OFFICIAL thread #7 , Rice Senate Debate discussion

[proud patriot]

Thread 6 here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1528555&mesg_id=1528555

[realFedUp]

1. Boxer closes on Martin Luther King quote again

talking about the truth.

[rodeodance]

3. "responsibility counts" says Boxer!!

[Occulus]

7. Was that a groan from someone I heard on the air- THERE it is again!

Twice!

Anyone else catch that?

[Synnical]

39. I heard it, too

Wasn't sure if it was just a problem with my connection or what . . .

[E_Smith]

8. i think she is overusing that one IMO.

[underpants]

2. Whether it was aluminum tubes, ties to aQaeda, the Iran Iraq war....

Laundry list

[rodeodance]

9. Boxer says that these questions needed to be asked--

[fooj]

4. i am of the opinion that the MSM can't ignore all of this evidence!

[Jacobin]

Just watch them

They ignored all the evidence against the invasion and ignored 10 million who protested the invasion, and ignored the torture story (parroting the WH that it was just 'a few bad apples')

They will completely ignore this, or just play a couple of sound bites out of context and something like "those democrats just playing politics with our glorious Condi"

[rodeodance]

25. yes, unfortunately, the MSM will ignore it or downplay it.

[fooj]

48. last night on local news they showed a segment and ended it with

YOU GO, GIRL!!! I was shocked. Maybe a glimmer of hope?????

[realFedUp]

5. Boxer says this is a very important position in the time of war

where a nominee has a prior record and
statements on the war.

[proud patriot]

6. " TRUTH MATTERS " Senator Boxer

:loveya:

[rodeodance]

14. Boxer looked tired don't you think

[bear425]

31. I think she looks great!

Nice new lighter hair color and highlights and neatly done.

[proud patriot]

59. No , she looked serious and committed IMO

I think her heart is breaking like mine is breaking
at what is becoming of our Country .

[Tinoire]

10. This woman rocks!!!

No mincing of her words. No nuances! Just says it like it IS!!!!!!!

:bounce: for Barbara!

[Untouchedalarm]

15. All on the record

[DoYouEverWonder]

45. That's the important part

Prior to this all this evidence was considered conspiracy theory. Now it is part of the Congressional record.

[fooj]

11. B. Boxer- the living testimony to the power of TRUTH!

[stevedeshazer]

12. Strong closing

Praising Lugar as chairman.

[Acryliccalico]

13. Boxer is soooooooo GREAT!!!

[rodeodance]

17. Thanks Barbara!!

[JohnOneillsMemory]

16. Who's up now after Boxer?

[rodeodance]

22. Sen Lamar Alexander Repub. Tenn--he supports Condi

[realFedUp]

18. Lamar Alexander....how did this guy get elected?

probably by election fraud.

[rqstnnlitnmnt]

24. the comparison is so heartening

listen to this man...what a whore.

sen. boxer put it all out there, and this man gets up smirking and in that juvenile student council president tone "I rise in SUPPORT..." :puke:

[rodeodance]

27. it was that red checked shirt when he was running for Pres. that

many people liked--prob. carrried over to his run for the Senate

[emdee]

38. I just wrote to him....

voicing my disappointment in him. I'm sure that'll straighten him out!

:crazy:

emdee from TN

[realFedUp]

50. good to get in touch with them...they do keep track

of how their constituents feel, even
if they don't vote that way.

[AgadorSparticus]

19. anyone with a heart and pulse knows it is no where near 120,000

trained iraqi soldiers. otherwise, we wouldn't be there in the numbers that we are.

right on....

[stevedeshazer]

20. Crap, Lame Alexander

Puckering up his wrinkled up old lips to Condi's butt.

Break time.

[fooj]

21. These assholes blow my mind! How can they even do this with straight face

Boy, he has that right... a performance!

[tanyev]

23. "It was an excellent performance"

Performance is a good word for it.

[bear425]

34. Oh, it was a performance alright! n/t

[tanyev]

26. Next Time?

Next time we implement regime change?????

[rodeodance]

33. subtle warning?

[RuleofLaw]

28. "The next time"!

Did he just say that we must learn from Iraq for the next time we engage in regime change? (Alexander)

This is crazy. Where the hell does the authority to do regime change come from?

Anyone?

[RuleofLaw]

32. How many regime changes does he contemplate?

And didn't Bush say 4 years ago that the US should NOT be involved in regime change?

[Skidmore]

35. Lamar apparently doesn't realize they haven't learned anything

from Iraq, or he still wouldn't be trying to label the odor emanating from this POS as attar of roses. What a doof!

[Blue_In_AK]

I caught that, too.

That's when I switched him off.

[Pirate Smile]

29. Do we know who is after Alexander?

[realFedUp]

40. I wish they would post a schedule for junkies like us

so inconsiderate....:-)

[Pirate Smile]

53. I know Lugar's list before lunch was supposed to take us to 5:00 but he

said we could still have 4 more hours after that.

