Let's hope Reid wrong when he predicts only 25 to 30 No votes on Gonzales

[flpoljunkie]

The Democrats need to stand up and vote No on Gonzales, No on United States' condoning torture and No to an Attorney General chosen to ensure that there will be no investigations of the Bush administration emanting from the Justice Department!

Email or call your Senators, if you have not done so. Votes do matter. They tell your constituents and the world what you think is worth standing up for in the United States Senate.

Link: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

[papau]

1. tradition say one gives the pres the folks he wants - tough to change that

idea -

bur like you, I wish this one would not be approved.

But our media will portray any nay vote in whatever way the GOP request that makes Dems look bad.

The GOP own the media - so Dems get nervous. No investigations of the Bush administration is a given, I am sorry to say.

[Dr Fate]

2. But the GOP/media will "Swiftboat" us no matter what we do...

...so we may as well fight.

"The media will be mean to us and say horrible things about us if we do the right thing" is a lame excuse- and I'm not buying it anymore.

[BOSSHOG]

3. I am of a like mind Dr Fate

I say fuck the fascists. It is interesting you mention the Swift Boat Lying Bastards. I spent 24+ years in the Navy and the SOB's did not once respond to my avalanche of emails to them over the summer. I encourage political discourse and I have yet to be outshouted and I have yet to be proven wrong. The thing conservatives hate more than anything is the truth about them and their beliefs. If they had a heart, they'd know in their heart, we are right.

[papau]

4. stopping judges and soc sec change and perm tax cuts meet my

minimum requirements

If they fight on other things that is extra happiness.

[flpoljunkie]

5. I agree, but let's muster all the No votes on Gonzales we can.