Hillary Clinton votes "yes" for Rice

[montana500]

god I hope she doesnt run in 08.

[ScreamingMeemie]

1. If she does, I'm voting no on her.

[Sydnie]

7. I agree.

I wasn't crazy about her before and now ... still not so much. Please don't let her even think about running. I would find myself hard pressed to even hold my nose and vote for her. As a matter of fact, I don't think I could even do it that way.

She has lost my respect and my vote.

[politicaholic]

2. She touts herself as such a fighter, but hasn't stood firm on a damn thing

Not Iraq

Not the Patriot Act

Not voting issues

Nothing

She's a celophane politician that rides on reputation alone.

[IndianaGreen]

13. But Hillary found "common ground" with Operation Rescue

Did you ever expect a Clinton to be anything other than a shameless panderer and self-promoter?

Heck, I'll take Kerry over Hillary any day! At least Kerry voted against Condi Rice and he no longer has that loser Bob Schrum around.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

33. Is voting tied to one's (in)ability to achieve higher office?

:think:

[Donna Zen]

42. Not on reputation alone:

She has the money. Other primary candidates will find themselves "starved out" if Hillary decides to run. The web will help others but probably be split and unable to agree. Hillary OTOH will control some very big purse strings. Right now she has the largest PAC and spreads her good will ($) along with the resulting loyality it brings.

I am not a Hillary hater...not at all...but I am a realist. Will Hillary take the biggest prize? Who knows...but as a realist, I rather doubt that the far-right's icon of immoral values will move the electoral map in our direction.

[ailsagirl]

3. I've said it before and I'll say it again I DON'T GET IT n/t

[elehhhhna]

43. She loves to be lied to. It's obvious.

[frankly_fedup2]

4. Barbara Boxer for Prez in 2008. You're right though . . .

these Democrats need to start sticking together and quit being such hypocrites.

They say what is the truth; however, they vote against what they just said.

How are we as Democrats suppose to have any respect for our politicians if they cannot even vote for their beliefs. Sure, they would lose; however, what is the point of getting up, giving a speech about how wrong C. Rice is for the job, then vote for her to be Secretary of State? That is the height of hypocrisy and a slap in our party's face.

[Hippo_Tron]

28. Boxer? She supported the death penalty for a cop killer...

She's such a sellout. :eyes:

[frankly_fedup2]

30. Be honest, is there any politician in office that you agreed with . . .

everything they did? I would like to find one my self.

With DNA evidence freeing so many people who were actually innocent that were on death row, that has totally changed my beliefs of the death penalty. I could not sit on a jury and give the death sentence to someone. I've been called to jury duty twice in the last 20 years and got out of it both times. My nerves are bad enough.

:crazy:

[IndianaGreen]

5. And she will vote "Yes" for Gonzales

Think of Hillary as the epitome of all of Big Dog's sleaze without the charisma.

[tuvor]

6. Does she have any comments in her defense?

[lojasmo]

12. "I will remain 'electable'" EOM

[jrthin]

8. What makes this all

the sadder, she's from a blue State where her voters want to protect liberal and "just" values. If she runs in 06, I'm staying home.

[philosophie_en_rose]

9. It's sickening.

I've said it again and again, what did they have to lose by voting against Rice? Even if she'd be confirmed anyway, they would have taken a stand.

I'm disgusted with Hillary Clinton, but also remember that she wasn't alone.

We need a Doctor in the DLC.

[Malva Zebrina]

40. Pretty obvious to me what she thought she had to lose

Taking a stand commits one. A NO NO. It is POLITICAL SUICIDE!

Better to keep it all a secret, interspersed with tittilation and hints that could be one thing or another, and let the magical thinking adoration, attribute something that is not there to a particular person such as Hillary Clinton.

A successful politician these days, especially one that has become acclimated to the belt way, does NOT commit on anything. :eyes:

That is shameful, but seems to be the accepted way these days.

For some, that is.

