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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:31 PM
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CHRIS MATTHEWS JUST LIED HIS ASS OFF, Claims Kerry never said a word
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 07:45 PM by blm
about the average working class. He said that Kerry never opened his mouth once about minimum wage or working class issues.

That is such a lie. Kerry spoke of those issues and the plight of those workers worried about their healthcare EVERY TIME HE HAD A MICROPHONE.

This is how the media and whores like Matthews make excuses for THEMSELVES for not covering the real issues of the campaign in favor of horserace crap and peripheral hooliganism like the Swift vets.

They absolve themselves for their own failures by blaming the Democrats or whoever is holding the Dem banner.

And, btw, he was talking to Bob Schieffer who just sat there agreeing with Tweety. Liberal media.....yeah, sure.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:33 PM
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1. Blast him w an email - I know I will!
not that he will see it or care.

hardball@msnbc.com
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:38 PM
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I bet they'd care if we wrote a letter to the editor in The Post or NYT!
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:41 PM
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15. he's a coward and corp whore ..... not in search of "right"
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:43 PM
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19. Thank's for the link -- just sent him an e-mail
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 07:52 PM by moggie12
Everybody should do this!! It only takes a minute -- if they get bombed with hundreds of e-mails on a particular subject, they take notice.

Edited to add:

Here's what I wrote:


Re: Kerry DID TOO talk about helping the working people

"Yo Chris,

Don't you remember the third debate -- the one that focused on economic issues? Kerry talked at length about raising the minimum wage. (Sure, it was boring the way he droned on about it, but he DID talk about it!!!)


P.S. Hey Chris, stop bashing the Democrats so bad. I used to watch your show all the time until you started coming down on them so hard. Not that they're great, but Jeez, Bush is leading us down the path to destruction!! Lighten up on the good guys a bit, okay???"
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:45 PM
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21. so did I
let's see what he says
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:51 PM
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33. Write to the program's advertisers. That will work better.
Advertisers like feedback so they know which programs to support and which to ax. Hit him where it hurts.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:11 PM
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60. Do you have an email
for advertisers? I'm Emailing him now and I'm outraged. I told him how Kerry did talk about it and pointed when and where and demaned that he apologize to Senator Kerry and his supporters.
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:45 PM
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70. No. I don't have cable TV. Just watch the show and note the advertisers
Google them and find a "contact us" link on their websites. Try to get something specific, like customer relations or media promotion.

Advertisers like popular shows but shun controversy out of fear of losing potential buyers. If they know that a sufficient number of consumers are outraged by a program's content, they'll take notice, and then MSNBC and Matthews will have to as well. (Hardball is on MSNBC, isn't it? Pardon my ignorance.)
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:44 PM
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81. There was just a discussion of targeting advertisers in GD
Here's the link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3041265

It didn't go anyplace, but some interesting ideas were discussed. To be effective, you'd really have to get a very organized campaign going. I'm hoping to talk to people here on DU over the next few weeks and see if there's real interest in doing it. My preference would be to target Sean Hannity and/or Joe Scarborough because there's such a huge, incontrovertible body of evidence against them (see MediaMatters.net, for example). Tweety's pretty bad, but he's a pussy-cat most days compared to those morons.
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:52 PM
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34. My email to the liar.....CHRIS MATTHEWS
You did not tell the truth about Senator Kerry and the Average worker/Average American. You said He said that Kerry never opened his mouth once about minimum wage or working class issues. That is a LIE.

Kerry spoke of those issues MANY, MANY TIMES -- about how American workers worried about their healthcare EVERY TIME HE HAD A MICROPHONE. He offered PLANS that would work.

When I heard him speak in PORTLAND, Oregon.....he spoke about raising the wages and providing medical insurance. I HEARD HIM.

