Constitution says Bush should be Impeached!

[renaissanceguy]

Article II Section. 4.

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
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Clearly, paying off people to spread your propaganda at the expense of taxpayers is bribery.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/472476

[acmejack]

1. Only if you are Democrat!

[Hippo_Tron]

10. LOL I wonder when that disclaimer was added

[Just Me]

2. A pattern of deception wielded against the American constitutes fraud.

The behavior clearly falls within the realm of "high crimes and misdemeanors".

The taxpayer-funded, administration-created deceptive propanda is merely one piece of evidence of the pattern of deception. When one looks at the misinformation concerning the war, the environment, the economy, tax breaks, social security, medicaid, job creation, etc.; taken together evidences a clear pattern of deception intended to mislead the American people to give up what they would not otherwise sacrifice.

The behavior is a breach of the oath of office, an impeachable "high crime and misdemeanor and a crime against our people and our country.

[Just Me]

3. btw former Nixon general counsel agrees with you.

If you have not yet read "Worse Than Watergate" by John Dean, grab a copy. Of course, this former general counsel to Nixon wrote this book prior to the accumulative evidence of intentional deception by the neoCON/Bush administration.

[Stand and Fight]

12. No.

He talks about the deliberate deception on the part of the Bush administration. Maybe not in as great of depth as he could have, but he definitively tackles that issue and their penchant, like Nixon, for secrecy. I think you'd better read the book again...

[salin]

17. While the book is about that secrecy

his charges per impeachment are specific and tied to the IWR vote - which included that he would have to return to congress and give information detailing the intelligence (new) that justified the invasion and instead in his 'notice' to congress he cited only information included in the original IWR. I have over simplified his very elegant, well documented and articulated argument - but that is the gist of his argument per impeachment.

[Just Me]

18. The pattern of deceit via taxpayer-funded, neoCON-generated,...

manipulative propaganda was not one of his succinct arguments pertaining to impeachment. The issue of secrecy certainly was the core of one of his arguments.

The secrecy is also evidence of the overall pattern of deception which constitutes a fraud against the American people. I will review his book but I don't believe this was included in his arguments supporting impeachment.

And, I do not appreciate the patronizing tone of your post. I may not be all-knowing and am certainly imperfect but I do not deserve to be addressed in such a way.

[Tigress DEM]

4. Um.. that leaves us with Chenny? Shudder. I'd rather...

see all the scum bags tried for war crimes by an ICC (International Criminal Court) That way we can get them all out at once.

Need a pettition from "We the PEOPLE to have our country involved in ICC even though Bush is too chickenshit to sign the agreement"

[underpants]

5. You don't actually think W is in charge do you?

I don't mean this as an accusation at you but I think it is fair to consider W as just a figurehead (like Reagan) and basically their CEO/salesman. Cheney and Rummy are running the show that is why Condi's foreign policy outline from 2000 is so drastically different from what happened-she hadn't gotten her script at that point. Rummy didn't have to wait to see if W still wanted him around W was waiting to be told from him if he was staying-lying is hard work you know.

[Tigress DEM]

7. I don't think Bush is really even in charge of himself....

So yes, I do realize he is a figurehead, but officially impeaching him puts Chenny officially in charge.

[Just Me]

8. No. "Vice President and all civil Officers" are subject to impeachment.

Basically, the whole neoCON cabal are subject to impeachment and their supporters can be subject to criminal prosecution.

Just an FYI for ya' :bounce:

[Tigress DEM]

24. How far down can we go?

Hassart is not a treat, but other than being an ass toward DEMS, what impeachable offence does the Speaker of the House have on his plate?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15423-2004Nov26.html

[Stand and Fight]

13. Cheney can be impeached as well!

There is nothing that says that only one person can be removed at a time --- notice it says president and vice-president...

:eyes:

[TwilightZone]

6. The operative phrase is "Conviction of"

The Republican leadership is not going to convict him of anything.

[Just Me]

9. If they fear having their political careers dragged down,...

,...by the neoCONs' corruption and criminal acts,...they will be forced to either remove the neoCONs or risk the complete destruction of the Republican party.

[Tigress DEM]

15. That's why I think ICC first and then with the world as our...

Witness we Demand OUR DUE Process.

Even a repub isn't going to stand against the rest of the world if the Prez and select others are going down for war crimes. It's against the predatory instinct. They abandon the sick and weak.

[TwilightZone]

20. I think you're putting way too much faith in the power of the ICC

and underestimating the coherence of the Republican party.

Bush and his cronies going down wouldn't affect only Bush. Bush going down would affect the credibility of the entire party. As such, I would expect them to fight for him to the last breath.

[Tigress DEM]

25. If that's what it takes....

bunch of windbags gotta blow over eventually...


:kick:

[Hippo_Tron]

11. Can cabinet appointees be impeached?

Or does the POTUS have to fire them?

[Stand and Fight]

14. I don't know...

But I would imagine that a new president would have to choose his own SoS, SoD, etc... Since they are appointed by the POTUS. Just my thoughts. I think it is also an idea of loyalty -- Kissinger had spoken of leaving during the whole Nixon fiasco. And I believe Ford appointed some new people. There are historical examples you can look at to research this if you are interested. Get googling.

[Just Me]

19. Appointees fall within "civil officers". They have to take an oath.

At least, that is my understanding.

[mattclearing]

16. Actually, you are correct.

Bribery is impeachable. Someone should be drawing up the articles, even if no one will endorse.

[proud patriot]

21. That is correct

:thumbsup:

[mvd]

22. Right on

It is mind-boggling what * has been able to get away with. :argh:

[TheUnspeakable]

23. burned into my brain...

Article II Section 4

[SoCalifer]

26. Lying

To Congress is a felony