Bush and Hitler

[bmichaelh]

I am looking for any articles comparing Bush to Hitler or the current Republicans to fascism.

Thanks.

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[Stand and Fight]

3. Re-read the OP...

the original poster is NOT comparing the two -- merely seeking articles comparing the two. Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions, and don't be so quick to judge others. And, for your information, it is NOT just Democrats that have made that comparison or sought to find people who had made such a comparison.

[oasis]

7. You got it wrong. The poster is comparing Bush to Hitler and Republicans

to fascists. "Hitler/Republicans" is your interpretation..

[Lerkfish]

17. There are parrallels between pre-Nazi germany and the US at present..

you ignore history at your own peril.

[tom_paine]

27. Not irresponsible at all. It is the truth.

Take away the violence and murder, as well as the overt racism, and the similarities are unmistakable.

Unquestioning worship of Fuhrer.
Unquestioning obedience to Party.
Refusal of ANY facts which are not Party Approved (for the Nazis it was Der Sturmer, for the Busheviks it is Faux, etc.)
Use of similar demonization language to characterize opposition
(Bushevik example "Liberals are traitors to America and not Real Americans; Nazi Example "Jews are Traitors to Germany and not Real Germans...sound familiar?)

Oh, there is so much more.

You are correct in that the bodies aren't yet stacked millions high, they might never be.

But are you so limited that you cannot imagine Totalitarianims in a different form than those in which you've read about?

"Voting" is pretty irrelevant on the National Level. I no longer turst nor believe in our voting system beyond which I woul trsut and believe in a Soviet or saddam "result".

It makes me laugh.

Yep, people throughout history have been able to vote out THE PARTY (be it Nazi, Communist, or Bushevik) any time they wanted to...

:silly: :crazy: :silly:

It is to laugh.

But the concrete similarities between the Old and New Fuhrer, which thankfully, for the moment, does not included violent action (I wouldn't be so sure a decade or two from now, though)

those are deadly serious and you ignore them at your own peril.

[Just Me]

30. The characteristics of fascism do exist in the US.

Google Dr. Lawrence Britt and fascism.

Dr. Britt studied the fascist state under Hitler, Mussoling, Suharto and others. Based upon his study, he created a list of 14 characteristics of fascism. Each and every one of those characteristics exist under this neoCON regime.

It's very disconcerting,...very, very disturbing!!! :scared:

[Pam-Moby]

2. Remember

Hitler portrayed to his people that he was a Christian also.

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[Stand and Fight]

6. It is not flame bait!

The orginal poster is making an inquiry -- not a statement. There is nothing inflamatory about that in the least bit.

[zmdem]

8. Sure, and please consider this inquiry

"Have you stopped beating your wife" ?

Just a simple question.

[Stand and Fight]

5. Here are some links...

Here's some stuff to get you started -- you are not the first to have been interested in this particular subject. Here are a few links:

http://semiskimmed.net/bushhitler.html

http://www.thepubliccause.net/Articles/BushHitlerStalinGOP.html

http://www.rense.com/general57/bushgo.htm

http://nuclearfree.lynx.co.nz/bush-hitler.htm

I encourage you go to Google to learn more and conduct thorough research of your own.

:hi: Welcome to DU!!! Glad to have you here! :hi:

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[imenja]

9. Why is it that Americans refuse to learn anything about history?

or political theory? The Republicans are not even close to fascists. Fascism centers around a corporatist state (not in the sense of businesses but a state built around the idea of the body, as a single organism). The only similarity is that Bush has imperial designs, but history if full of military empires. Fascism is a specific form of government. See Wikipedia on Fascism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
and corporatism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism.

[AndyTiedye]

11. The Repubs, The Media, and the Xtian Right

essentially DO operate as a single organism,
completely under the control of Boosh** Family inc.

[imenja]

34. No, not like the fascists

The fascist, corporatist state model is formal--the are literally and officially organs of the state. Unions in this country are not government run. In fact, they are nearly powerless. Please see post #33.

[AndyTiedye]

43. We Aren't Quite There Yet, But Getting Closer Every Day

As you say, the unions in this country are virtually impotent, so much
so that the regime has no need to take them over.

Faux News isn't officially the state media, but it is the nearest
thing to it without them all getting government paychecks. (As we now
know, many of them do get paid by the government, but it's under
the table.

Just because the fascists haven't come out as fascists doesn't mean
they aren't fascists.

Just because the connection between corporations, church, and state
are not all official does not mean they are not all joined at the hips.