You Chris Matthews are a liar.

xxxxxxxxx
Portland, Oregon
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #34
92. Makes me PROUD to be an American!
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:12 PM
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45. Here is my email to him:.....
You Lied, Chris:

How dare you say that Kerry never mentioned the working class? That is an out and out lie and YOU KNOW IT! How about health care for all kids; 45 million Americans are without health care and Kerry will do something to take care of that; how about his speaking of US outsourcing jobs; how about Kerry talking about taxing corporations who have their headquarters in Bermuda to avoid US taxes; so much more that I can't come up with now in my anger at you for your lies!!!! You say you are a Democrat! You are a liar!

name
etc.


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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:39 PM
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54. THAT'S TELLING HIM!! n/t
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:26 PM
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48. I titled mine "Chris Limbugh" to get his attention.
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 08:27 PM by hector459
I have been e-mailing Chris, Judy, Hannity, Lou Dobbs, Blitzer so much my fingers are blistering.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:43 PM
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56. Really?? Great!! Can you do another before your fingers fall off?
I've been trying to get people to e-mail that a-hole Joe Scarborough about some lies he told about Wesley Clark and other Democrats. Or just give it a kick if your fingers are too sore:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1552474

it's great that you take the time to do e-mails..:hi:
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:30 PM
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78. Lou Dobbs is in a much higher class than those others.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:34 PM
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2. I heard him say that the other day. He just wasn't listening like
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 07:38 PM by SCRUBDASHRUB
the rest of the so-called journalists (well, maybe I won't call him a journalist...I guess he's more a commentator). Tweety is too busy hearing himself talk to listen. He's so full of Tweety shit.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:49 PM
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30. That would be something good to
remind tweety of in an e-mail ..that perhaps he didn't hear Kerry speak of minumum wage all those times because he was blowing his mouth so hard he couldn't hear Kerry.

It's no secret even to tweety that he bellows.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:12 PM
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46. They keep lying and lying to bring the Democrats completely.
That way when we are living in fullblown fascism they can say it wasn't their fault, it was the Dems who tried to NOT get elected.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:20 PM
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76. Exactly. Tweety just pulls it out of his ass--not a shred of integrity!
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 10:24 PM by flpoljunkie
A sorry excuse for a journalist. Although, he has, at times, seriously questioned the neocons about the runup to the Iraq War, he has also repeatedly drooled at the sight of Dubya in his flight suit.

And why is he so obviously threatened by Hillary Clinton? The man obviously has issues.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:34 PM
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3. lets get some evidence and email him!!
btw I listened to him spout off also!!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:46 PM
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25. Damn straight!
Since his election to the U.S. Senate in 1984, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) has compiled a 91 percent lifetime AFL-CIO voting record on important working family issues. Kerry was elected to the Senate after serving as lieutenant governor of Massachusetts and a private–practice attorney. He served his nation in Vietnam, and for his distinguished combat service was awarded three Purple Hearts, a Silver Star and a Bronze Star.

As a U.S. senator, Kerry often has stood up for workers’ rights, most recently in 2003, voting to protect workers’ overtime rights in the face of a Bush administration assault on the Fair Labor Standards Act that could cost millions of workers their overtime pay. He backed the extension and expansion of federal unemployment insurance benefits for long-term jobless workers and voted to protect millions of retirees from the loss of their employer-provided prescription drug coverage as part of the recently passed and seriously flawed Medicare prescription drug law.

In Kerry’s legislative career, he addressed the nursing shortage, increased the minimum wage, expanded early childhood development and children’s health insurance coverage, increased law enforcement funding and provided assistance to families of Vietnam veterans who were victims of Agent Orange.

http://www.aflcio.org/issuespolitics/politics/kerry.cfm

Also:

http://www.johnkerry.com/

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/economy/

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/health_care/



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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:35 PM
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4. What crap,Kerry wanted to raise MW to $7.00-7.15
Man,I am soooo sick of this shit...
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:36 PM
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5. Isn't there an ethics code these losers are required to adhere to?
Who demands accuracy in reporting? If these boneheads make mistakes in their reporting...aren't they supposed to "correct the record"?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:50 PM
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32. There hasn't been an ethical code for journalism since 1999.
.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 02:58 AM
Response to Reply #32
104. How sad is that?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:37 PM
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6. $7/hours - over 3 years - minimum wage. I wish he stayed silent.
As for tweety, he is always an a*
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #6
16. Why?
Isn't that better than 5 something an hour?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #16
88. It's also better than a bullet in the head, it doesn't mean its respectful
of human needs. neither you, nor Kerry.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 12:14 AM
Response to Reply #88
91. How much did you consider to be a reasonable number?
Also, it was at least a start, and more than we're going to get out of Bush.

