Al Gore In 2008! Come and join the fun!

[Jackson4Gore]

Hey guys, all of our work in the past three years may have payed off. According to a handful of sources, Gore is considering a run in four years. Our site, the Al Gore Support Center, has been online for three years almost and will be for the foreseeable future. However, we need all the folks we can to be involved. Right now we are a very active group but are looking to add even more people.

If you are a Gore supporter and want to talk politics or about a potential run in 08, please go to our site: http://algore2008.net/

Bookmark us and come back for all of your Gore needs.

Also, here is our forum: http://s8.invisionfree.com/Al_Gore_Support/

If you have any questions or anything, email me at [e-mail]

Thanks and I hope to see you there!

Chris D. Jackson

[genius]

1. I wanted him to run in 2004.

[Jackson4Gore]

2. As did we. But this is our chance to restore greatness.

[cire4]

3. If Dean got DNC chair, then I'm sure he'd consider running

It's always a plus to have one of your biggest political allies running the Democratic party. His chances of winning the nomination would increase ten-fold.

[ClarkUSA]

36. Nothing like friends in high places pulling strings for you, right?

That's a very perceptive conclusion, cire4.

[ldf]

41. or, nothing like facing the reality of politics

i think gore may be the only one with enough of a vision of the big picture to be able to address the mess this country is going to be in.

he certainly isn't beholding to the jerks who deserted him in 2000.

with dean as dnc chair, at least he may get a fair chance at the nomination, and not have to deal with being gangbanged by the wheelers and dealers of the current democratic loser-makers.

[Cheswick2.0]

52. OIC, now that Gore might be a candidate in 2008 he must be attacked too

[cire4]

60. I'm certainly not attacking Gore....

[orleans]

4. no thanks. too little--too late

when i watched that scene in Fahrenheit when no senator would sign on to contest the vote--i cried.

when i heard boxer say that gore told all the senators to back off and let it go i was furious.

you see, it wasn't his decision to make. it wasn't about al! it was for the rest of us--and the rest of the world. and look what has happened since then! gore thought it was up to him to decide--but it wasn't.

i just find that unforgivable.
and certainly i can't support that behavior in the future.

[Adelante]

8. Yep

To all that.

[Cheswick2.0]

12. hindsight is 20/20

The supreme court had spoken and the florida legislature would have simply overruled any protest with a new set of electors. None the less Gore says he would do things differently now.

[ClarkUSA]

34. Kerry pulled a Gore this year but he's reviled while Gore is given a pass

Just as people cheer Boxer now for her January 6 challenge (even though the same Bush outcome as 2000 could not be changed) and revile Kerry for not encouraging people to challenge the January 6 OH electoral votes...

at least some of us are consistent with the way we judge candidates' roles in discouraging their own Party to challenge the Republicans, if only to make history and make a statement.

Discouraging Democrats to stand up to Republican thievery and disenfranchisement as a Party challenge is unforgivable. I expect Kerry will say his regrets by the 2007 primaries.

Enough of Party insiders.

[Zensea]

53. It's a bit different what Kerry did than what Gore did

First, I should be clear that I don't revile Kerry for what he did.

However, he had less excuse than Gore. When Gore did what he did it was in the face of a Supreme Court decision and it was also at a time when the issue of election fraud was much newer and took people by surprise.

Kerry does not have either justification for his actions.

[w4rma]

5. I hope he runs, too. I think he's spending most of his time on INdTV, tho

http://www.indtvholdings.com/

[Kahuna]

6. Gore should have run in '04. He would have won...

But of course our selfish Dem (Barney Frank, Byron Dorgan(sp?), etals selfishly talked him out of it. And the money people gave him the cold shoulder. The Draft Gore people tried to reassure Gore that the money would be there. And it would have. Dean was no phenomenon, IMHO. Any Dem candidate who caught the imagination of the grassroots was going to benefit from online activism and fund raising. It's time had come. Dean was just the first one to catch the attention of the online activists. But it could have just as easily happened for Gore.