If we go on saying everything is OK as long as they don't make the
linkage of those institutions official, then by they time they do
make it official, it will be far too late to do anything about it.

[imenja]

44. "just because the fascists haven't come out as fascist doesn't mean they

aren't fascists." Yes it does. They would have to remake the entire state in ways they have no interest in doing. Repressing unions isn't a hallmark of fascism. Capitalist states have repressed unions since they first began. Fascist states promote unions, integrated into the structure of government.

Asking for precision in using political and historical examples is not saying everything is okay. Nothing I have said in anyway justifies the actions of the Bush administration. Fascist states, in fact, concerned themselves far more with the interests of domestic workers than our own system does. There have been many sorts of empires and forms of governments in human history. Fascism is not the only form of authoritarianism or domination. It was one form, quite different from our own empire.

The fact is, simplistic usage of terms like fascism only makes the left look stupid. Surely we can do better than that.

[AndyTiedye]

45. There Is At Least One Form of Government That is Worse

"just because the fascists haven't come out as fascist doesn't mean
they aren't fascists." Yes it does.

That would imply that fascists are incapable of deceit.
Surely you are not attempting to claim that.

Repressing unions isn't a hallmark of fascism.

As long as those unions are really working for the regime and not
the workers.

Capitalist states have repressed unions since they first began.

So have fascist states and communist states, if those unions were not
the officially-sanctioned unions.

All that said, while the regime has many of the characteristics of
fascism, I don't think those in control are actually fascist.

We should be so lucky.

They are Dominionists, the Christian version of the Taliban,
and they have restarted the Crusades and are bent on creating
a "Christian" theocracy everywhere.:scared:

[imenja]

46. worse than fascists?

Worse than Hitler, who exterminated 11 million people? You're letting your hatred overwhelm you. Would you really trade places with a Jew in Auschwitz right now, given that you believe our own government is worse?

[AndyTiedye]

47. They Are Just Getting Started

Worse than Hitler, who exterminated 11 million people?

some of them are. Like the ones who wrote this:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

see page 60:
" ...advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool..."

These people are just getting started. I shudder to think what the
death toll will be by the time they are done.

You're letting your hatred overwhelm you.

I don't hate them. They scare the hell out of me, but I don't hate them.

[imenja]

48. I understand your fear

but because they write it doesn't mean it's a fait acompli. We have a roll in the process. Hitler rose to power with the complicity of the German public. We must not allow that to happen here.

[Psephos]

12. Imenja makes a strong case for precision of expression re: repugs

Words can be tossed around like bricks; maybe they'll hit something, maybe they won't. Or, they can be wielded with control and deep understanding, as a samurai would move his sword.

There are plenty of good words to describe the repugs, but as Imenja points out, "fascists" is not one of them. We'd be better served by slicing their ideas to ribbons than by slapping them with labels. More effort, but also more return.

[unpossibles]

31. your links

did not exactly discourage the comparison:

"Besides totalitarianism, a key distinguishing feature of fascism is that it uses a rightist mass movement to attack the organizations of the working class: parties of the left and trade unions. This strategy is variously called Corporatism, Corporativism, or the Corporative State <2>, all terms that refer to state action to partner with key business leaders, often in ways chosen to minimize the power of labor unions. Mussolini, for example, capitalized on fear of an imminent Socialist revolution <3>, finding ways to unite Labor and Capital, to Labor's ultimate detriment."

I would argue that between the power of corporate lobbyists working behind the scenes, to the favoritism displayed to the likes of Ken Ley and Haliburton, to the demonization/dismantling of anything resembling a working class benefit, to the recently uncovered use of state-funded propaganda to push the policies of the party onto the citizens and convince them of it's righteousness.... we are getting closer every day.

[imenja]

33. What you describe is classic capitalist domination

Fascism, through the corporatist state, did not simply promote the interests of business above that of workers. All capitalist societies do that. Rather, corporatism incorporated labor, business, and other segments of society into a single state bureaucracy. Workers joined state run unions in exchange for certain benefits that the state offered in exchange for loyalty. Businesses were similarly organized into state run associations. Corporatism conceives of the state as a single organism, one living entity all tied to the head (the state) through a system of vertical ties. Corporatist states responded to socialist movements by appealing to workers and other sectors of society and incorporated them into the structure of the state itself. The result was loyalty to the state and deligitimated socialists unions that advanced a more radical, anti-capitalist ideology.
Bush, and American capitalism more generally, simply represses labor. It offers them no benefits. Bush has taken the extent to which the state operates as a vehicle for business interests to new heights, and the relationship is more naked than ever. But ours remains a classic capitalist state rather than a fascist one.
The fascists granted certain rights and gains to workers through their state organizations. Republicans are not fascists. That does not mean they are good or even remotely acceptable, but their kind of oppression takes a different form.

