Agree or Disagree: Rice was an easier target because of her race & gender

[Used and Abused]

You won't hear too much whining from Republicans who hate women and minorities in positions of leadership.

Edited: It's true, the media will spin it as racist/sexist, but I'm talking about the average, everyday Republicans. Spin or no spin, they don't give a damn if a black woman is kept from becoming the SoS.

[sniffa]

1. no. because she was ugLy

it's so obvious

[Ladyhawk]

12. OT: Sniffa, I have to ask: Is your "L" key stuck?

Or do you type that way to make yourself stand out from the crowd. If that's the case, it's worked. I've noticed you. :) Now I need my own gimmick. :D

[Sparkle]

24. Yeah, what's the deal with the L key?

[sniffa]

27. when in doubt

check the person's profiLe first.

[Sparkle]

41. cooL!

I can dig it!

[sniffa]

29. thank you

i Love my gimmick... it's aLso a shout out to my feLLow Libs.

[Rockholm]

39. Love your avatar.

Yum.

[sniffa]

43. thank you

:D :D :D

[Ladyhawk]

36. OIC. HoLd your head up high. Way to go. n/t

[ewagner]

2. Neither race nor gender

have ANYTHING to do with it........

A liar is a liar regardless of race or gender........period. End of Story.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

3. being a woman is always a problem

its why her looks were alway an issue

[bloom]

4. disagree

If people didn't speak out against what she did - it would be like giving her a pass.

[demnan]

5. No, I believe she was a tougher target

because of these things. Democrats want to see minorities and women succeed for the most part so being a minority and a woman shelters one somewhat from criticism from the Democrats.

[Bridget Burke]

6. Absolutely not.

Republicans have accused her opponents of being prejudiced against her race & gender.

It's a good way to distract the world from her absolute incompetence.

[Ladyhawk]

7. She's an easy target because she's wicked. n/t

[yinkaafrica]

22. She's a monster

A heartless monster

[donheld]

8. Red, Yellow, Black or White, Male Female

It's the incompetence.

[quiet.american]

9. Disagree. Her disgraceful record speaks for itself. n/t

[skypilot]

10. Disagree.

She was an easy target because she would have the audacity to claim that a PDB entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US" didn't qualify as a warning--and was somehow old news. She was also an easy target because she never met with Bush after receiving that PDB. That's just for starters.

[WI_DEM]

11. Not at all

for Democrats to oppose Rice is more difficult because of her race and gender, in my opinion, becuz african americans and women are a big part of our base. But those who do oppose her are right because of her policy decisions especially with regards to Iraq.

[Ian David]

13. Disagree. She was a harder target

Because when people see her attacked, they cry racism and sexism and boy's club.

Unlike, of course, during the Clarence Thomas hearings where attacking and impuning the integrity of a black woman was completely acceptable.

Maybe what we need to do is make sure that only black women attack Condie.

[Used and Abused]

20. that's a good idea... if only there was a black fem senator nt

[Skidmore]

14. Disagree: no amount of excuses can cover for someone

who wilfully lied and connived to precipitate an event that has lead to the deaths of thousands and thousands of people.

[Pirate Smile]

15. Disagree. People would have been tougher on her if she was a white, male.

They are already calling the Democrats racist for questioning Condi in any way. It would be racist to NOT judge her actions and words and instead give her a pass because she is a black women.

[illflem]

16. She always loses watermelon seed spiting contests,

a republican prerequisite.
The seeds get stuck between her teeth.

[sui generis]

26. and because she's a woman

women just caint spit as far :evilgrin:

[pnorman]

37. I suppose that's a euphemism for

:silly: women just caint piss as far :silly:

I caught that Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R, TX) on the internet C-Span a little while ago, and SHE was nauseating.

pnorman

[dubyaD40web]

17. She was an easy target because she was a pathetic failure

She was the National Security Advisor during the biggest national security failure in the history of the nation. How much more of a f***up do you need?