Hey, my brother works for that minimum wage. Seven is better than five. I'd want more, but I would take that for a start. Sorry you think Kerry and I are such ogres. I'll just be going back to my bridge now. Fetch me a goat, there's a good fellow.
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #88
93. Hey, minimum has to be somewhere. A $2.00 raise with the ..
other budgetary concerns the Bushits had wracked up was reasonable. At least he was talking about moving it up at all.

With Bush we've lost more jobs than under any other administration. And in the Bush world those on minimum wage are meant to die off anyway.

The point is whether you thought it was enough or not, liars are saying he didn't talk about the issues at all.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #93
110. Spoken like a true democrat. "Slightly better than a Republican"
MLK in the 60's was talking about $10. But then again, he was a dreamer.
And I won't even mention what kerry said to Clinton on the subject and what Ted Kennedy said to Kerry on the very subject.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 02:20 AM
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103. What state are you from?
You may not realize this, but $7 is a major increase for some states. If you are from a progressive state like mine that already has this, you may think Kerry was being stingy, but he was talking about bringing the regressive states up to par. At that point you can continue to rise the minimum wage of all states in a fair way.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:38 PM
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7. Matthews obviously doesn't do his homework
When I saw Kerry at a huge rally in Madison during the final week he spoke about all of these things and I know he did at every stop in his stump speech.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:49 PM
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31. "Wisconsin is Kerry Country!"
:hi:

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:38 PM
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8. Transcript, please?
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:39 PM
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9. Boy, they continue with the lie after lie........
:kick:
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Fla4kerry Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:39 PM
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10. Matthews lied his ass off
I just turned off Matthews and his Bull$$. I can not believe that discussion with Bob Schaeffer it's nauseating..We need to send our comments to that ass on msn and let him know Kerry talked alot about workers in America.. It's republican all the time on any talking pundit shows.. and the biggest one will happen Wednesday night with our President Lier, he will sugar coat Social Security issue to the likes we have never seen.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:39 PM
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11. he even talked about it in the debates
How much more of a public forum can you get?
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:41 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. That's right, in the third debate he talked about raising the min. wage
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:40 PM
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12. Didn't someone else just claim that last week as well?
I'm trying to remember who.

Was it the head of the NAACP? Hmm.

Funny, it feels like the campaign, as if Kerry is still under attack. Were the pundits still on about Gore at this point?

Maybe since he's still visible, they feel they need to go after him still.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #12
63. Of course
Kerry's still a senator and Gore kind of disappeared.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:40 PM
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13. Hell,go to the top....Email Kerry.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. Why?
He already knows he talked about the working poor. Does he need to be reminded?

Or do you want us to tell Kerry to punch Chris Matthews' lights out.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:43 PM
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17. Uhh...June 18th 2004. Took about 1.2 seconds to Google it Tweety...
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 07:43 PM by OneTwentyoNine
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:44 PM
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20. Go to johnkerry.com and look at his speeches for evidence.
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 07:48 PM by clydefrand
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/economy/workers.html

The following is from his economic plan:

Raise The Minimum Wage. As president, John Kerry will raise the minimum wage from $5.15 to $7.00 by 2007. An increase in the federal minimum wage is well overdue. It has fallen further and further behind the cost of living, and the impact of the last increase has been entirely eroded by inflation. Today, the minimum wage is worth only 33 percent of the average American wage, its lowest level since 1949. John Kerry's plan for an increase will impact nearly 15 million American workers, helping families move another step towards the American Dream by ensuring that no parents working full time will have to raise their children in poverty.

Protect Wages And Workplace Rights -- Including Overtime Pay. As president, John Kerry will reverse recent changes made by the Bush administration that will deny overtime pay to six million workers, and oppose efforts that allow employers to create company organized and controlled employee organizations aimed at replacing unions under the TEAM Act.