[LibertyorDeath]

37. Some exceptionally bright minds beg to differ.

Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.

The 14 characteristics are:

Powerful and Continuing Nationalism.....Check
Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottoes, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.


Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights.....Check
Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.


Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause....Check
The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.


Supremacy of the Military.....Check
Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.


Rampant Sexism...Not yet
The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.


Controlled Mass Media....Big Check
Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.


Obsession with National Security....Oh baby CHECK!
Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.


Religion and Government are Intertwined....Check!
Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.


Corporate Power is Protected...Check
The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.


Labor Power is Suppressed....as per usual check
Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .


Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts...Oh yeah baby check
Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

I have to say things are starting to look a little dire here lets continue shall we.


Obsession with Crime and Punishment....BIG Muther Check
Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.


Rampant Cronyism and Corruption...can you spell Enron Check
Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.


Fraudulent Elections....Need we say More big Muther Fucking CHECK!!!!!!!!
Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.



http://www.veteransforpeace.org/The_14_characteristics_030303.htm

[imenja]

38. Pinochet?

His was a Bureaucratic Authoritarian Dictatorship. That category was devised by the Latin American political scientist Guillermo O'Donnell.
Pinochet was also the first of the neo-liberal reformers.
What is absent in Britt's comparison's is the corporatist state model. Other Latin American nations have, for a time, had corporatist states: Peron in Argentina, Vargas (toward the end of his rule) in Brazil, and the PRI in Mexico. Pinochet is not one of them.

All of the characteristics above are present in many right wing dictatorships that have proliferated, and other capitalist empires like our own. I could site many more for you: The patrimonial dictatorships of Central America, for example. Argentina's military dictatorship in the post-populist (after Peron) period; Brazil's military dictatorship (1964-1985 or so, depending how you count); Batista's rule in Cuba. There are no doubt many others outside Latin America that I have less familiarity with.

Authoritarianism varies in it's patterns. I must strongly disagree with Dr. Britt's argument. It does not adequately describe fascism, and it fails to acknowledge similarities between his definitions and most, or at least many other authoritarian capitalist states in modern history.

[LibertyorDeath]

39. Splitting hairs. IMO They can devise all the categories they want

"That category was devised by the Latin American political scientist Guillermo O'Donnell."

"Bureaucratic Authoritarian Dictatorship"

Fascism with attention to detail.

I'm not a purist so "Authoritarian Dictatorship"

is close enough to Fascism for me.

[imenja]

40. It's not splitting hairs

These are distinct political categories. There are many types of governments in the world. They are not all alike. As historians and political scientists, we seek to understand the conditions that give rise to certain states. That historical knowledge is valuable, if only to prevent their reappearance in the future.

Plenty of people hurl the term fascist as an epithet, which is fine (if not somewhat mindless). But in my view it is mistaken to imagine this is truly a fascist state. The political parallels do not hold up.

If this is splitting hairs, then so are the entire disciplines of history and political science. I do not accept that, since I believe academics can contribute to such discussions.

As I have repeated, this is not to justify the policies of the Bush administration. It is rather an appeal for a more careful use of language when critiquing them. It is also an appeal to think carefully about historical parallels when you invoke them.

[kerstin]

13. Among the most alarmed are those who actually experienced

Nazi Germany. The book "Defying Hitler" would make for good adjunct material.

How is Bush like Hitler? Let me count the ways:

Bush's grandiose sense of his own infallibility, his deeply ingrained inferiority complex, his pathological projection of his own savage impulses onto "the other," his utter contempt for the rule of law and disdain for intellectualism and learning in general, his bullying insistence on abject loyalty from those he surrounds himself with, his unyielding hostility towards democratic traditions, a free press and world opinion, his semi-psychotic capacity for the denial of reality, etc., etc.

I know that's not what you were looking for, but I just got through listening to Mike Malloy on Air America Radio. (Fellow "Truth-seekers" will understand!)

[Pam-Moby]

22. One other thing to keep in mind

GW's grandfather was doing business within Germany initially during the start of the world war and did not remove himself until he was told to. Strange that the family was connected so close to someone who George seems to be replicating in history>

[jdots]

14. Thier backgrounds are different and the times are different

The neocons use elements of facism as any group that can get into a mass hysteria circus does.Facistic behavior may be a human trait that thrives if people don't pick up on themselves.
We draw simplistic pictures as a defence that becomes offensive.That made no sence but words fail us when things get ugly and we do that dumb war thing instead of thinking.
Adolf atleast had his look together while "W" looks like a Brooks Brothers catalog.