If the security guard at a bank sleeps through the biggest robbery in history, do you promote him to the head guard postion at Fort Knox, or do you fire his ass?

She is an easy target simply because she is an easy target.

[tridim]

18. Well, according to Republicans, Democrats are racists

because they don't support the incompetent liar, Condi and the torture loving Gonzales. I don't support them, because they both suck.

Following their logic, why don't the Republicans support Conyers and Jesse Jackson?

[fertilizeonarbusto]

19. She's an easier target because

she combines evil and incompetence.

[Pam-Moby]

21. I feel incompetence is the whole issue. n/t

[Acryliccalico]

23. We should never

attack or criticize or condemn on the basis of gender, race, class, or any of the factors used to discriminate. We should only use BEHAVIOR, and I think that we use that, in condemning her.:kick:

[cestpaspossible]

25. Exactly wrong. She's a more difficult target

as is proven by this ridiculous thread, which would not even exist if she were a white male incompetent liar instead of a black female incompetent liar.

[sui generis]

28. right on the mark

However, it's not so much that we're out of agreement on it in more than a passing intellectual way - it's that the counteroffensive will be exactly that she's black and a woman to try to make her detractors look like small minded bigots and waste time claiming that it's not about her being black or a woman.

FORTUNATELY at least her detractors were also women and multicultural.

[Acryliccalico]

35. You are right

she is more difficult to challenge. The * administration has all race, gender, but the one thing that ties them is they all have the same ideology. That ideology is not Dem. or Repb. it is dream of what can happen and take action on it now. Really stupid because to many variables involved to make a correct determination and to costly. Who can tell the future? I am a believer in REALITY!:kick:

[Carni]

45. Exactly!

I agree completely.

[fairfaxvadem]

30. She didn't do her job. period.

Wasn't she appointed by Shrub a few months after we invaded Iraq to oversee the "effort" over there?

And what does she have to show for it? She's been practically AWOL on IRAQ the entire time except when they need to trot her out to repeat the admin line.

The NSA has one helluva budget and she was and is too enept to use her resources wisely, both before 9/11 and after.

She's a Cold War Relic despite her younger age, and should never have been brought back to government.

For someone as smart as she is, Condi doesn't have a lick of sense.

[ladjf]

31. The fact that you have posed the question is evidence that

it is more difficult to "nail" her, lest one be labeled either a racist,sexist or both.

[Norquist Nemesis]

32. The hypocrite Republicans cry "racist"! Just look at what

our wonderful leader President Bush is doing by nominating the FIRST BLACK WOMAN! Look how hard she has worked to overcome such hardships!

DAY TWO: Now that we have Dr. Rice confirmed, let's take a look at those Affirmative Action laws.

[qanda]

33. The thing that gets me is...

The Republicans are the ones who always scream about not putting people ahead because of their race, but are the first ones to complain when a black woman is held to account. They cannot have it both ways!

[underpants]

34. Does it make it easier to attack Rummy or Wolf or W or Cheney?

No. I personally am not attacking them because of who they are but because of what they did and do.

[suziedemocrat]

38. Her race and gender have PROTECTED her!

I wonder if that's why Obama voted for her. I'm sure there are a lot of Democrats who don't want to question a black woman's right to be SOS. If she were a white man - boy - the gloves would have been off in 2001!!

[TheWebHead]

40. completely disagree... harder target

because it naturally puts those who vote against her for noble reasons to defend racial and gender tolerance. My guess is that under the exact circumstances as Condi comes in with, a white male would receive fewer opposing party yeah votes.

[sepia_steel]

42. I love you Senator Robert Byrd.

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[Carni]

44. If they go there with me they are getting both barrels

With that said these hypocrites will undoubtedly go there IMO

They'll use any tactic no matter how asinine.

[JerseygirlCT]

46. Makes her a more difficult target for that reason

any opposition to her is called racism and sexism.