I don't know if it's possible for Gore to be taken seriously now. I hope it is possible.

[Cheswick2.0]

11. I love Gore and would support him...but you are wrong about online

activism. The Dean campaign started it and even when the others ran with the idea they didn't really get it right. At this point DFA is the only active organization built from the campaigns of any of the candidates. The reason is that Dean understood it was not just about making it easy for people to donate money. Even Clarks PAC is really nothing more than a account for people to donate money to.

[Kahuna]

29. Oh Please. What a selective memory you have...

When Gore announced his decision not to run, and even before then, A lot of duers were pledging to do whatever it took to see to it that Al would have the money he needed. If you would have read the letters on the Draft Gore sight, just about every petitioner pledged financial support.

Any candidate was going to get the online activists engaged.

[ClarkUSA]

35. MoveOn started it

Dean benefitted greatly from MoveOn early intervention and promotion and DFA's purpose differs greatly from WesPAC though both have made contributions to DNC candidate's campaigns but in different ways, so there is really no need to denigrate Wes Clark's PAC, because it's misinformation that's misleading.

FYI to DUers, General Clark's PAC is very active as evidenced by his travels to the Middle East and across the country to speak out against Bush's PNAC foreign policy -- and its mission statement is to focus on challenging the Bush administration's foreign policy issues.

Even so, during the election season and even afterwards, Clark supporters donated an exceptional amount to candidates directly on Wes Clark's guidance. DFA has a different focus than WesPAC, though both funnelled money to the same winning (and losing) campaigns. Many candidates publicly acknowledged the contributions from Clark supporters, too, though Clarkistas generally don't brag as a rule.

WesPAC was never meant to channel money to candidates though its website.
Clarkistas always donated directly to the candidates' websites and indicated so.

[Kahuna]

57. Probably so. My point is, "It's" time had come. It was going to be..

a factor in 2004 regardless of any specific individual. Dean was running the longest, so naturally, he was the "first" to take advantage of online fundraising.

[shance]

7. Gore in 2008 - Justice served***I like it!

Sounds like right choice to me :)

[mdmc]

9. I voted for Nader in 2000, cried during f911...

I'm ready for Gore.

Anything less is uncivilized.

[Pegleg Thd]

10. As far as I am concerned

the ideal ticket in 2008 would be GORE/DEAN!!!

[shance]

17. That in my opinion, would be the best duo that could happen.

We would win too.

[mdmc]

24. I like Gore Kerry or Gore Edwards or Gore Clark myself

But I'll let the prince decide....

[shance]

14. That's a great way to put it.

"Anything less is uncivilized".

[janx]

13. Keep posting periodically, Chris.

I'd be behind Gore with no reservation. Let's see how things materialize in the next few months.

Does anyone know if Gore would be interested in running again?

[Jackson4Gore]

22. Apparently he is considering running

You can read all of the rumors and talk here at our site: http://www.algoresupportcenter.com/ or on our forum at these locations: http://s8.invisionfree.com/Al_Gore_Support/index.php?showforum=1, http://s8.invisionfree.com/Al_Gore_Support/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=2

Thanks for your interest.

[Cheswick2.0]

15. I have a problem with your site. If you will fix it I will refer people

there.
You make it impossible for people to quote text of his speeches to post elsewhere. If you stopped that block and allowed people to quote your site in a post or e-mail and then leave a link to it you would get a lot more traffic.

At this point, my impression is that you want to force people to have to go there to read the articles etc.... It makes me wonder if you are promoting Gore or your website.

The other thing is you have to get the endorsement for Donnie Fowler off of the Gore web site. Gore is not and probably would not endorse Fowler. Even with your denial that this is a Gore endorsement, it is confusing and not really ethical to have that endorsement there. If you, as a person, want to endorse Fowler you really should make a new web page for that purpose.

In a few years if Gore should decide to run and we are doing more than talking about it, you will be in a good position to be an information clearing house and to have a lot of fun with the election. However you first need to make your site user friendly.