[vlad]

15. here are a few pics that show religion/nazism

they're from the united states holocaust national museum, I think.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

It's horrid the way those people were led down that path.

I'll google some later to see if I can find anything.
lore

[snippy]

16. Keep in mind that Karl Rove was the first to compare Bush to Hitler.

Of course Rove did it in an admiring and complimentary way.

From Drudge, excerpting from Woodward's book "Bush At War:

ROVE THOUGHT POST-9/11 WORLD SERIES GAME LIKE NAZI RALLY

"The president emerged wearing a New York Fire Department windbreaker. He raised his arm and gave a thumbs-up to the crowd on the third base side of the field. Probably 15,000 fans threw their arms in the air imitating the motion.

He then threw a strike from the rubber, and the stadium erupted. Watching from owner George Steinbrenner’s box, Karl Rove thought, It’s like being at a Nazi rally." (p. 277)

http://www.drudgereport.com/wood.htm (emphasis added).

[AntiCoup2K4]

20. And KKKarl should know

...I'm sure his grandpa, Karl Heinz Roverer, concentration camp guard, told him all about the old rallies.

[AntiFascist]

41. and that was only his stepfather nt

[deutsey]

18. Look up "Smedley Butler" online

He was a decorated war hero who was approached by wealthy Wall Street industrialists in the '30s to lead a fascist coup against FDR. Butler exposed the plot.

Here's one thing you'll find
http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/53/53-index.html

Look up "Prescott Bush" and "assets" and "nazis" and you'll find this, among other things:

http://hnn.us/articles/printfriendly/1811.html

These aren't necessarily comparing Bush to Hitler or Republicans to fascists (neither of which I believe accomplish anything), but they do point out the history of fascist sympathies among some wealthy elites in this country, going back to the '30s at least.

Here's a recent article in which Robert Kennedy Jr. calls the current government fascistic, and he uses Mussolini's own definition of fascism to support his claim:

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0122-10.htm

[mattclearing]

19. Google is your friend.

I find nothing more infuriating than someone asking for information and making no comment on their own thread.

This is a content-free post, and a near total waste of everyone here's time.

Use Google, and when you come up with some thoughts worthy of sharing with the group, be sure to share.

[Jack Rabbit]

21. I said this countless times before

1. The standard of evil set decades ago by the Nazis has not been surpassed and is likely to remain unsurpassed for quite some time. One can fall far short of this standard of evil and still deserve to be hauled before an international tribunal charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity.

2. Comparing Bush and the neoconservatives to Hitler and the Nazis is like comparing Willie Sutton to Ted Bundy. The latter were principally murderers; the former are principally thieves. Neither the former nor the latter thought anything of telling lies to cover their crimes. Both Bush and Hitler, as well as many other modern leaders, are tyrants who feel bound by no oath or human bound and believe that they are privileged from answering for their actions.

While Hitler and the Nazis confiscated property from their victims, that was incidental to murder. I do not believe Hitler coveted the wealth of his victims. While Bush and the neoconservatives murder, that is incidental to stealing. They could not very well invade Iraq and turn that country's wealth over to US multinational corporations without killing a few Iraqis along the way, not to mention sending American soldiers to their deaths for no reason related to national security. Nevertheless, I also believe that if Bush could have accomplished the confiscation of Iraqi wealth on behalf of his corporate cronies without spilling a drop of blood, he would have.

The number of noncombatant victims of Hitler during his reign of terror is estimated at 11 million. The most liberal estimates of the number of Bush's victims during his is about 100,000. We should note that Hitler has been dead for sixty years and Bush's record is as of now incomplete. Nevertheless, it seems unlikely that Bush will match Hitler's record.

3. Applying point 2 to point 1, Bush and the neoconservatives are not equivalent to Hitler and the Nazis. Normally, we would hold a kleptomaniac to be morally superior to a serial killer.

However, both a thief and a serial killer need to be put somewhere neither can do any further harm to honest people. To that end, it would be desirable to bring Bush and the neoconservatives to account for war crimes and crimes against humanity before an international tribunal.

[Lerkfish]

24. I think the more apt comparison is the milleu and the times, the rhetoric

rather than the individual "careers".