Enforce Equal Pay For Women. Women make 77 cents for every dollar earned by a man. John Kerry believes there shouldn't be two pay scales in America for the same honest day's work. Because working women are treated unfairly, there is less take home pay for almost every working family in America. As president, John Kerry will support pay equity legislation to remedy this economic injustice.

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ottozen Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:45 PM
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22. Matthews works for the CIA.
Now he has new bosses, has to toe the line.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:46 PM
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23. Even Faux news says Kerry supported wage hike!
Hey everybody, Chris Matthews is doing an Ann Coulter imitation.

June 18, 2004. Kerry Calls for a $7 Minimum Wage to Help Families Get Ahead. New Report Shows Working Women Benefit Most from Increase. For Immediate Release. ...
www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0618.html

FOXNews.com - You Decide 2004 - Kerry Proposes Minimum Wage Raise... Kerry Proposes Minimum Wage Raise. Friday, June 18, 2004. PHOTOS, VIDEO. STORIES. ... Inflation has eroded the value of the last increase in minimum wage, Kerry said ...
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,123043,00.html

MSNBC - Kerry proposes $7 minimum wage... Kerry: Minimum wage 'unacceptable' June 18 ... NBC News. Kerry proposes $7 minimum wage. The Associated Press. Updated: 1:42 pm ET June 18, 2004. ALEXANDRIA, Va. ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5239288/


:wtf:
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AusTexDem Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:46 PM
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24. the marketplace is the only thing that will change the MSM
turn it off! for good. you can get all the news you need on the net or if you're lucky Air America radio.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #24
28. Or a few thousand E-mails with links to Kerry's stand on MW increases...nt
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #24
96. Former MSNBC junkie here
Used to watch Hardball--quit cold turkey sometime in October. It feels great! :)

These days, it's Cspan and PBS for me.
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AusTexDem Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:28 AM
Response to Reply #96
106. I haven't watched one second sense Nov 8.
I turned it off and haven't looked back. I feel a lot less stressed and I have much more time for other stuff. I highly recommend it to everyone.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 12:01 PM
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112. the turning point for me was
I was watching Hardball, but had been getting more and more frustrated--he always had right-leaning guests much more than left. So I said to myself, ok, I'll watch and see how long it takes them to diss John Kerry three times. So Tweety starts right out with one, and within about two minutes, they had all poked fun of and/or criticized him at least three times. So then I knew they had an agenda, turned them off and never looked back.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:47 PM
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26. That's such utter bullshit and
typical whore rhetoric! I heard Kerry with my own ears.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:47 PM
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27. I guess if Mathews isn't watching, it never happened
I wonder if he would even take the time to look at rallies (if CSPAN achieved any). It's annoying that the press did such a miserable job covering Kerry that they have no idea what he talked about.

However this is just reinventing history, I remember Mathews and others making fun of Kerry/Edwards using the 2 Americas theme that Edwards did in the primaries. (Not that Kerry didn't talk about the same issues then.) Also it's hard to be the #1 liberal ignoring the poor. Even Kerry's Biblical quote dealt directly with this.

Matthews may not want to face the fact that he (and his peers) as much as anyone sunk the candidate that when it really comes down to it has values closer to those they like to attribute to themselves. If the press divided even close to 50/50, Kerry would have won.
As long as he can blame Kerry, he doesn't have to take responsibility for keeping Bush.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. he won't call bush out on any lies....and he himself is a paid whore
there is no search for truth....
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #29
35. I just sent CM (paid whore) this info too
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/economy/workers.html

The following is from his economic plan:

Raise The Minimum Wage. As president, John Kerry will raise the minimum wage from $5.15 to $7.00 by 2007. An increase in the federal minimum wage is well overdue. It has fallen further and further behind the cost of living, and the impact of the last increase has been entirely eroded by inflation. Today, the minimum wage is worth only 33 percent of the average American wage, its lowest level since 1949. John Kerry's plan for an increase will impact nearly 15 million American workers, helping families move another step towards the American Dream by ensuring that no parents working full time will have to raise their children in poverty.