[Jackson4Gore]

18. What are you talking about?

We disabled copy and past because people were stealing our content. You know, I really don't appreiate you accusing everyone that posts something of being disingeious. I have supported Gore for years, I know Gore, and love the guy and for you to question that loyalty makes my blood boil. The Fowler endorsement clearly says it is by me and is under the editorials section of our site, so I see nothing wrong with it. We are a grassroots site, not official. We have a disclaimer that clearly states all of this.

You can continue to question whatever you want to but I really am not concerned. I know my heart is in the right place along with the other members.

[Cheswick2.0]

19. I told you what I thought and I am asking you to make your site user

friendly.
NO ONE is stealing your personal writing. Do you honestly think people are going to go there to see what you have to say? What people are trying to do is quote GORE. It would be easier to promote your site if I could post a paragraph or two of GORE"S speech or writings and add a link to your site encouraging people to go there and read the rest.

You attitude is not helping your site. People will not visit your site because you post a link and tell people to go there to read GORE'S words. The other Gore sites will get the trafic. Your loss.

And dispite your disclaimer having your Fowler endorsement on a Gore supporters web site is misleading. Your web site impressed me as opportunistic and I guess I was right..... your content indeed.

[Jackson4Gore]

21. Whatever

You are badly mistaken. I could also care less of what you say. People indeed were stealing our content in the past including our graphics, that is why we don't allow copy and paste. If you want anything off our site, you have to ask permission. Also, I don't understand what you are talking about Gore's words, you make no sense.

Again, to the Fowler endorsement, if you can't read the words CHRIS D JACKSON URGES EVERYONE TO SUPPORT DONNIE FOWLER, that is your problem. My endorsement is under our editorials section, which is a place to express opinions. I am sorry if you are so hellbent on making a big deal out of this.

Again you are trying to start something that doesn't need to be started. I think you need to get your facts straight before you start making accusations. Oh yea, we are opportunistic since we have been online for 3 YEARS. Dude, just grow up and quit trying to start stuff. It is folks like you who try to discourage people in our party who are the ones really hurting our progress.

[Adelante]

25. You know what?

This is YOUR website, YOUR endorsement, YOUR positive thread, and YOUR business.

I'm not a Gore supporter, but I respect you and your right to back whomever you want, even if it's Danny Fowler and not Howard Dean for DNC chair. You go, Chris, and don't let anybody get you down or any rank bully push you around.

[Jackson4Gore]

27. Thanks man!

I always have the problem of letting a few bad apples deter me, but I am going to try to get past that. I have explained myself and tried to correct his nasty accusations, but he doesn't seem to even care. I know where my heart is and what is right.

I appreciate your words of encouragement!

Chris

[ClarkUSA]

37. Jackson, stand your ground against the few bad apples

who have their own agendas who have no regard for yours.

I liked your website just fine, even though I am not a Gore supporter, I respect your longtime efforts at promoting democracy and free speech.

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[Cheswick2.0]

51. this has nothing to do with Fowler...he's a tool

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[Adelante]

23. Some people really have a nerve

"The other thing is you have to get the endorsement for Donnie Fowler off of the Gore web site."

Unfrigginreal :eyes:

[ClarkUSA]

38. Unbelievable

:tinfoilhat:

[More Than A Feeling]

16. I would support Gore over any senator

As a former vice-president, he does not carry the same baggage they do. In addition, the Republicans would be forced to recycle their old talking points about him, which would bore people. I understand that Gore has unearthed an exciting new persona, and I admire his willingness to go out on a limb for Howard Dean. That will surely come in handy when Dean is the chair of the DNC. I think people who are nostalgic for the 90's (that includes me) would support a blast from the past like Gore. Good Luck!

On edit: someone said he was living in Virginia now. Does he still have his power base in Tennessee(for all the good it did him last time)? Could he take back Tennessee and maybe make waves in Virginia if that is his new home? That would give those chuckleheads in the media with their red/blue idiocy something new to think about.