And this is what we are expected to vote for? A know nothing vote in the HOPES that this candidate will work for us and in the HOPES that this person is really a progressive Democrat, but is keeping that hidden until he or she is elected?

[bowens43]

10. she doesn't stand a chance.

she is only slightly more popular with dems then she is with the neo-cons.

[Goddess Nephthis]

11. Does she not get it?

Has she not seen how marvelously leaning toward the center has served us in the last few elections? She may have had a shot a President before, but she has turned off too many people lately. She will never win over the right. To them is and will always be a Clinton.

[marcologico]

14. Well she has a pretty big black constinuency, and I'll lay odds Bill

advised her on this one.

[LittleClarkie]

17. Just like she advised Kerry to vote for the IWR

I don't doubt Bill advised her on this one. He advised Kerry to support DOMA too.

They sure do look like panderers. Brilliant politicians, esp. Bill, but panderers nonetheless.

[quiet.american]

15. Both NY senators voted yes.

Sigh.

New York is one of the states most directly affected by Rice's incompetence, yet both our senators gave her the green light.

Disheartening, but not surprising in the least.

[Smarmie Doofus]

16. Hillary and Schumer are an EMBARRASSMENT to NY.

How they are nominated and renominated without challenge by the NY Democratic Party is truly mysterious. I for one have stopped contributing $$$ to the state party because of their silence on and complicity with the IRAQ horrorshow. I'd recommend others do the same.

[LittleClarkie]

18. Incumbent syndrome I would assume

Once you're in, you're ususally in.

[foo_bar]

19. NY is a pretty conservative state on the whole, not unlike PA

But there's no comparing Hillary to Rick Lazio or Al D'Amato. You try convincing 16 million people to like you.

[ynksnewyork2]

23. NY always votes Democratic

It never votes conservative

[foo_bar]

26. NY state, not da bronx

e.g., Pataki, Lazio, King.

[Hippo_Tron]

29. Kerry didn't have to campaign there

But you make a good point. I went to a county fair in upstate New York and I saw more rebel flags than I've seen in my entire life. And I'm from Southern Louisiana.

[marcologico]

20. Like Bill, her greatest talent is probably for getting elected, but that's

not exactly a useless hobby.

[newsguyatl]

21. as did obama

i bet he follows in hillary's shoes and becomes another huge disappointment :eyes:

she's been absolutely USELESS in the senate... and at this point, i honestly don't care if rudy takes her seat in '06.

[zulchzulu]

22. Well count me in to help Hillary run in 2008...

...first I need to get a fucking lobotomy...

[OneBlueSky]

24. just another corporate whore and BushCo enabler . . .

nothing to see here . . . move on, move on . . .

(and I voted for her) . . .

[earth mom]

25. You said it! Another corporate whore & * azz kisser! eom

[Skittles]

27. I am finished with her

it disgusts me beyond belief

[KnowerOfLogic]

31. After she voted yes on IWR, that was it. I won't vote for her. nt

[DiscoStew]

32. she's merely covering her bets...

[newyawker99]

35. Hi DiscoStew!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[hollowdweller]

34. I'm really disappointed in her.

[elizm]

36. Hillary is toast...

Barbara Boxer just replaced her as the most powerful women in the Senate.

[Freddie Stubbs]

37. Perhaps she was just following Russ Feingold's lead

:shrug:

[JHBowden]

38. Obama did too.

If Rice was stuffed, Bush would just pick another crappy nominee.

[THUNDER HANDS]

39. of course she's running

she has no reason to vote yes otherwise. Its Shumer's yes vote I can't figure out. He's not running for president AND he just got re-elected.

[Puglover]

41. Hillary Clinton

is a brilliant driven powerful woman. Everything she does is about power. Hers. Period. I find it bizarre that people have trouble seeing this.

[jazzjunkysue]

44. Hillary and Chuck lost my vote forever. Whores. Despicable.

[DaveinMD]

45. hardly

votes on cabinet appointments are meaningless. They are true progressives. But I guess their 90 percent ADA voting records mean nothing.