define Who We Are? |
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Tue Jan-25-05 05:55 AM
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Edited on Tue Jan-25-05 05:55 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
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Zynx
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Tue Jan-25-05 07:08 AM
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Ramsey Clark is a nutcase.
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Tue Jan-25-05 07:11 AM
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4. Whew... I was scared coming in that Ramsey Clark |
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(while one of the most fantastic names I've ever heard - gotta kid named Ramzey) would be winning.
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Tue Jan-25-05 07:15 AM
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5. He's A Very Bright Man Just Misguided... |
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He has a binary view of America and the world with America being the black hats and the rest of the world being the white hats...
I prefer a more nuanced approach....
Sorry... America is not this malevolent juggernaut running roughshod over an alturuistic world....
Nation-states are like people, good and bad, with attributes and foibles...
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Tue Jan-25-05 07:31 AM
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6. Ramsey Clark formed his opinions nearly 40 years ago in his office |
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Wes Clark formed his opinions on the battle field in Europe inthe last decade. I respect Ramsey Clark, but the last time he was a serious political figure was in 1967 during the Johnson administration.
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Tue Jan-25-05 08:43 AM
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9. Wes Thinks Bush Is Bad For America |
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Ramsey thinks America is bad for the world and therein lies all the difference...
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Tue Jan-25-05 07:37 AM
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7. He has descended into utter madness. |
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He basically takes up every position against the United States that he can whether it has any merit or not.
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Tue Jan-25-05 07:41 AM
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8. Unfortunately He's Not Alone... |
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Foreign policy is complex and navigating it is difficult...
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Tue Jan-25-05 09:42 AM
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10. I'd be nervous around anyone who couldn't find virtue -- |
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-- in either Wesley Clark or Ramsey Clark.
I mean, Hells bells, I even like PETULA CLARK.
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Tue Jan-25-05 09:48 AM
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11. You Could Probably Find Virtue In The Most Diabolical Figure... |
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I'm not saying either gentleman is diabolical but that's not a good endorsement of either one...
For instance I can find virtue in Bush*... He never beat his wife or kids...
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Tue Jan-25-05 09:54 AM
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15. You raise a spooky point for me because -- |
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-- I think most of my neighbors WOULD find both gentlemen diabolical.
At the very least they are both public servants, where I think Bush is only nominally a public servant. I think Bush serves his rich donors and doesn't give two hoots for anybody else.
---- I was in 8th grade when "Don't Sleepin the Subway" was released. Petula Clark is a public servant, too! : )
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Tue Jan-25-05 09:49 AM
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Dick Clark pushes a few of my buttons but even he has some virtue.
Actually there is truth in what you say.
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Tue Jan-25-05 09:51 AM
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This poll will prove that there's more Nixon type republicans here than there are "real" democrats.
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Tue Jan-25-05 09:52 AM
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14. Is George McGovern A "Real Democrat"? |
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Tue Jan-25-05 01:24 PM
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You're a pip ;)
This was a good one.
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Tue Jan-25-05 02:32 PM
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17. I guess I understand why you posed this question |
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But geez, it says something sad about the left that this question can even be asked.
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Tue Jan-25-05 02:42 PM
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18. Ramsey Clark slipped off the deep end years ago |
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and has been barely treading water ever since.
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Tue Jan-25-05 03:07 PM
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19. Neither, but Ramsey is closer. n/t |
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