[LittleClarkie]

28. Dude? Um, dude? He WAS a Senator, dude.

It's old baggage, but he still has that set of Samsonite that could be mined for a nugget or two should the need arise.

If they can call up quotes from 1971 from Kerry and act like they're current, Gore would be nuthin'. Not to mention the smearing he'd have to counteract.

He has as much chance as any Senator/former candidate. Very similar chances to Kerry, really.

May the best wonk win.

[More Than A Feeling]

30. That's certainly true

but being vp still puts him a notch above, in my mind. I am open to the possibility of being wrong, since it is still so early.

I supported Kerry after Dean went down, but honestly, I think Al would be a fresher face than seeing Kerry again, just because he has been more or less laying low as far as the public is concerned

[More Than A Feeling]

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[WI_DEM]

20. If he ran in '08 I would be on board

Al Gore is truly a statesman. He is not captive to anybody. He has shown his independence over the past four years. I admire him and think he would be an outstanding american president.

DEAN/DNC CHAIR
GORE/PRESIDENT '08

[Borgnine]

26. I'm all for it.

Truth be told, Al Gore is one of the only Democrats left that gets me excited. As long as he remains the firecracker he became after 2000 and doesn't allow himself to get handled by the DNC again, then I think he has a great shot at righting the wrong and claiming what's still rightfully is.

[kerstin]

32. There is no smarter, wiser or wittier politician in the country

than Al Gore. Even William Safire testified to Gore's leadership skills and wrote that he had a better sense of humor than either Bush or Clinton! And his early and impassioned opposition to the war in Iraq and the Patriot Act means he wouldn't be politically hamstrung by having to justify the unjustifiable.

And by the way, shame on Nader for even suggesting that Gore too would have invaded Iraq! Gore should have challenged him to a duel! (Yes Ralph, I'm sure an intelligence memo entitled "BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN THE U.S." would've slipped right past the obsessive-compulsive, detail-minded Gore!)

[Lisa]

39. they derided Gore as a "detail-obsessed workaholic" didn't they ...

Even though that's EXACTLY the kind of person you would want in the Oval Office -- or working on your taxes, or teaching your kids, or prepping you for heart surgery.


Yeah, I know that there is a heck of a lot more to Al Gore than the "boring" stereotype. What I find interesting is his ability to pick out a potential crisis, years or even decades ahead of most other experts (including people in think tanks or universities who are paid to do this). He zeroed in on global warming, the loss of crop biodiversity, and global telecommunications (what GWB refers to as "the internets") -- to name just a few. For most academics, being able to see the importance of only ONE of these would be a career-maker.

It's rare to find someone who's both smart AND visionary -- plus hardworking.

[Jackson4Gore]

42. Yea but remember he is stiff!

Good god, how pathetic these folks are to say someone is too stiff or boring to be President and Leader of the Free World. In fact, I would like to have someone who is a policy wonk, who works, who reads, who has intuition and the capability to think on their on.

If we could define our candidates and not let the media and the right wing do it, we will once again win.

[kerstin]

33. Sorry -- I meant to reply to the original message, not your post!

Though they don't appear to be in conflict!

[Adelante]

40. Young Howard

I never saw that. Nice :)

[ProgressiveDepot.com]

44. How Old is Al Now? n/t

[Jackson4Gore]

47. 56

[ProgressiveDepot.com]

48. So He'd Only Be 60. I Wonder if he's thinking about it. n/t

[Jackson4Gore]

49. Reports say he is and I think so

[KissMeKate]

45. Al Gore Rocks!

go Al!

[Jackson4Gore]

55. kick

[AzDar]

56. Gore is a wonderful man, and has already won the Presidency once; but

no matter WHO we run, if voting reform is not addressed and corrected,
(NO machines without auditable records!!) we'll never win another election.

[mdmc]

58. GORE n paper ballots

anything less is uncivilized...

[mithnanthy]

59. Gore.....

and paper ballots. I can dream can't I?