Kerry isn't included in this time so I'm just wondering if they are going to take a dinner break and then have Kerry and I don't know who else after that.

[Wiley50]

30. I live in TN But, Boxer, Not Lamar is my Senator

He lives in a different state of mind, character and ethics
The same goes double for our Doctor Senator.
Taxation without acknowledgement, much less representation

Edited to add Frist

[rodeodance]

43. he said others have gone farther than Rice in outlining an exit

stategy. I do believe he is being critical of Condi and her testimony in the hearings last week--and of the war in Iraq in general.

[feminazi]

64. rodeodance, i believe you're right.

i'm surprised by what he's saying.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

36. !! He hopes "the next time the prez considers regime change"...!!!!

...that Condi will remind him of the huge expense and difficulty...

oh fuck.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

47. 'we don't need an exit strategy, we need another $80 billion.'...urgg.

"We should listen to Kissinger and Schultz"?? NO.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

54. citing bible verse "city on the hill"--like Fallujah?

[Acryliccalico]

37. Those of us who are listening now

can vote them out. If they commit fraud again we will have to take to the streets. Listen to them and their LIES. They try to give you dreams but the reality is not Dreams. GET REAL Sen. Alexander :kick:

[Bluebear]

41. "Dr. Kissinger, Dr. Schultz, Dr. Rice"

Yes we get it.

[E_Smith]

42. "number of lives we are willing to sacrifice" to spread freedom????

you can send your kid Lamar!! we're not willing to sacrifice ANY.

[3days]

44. Kissinger and Shultz give their opinion on a success strategy

what fucking lookingglass am I looking through?

[rodeodance]

46. wants Condi (as SOS) to change course if warrented. He will vote Yes.

[rodeodance]

52. go forth with good works--quote mark from Bible--dah!!

[Untouchedalarm]

49. They don't realize

How pathetic they sound/

[rodeodance]

61. prophetic blessing to Condi? as she goes forth?

[Jacobin]

58. Yeah. Old Kissinger did great in Viet Nam

Surrendered after the entire U.S. went fucking berserk and DEMANDED that we withdraw the troops.

[Bluebear]

51. So the Bible explains why we invaded Iraq?

Lamar, that's called a crusade.

[buzzard]

55. Oh I thought it was the oil. n/t

[tanyev]

56. We are the light of the world.

Is that why we tortured those prisoners??? :grr:

[fooj]

68. Unless you live in California...then they turn off your power!

[realFedUp]

57. Well....Lamar's actually questioning invasion and nation building...

hmmm.

[rodeodance]

65. yes, but rather mushy about it!!

[Acryliccalico]

60. All the Repubs have to refer to past presidents

and past well knowns because they HAVE NO ARGUMENT AGAINST BOXER!!!

[fooj]

62. Tolerance? Please! They want to get rid of SPONGE BOB!

Give me a break!

[liberal N proud]

63. What the fuck in Lamar Alexander talking about.

It sure the hell is not about the same stuff Boxer just finished talking about
This guy is an idiot if there ever was one.

How in the hell can anyone get up and support condi after Boxer laid the facts out so clearly, not just some of the facts but all of the facts supporting just how dirty that bitch is.
Would someone just put a plug in Alexander?
Reagan, No Child Left Behind.... What about the lies Condi told?

[rodeodance]

69. it is rather mind boggling to hear one side, then another--split

persons--it seems

[GreenArrow]

87. Doctor Jekyl

Mr. Hyde.

[underpants]

74. LAmar's super powers are greatly diminished without the flannel shirt

Yes it was surreal and funny that just after Boxer stated fact after fact after fact and the first thing out of Lamar's mouth was "Thank you Mr.President I rise in SUPPORT of the nominee"

:+ :wtf: :scared:

[realFedUp]

66. Durbin's on the plate

Reid wanted to make some comments also.

[realFedUp]

72. Rice met with Durbin this morning...first time they met, but he's troubled

shocked by pictures from Abu Ghraib and Gitmo info

[Pirate Smile]

67. Durbin is up, Reid will speak also.

[rodeodance]

73. Dem. Dubin, Assistant Minority Lead, Illinois--wonder where he is going?

[Untouchedalarm]

77. I wonder too

[Skidmore]

70. When is Feinstein up? Jeez, I can't wait... the

female Lieberman.

[proud patriot]

75. Oh how I wish Feinstein would read the Constitution

and start protecting it

[fooj]

81. I can. Unfortunately we've got Feinstein in Ca, too! YUK!

[Guaranteed]

93. YAAAHHH!! Feinstein ROCCKKKKSSS!!!

:eyes:


:P

[proud patriot]

71. Dick Durbin says he's troubled by Rice's response to Boxer

Hehehehehehehe :D

[rodeodance]

76. most have used that word "troubled" -including Boxer --it is in vogue!