I think its important to learn the lessons that pre-Nazi germany teaches us; When we fall for fictional outside threats trumped up in the guise of keeping us secure, we allow our "keepers" to enslave us all the more readily.

other apt. comparisons are the notion of preemptively invading other countries due to misperceived or fabricated "imminent threats". The hubris, the arrogance to assume only Nazi Germany/US is destined to govern globally...etc.

I think when well meaning people like you point out the numerical differences in body counts, its a distraction to the real point: how do we PREVENT a Nazi-like outcome in the US? If we bury our heads in the sand or refuse to rationally learn the lessons of history, unfortunately the answer is we DON"T prevent it.

[Jack Rabbit]

25. Not to belabor a point

While they have similarities, their overall motivation is different. That is is point I was trying to make.

I seriously do not believe that Bush will kill anywhere near 11 million people, nor does he have any desire to. However, he believes in a the natural supremacy of the rich over the poor, just as Hitler believed in the natural supremacy of tall, blond, blue-eyes Germans. Both believe that the world is best run if these superior people are given absolute power, which in Bush's case means property and wealth. Bush believes others should depend on the noblesse oblige of their superiors. Hitler, on the other hand, wanted to cleanse the world of inferior races. Ergo, the difference in the body count.

I think we are agreed on the most important thing: the urgent necessity to stop Bush and the neoconservatives. While they are different from Nazis, they occupy the same niche today that the Nazis occupied sixty-five years ago. Both would impose a world based on an artificial hierarchy by force.

[deutsey]

29. That's why I say that they are a form of fascism.

Nazism was/is a kind of fascism, and probably the most evil example of it.

However, Bush et al., while being nowhere near on the same level as the Nazis, are very much in line with what fascism is (corporate control of government, extreme nationalism, authoritarianism, suppression of civil liberties, militarism, etc.)

[SoCalifer]

23. Nazis?

Bush's Grandfather, along with Harriman, Ford, and a few other American money families; supported and funded Hitler into power. Bush & Harriman had their bank (union bank of New York) seized by J. Edgar Hoover FBI director for being a Nazi bank.

Hitler called for "Preemptive" attacks for the same reason you've heard Bush use to justify preemptive attacks.

Hitler called for a "New World Order"; one based on authorityism and global corporatism - sound familiar?

Hitler created a "Homeland Security" office, except he called it The Gestapo.

[moobu2]

26. The Nazi's were also

obsessed with German citizens private lives and immediately after coming to power passed Marriage laws, outlawed contraceptives and made abortion and homosexuality serious crimes.
Does that sound familiar?

[SoCalifer]

28. Pay Attention To The Money Powers..

New World Order = Corporate / Authority Global Domination. The same old money powers are still in power today, and they are winning. Just as George H. W. Bush proclaimed in one of his speeches. "We Can Now See A New World Order Coming Into View."


Roman Fasces:

The two bundled axes on each side of the American flag are Fascist symbols. The word Fascist comes from the word Fasces which means, "A Bundle of Rods With A Hatchet Head Projecting Out."

Fascism is a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and suppression of opposition.

I don't care how long they've been there. I don't care if someone makes up an excuse as to why they are there. These Fascist symbols in our Congress should outrage every American more than people were outraged about Prince Harry's stupid stunt of putting a swastika armband on.









This is a pic of the Mace that is also in our Congress. It's location is just to the right of the above pic. IT TOO is a Fascist symbol, as can also be seen on the pic of a stamp with Hitler & Mussolini.

[AntiFascist]

36. And the same famiglia may be pulling the strings...

[norml]

32. Here's something I wrote called, "Conservatives = Nazis"

Subject: "Conservatives" = Nazis



For anyone who tries to tell you the Nazis were nothing like the
present movement that calls itself conservative, have them read the
original material produced by the Nazis themselves.
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa / Here also is a link to some
Hitler, and Nazi quotes on their own Christianity.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm The Nazis were no "Secular
European Socialists" as the right wing media whores would try to tell
you. The Nazis replaced the Social Democrats, who were their enemies.
They used patriotism, the Christian Right, the Militarists, the White
Supremacists, and the Nationalists in Germany to come to power.
Except for the insane Nazi racial theories, and the not having yet
run up the same sort of death toll, the Nazis of that era are the
same as the "Conservatives" of today. Don't be intimidated from
calling them Nazis. Rush, and his ilk have been calling us that for
almost two decades now. Can you say "Feminazis"?

[ArkDem]

35. Gee, if you had just typed your post into google you would

have done your own research.

[imenja]

42. but that wouldn't provide flame bait

to then replicated on anti-Democratic websites. That, no doubt, is the point of this post. You'll notice the original poster has responded to none of these replies.