[rodeodance]

78. asked Rice why she objected to torture amendment which he sponsered

--was was for the intellegence agencies--

[rodeodance]

80. 100,000 trops in Iraq says Pent. in morning papers

[fooj]

79. Durbin busted her for lying...TODAY!!! THIS MORNING!!!

those repubs have such great morals and values, don't they?

[buzzard]

82. Mandate to lie. n/t

[rodeodance]

84. what 'troubles" him is that it is evidence of the WH misleading

[realFedUp]

83. Durbin brings up Pentagon statement that 120,000 troops will stay for 2

years. Durbin should bring up Rummy's secret
little intelligence group that's been working
away from CIA and Congress for last two years.

[rodeodance]

89. says WH blames intelligence and Condi was in the house as these

decisions were made and condi has to accept responsibility!!

[dog_lovin_dem]

85. Durbin is my Senator...

hopefully he makes me proud! He usually does, but not always. So far, so good.

[sabra]

90. Same here!

Wasn't too fond with his 1/6 position, but today so far so good...

[fooj]

94. He's been a GOOD MAN today!

[zann725]

107. Yeah, he's covering all the good points! He's clearly troubled by Condi's

position on torture, and by this Admin's "misleading the American Public on reasons of going to war."

Sounds to me like he's going to vote "Nay" on the Nomination.

Quite frankly, I think he sounds tougher and more focused today than Boxer. (Who I love, by the way...but today felt she was unfocused.)

[sabra]

86. Durbin is doing very well!

Quoted Lugar saying that he thought the war would be atleast 5 years, back when it started...

[realFedUp]

88. Senator's troubled, soldiers and citizens dead

Maybe if someone dragged in some
dead onto the Senate floor, they'd
be more than troubled.

[rodeodance]

92. more Senators need to speak out of the dead in Iraq!!

[realFedUp]

101. yeah, admitting your mistakes is the first step to recovery...

course Bush wouldn't know that since
he doesn't attend AA meetings.

[DARE to HOPE]

115. Hooray! Maybe he listened to my letter :-)

Sent a letter last week about torture being our line in the sand, that the world will notice what the Senate says about those who sanction torture, including both Rice and Gonzales.

Wonder if Obama will change his vote. Probably not.

[fooj]

91. Durbin is getting me all hot and bothered!!!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[rodeodance]

95. a cold swim in order?? te he

[rodeodance]

96. talking of lack of body armor now

[rodeodance]

100. Condi coming before us now--as a "promotion' to SOS-troubling

[dog_lovin_dem]

98. It's his boyish goodlooks! n/t

[rodeodance]

104. oh--ok--well, yes--he will pass

[realFedUp]

97. but more importantly....are there blowjobs going on in the oval office?

Can you believe how small Republicans were
over sex between consenting adults and who now
show their true colors defending this illegal
pre-emptive bombing of citizens, soldiers
and buildings just to get out one bad apple,
who actually was our bad apple for many years.

[Skidmore]

102. Hopefully, the Dems will have enough sense to get these

very Senators out as spokes people tonight on the new chat shows instead of the usual bunch of dorks they parade. They need to hit this for all they are worth.

[realFedUp]

108. gee, do you think Dems are that organized?

If we had a true PR machine, Dem
Senators and others would be all
over the media.

[rodeodance]

110. if the MSM lets them be heard!! that is the problem

[fooj]

103. it is disgusting!!

[fooj]

99. How could Bush get the military vote if their families send them armour?

[rodeodance]

105. He will be blasted by the Repugs!!

[zann725]

111. Well...that's part of standing up for what you believe in. May not make

you popular. But that's no reason NOT to stand up for Truth.

[Skidmore]

106. I don't know about armor, but they sure are trying to bribe them

with increasing survivor benefits for families now. How's that for twisted logic? We'll do for ya if you die, buddy.

[rodeodance]

112. all in the cause for nation-building!!

[norml]

"His fingerprints are all over this administration's torture policy."

A quote by Sen. Dick Durbin, concerning Alberto Gonzales.

[Acryliccalico]

109. Durbin his is my Sen. n/t

WAS MY SEN!!! :grr: I didn't like the way he was heading. So Condi went around 'meeting' with the Senators.:wtf:

[rodeodance]

114. says that Condi will need diplomacy!! which was lacking in the run up

to the war

[rodeodance]

116. he asked Rice if would support more the Aids problem and she said yes

[angel54321]

120. Durbin is using common sense....

wish the rest of the Dems do the same.....the neocons are too gullible and too stupid to get it.

[realFedUp]

113. American taxpayers and soldiers are paying for this invasion and

nation building. I want my money back!

[rodeodance]

118. oh oh--is he leaning now to vote yes???

[AVID]

117. Uh Oh . . .here comes his build up for voting yes

[rodeodance]

119. wants Condi to support the role of women 'realistic" around the world

[rodeodance]

123. he ran out of time--so Dubin did not say if yes or no.

[thedailyshow]

121. did he saya yes or no?

[proud patriot]

122. Please continue in thread 8

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