Protect Wages And Workplace Rights -- Including Overtime Pay. As president, John Kerry will reverse recent changes made by the Bush administration that will deny overtime pay to six million workers, and oppose efforts that allow employers to create company organized and controlled employee organizations aimed at replacing unions under the TEAM Act.

Enforce Equal Pay For Women. Women make 77 cents for every dollar earned by a man. John Kerry believes there shouldn't be two pay scales in America for the same honest day's work. Because working women are treated unfairly, there is less take home pay for almost every working family in America. As president, John Kerry will support pay equity legislation to remedy this economic injustice.


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Fla4kerry Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #29
36. lie,lie
thanks for the link to Msn/Matthews. Just sent an email letting them know they are quickly catching up to Fox on ignorant facts.
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WrtMandamus Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:57 PM
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37. He's whack
Did you hear him say to Bob schieffer "I'm going to ask you a sarcastic question. Do you really think that seeing anymore of John Kerry,with his personality, would've made any difference to middle America, I think they saw too much of him" Very sarcastic. I've never liked Matthews, I don't know why I put it on.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. This coming from a man with the personality of styrofoam
I think middle America see too much of Chris Matthews.
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Fla4kerry Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #37
40. he isss whacked
I stopped listening to all TV pundits since Nov3rd, don't know why I chose to put it on tonight. Thank god for air America.

Organize Now
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:59 PM
Response to Original message
39. If everybody on this thread sent Tweety an e-mail,
it might have an impact!!!!

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WrtMandamus Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. I'm doing it now
But I'm not too good at phrasing things, I tend to ramble on and on.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #41
50. Me too -- I used to practically write novels
You really only need to do 3-5 lines tops. The key to these e-mail barrages is volume -- they usually just count-up the number of e-mails that come in on a particular topic. The more volume, the better!! Also, it's best to keep it fairly civil and polite, no cursing or name-calling (yes, that's the hardest part).

Welcome to DU! Glad to see yet another pro-active, action-oriented DUer willing to write letters and e-mails!! :hi:
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:05 PM
Response to Reply #39
43. I sending him one with a LINK that he could have looked up himself!! nt
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #39
44. It won't. Tweety is a propagandist. He is being paid to lie. Exposing his
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 08:08 PM by w4rma
lies to others so that he thinks he might be thought of, more widely, as a liar and a propagandist is the only tactic with a chance to make him recant.

In other words, send your email to everyone EXCEPT Tweety, especially folks who are most likely to air this on their shows.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #44
64. What about
Keith Olbermann?
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #64
74. Not KO, he's a fair journalist.
:loveya:
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:04 PM
Response to Original message
42. I just said the same damned thing you did! How can he get ....
away with lies like that???? Bast**d!

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:13 PM
Response to Original message
47. It's okay to lie on John Kerry. After all, nobody really likes him anyway
so nobody will care. They'll just nod their heads in agreement, right or wrong.

We were all voting against Bush, not for that elitist flip-flopping Republican-lite Skull and Bonesman, dontchaknow. So nobody will even notice if we misrepresent him. We didn't listen to ol' Lurch, anyway.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. They'll just keep doing it to Kerry and ANY Dem banner holder. That's what
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 08:28 PM by blm
they do. They don't get paid to be honest. They get paid to convince the public that those looking out the most for the working man are their enemies.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #49
52. And I was wondering if they thought they'd get away with it esp w/Kerry
because they don't think he has much support out here.

I think he has more support than they realize.

Hell, how many people watched the debates and remember him talking about minimum wage and such. Even if they're not all that keen on Kerry, hopefully folks have more of a memory than Chris Matthews is giving them credit for.

1984. Kerry never supported MW. Forget the past.
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Mitt Chovick Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:31 PM
Response to Original message
51. Tweety lying isn't news
If Tweety told the truth, now that would be news....
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:37 PM
Response to Original message
53. Sent him this message:
Chris,
I don't know where the heck you were when the third debate on economic issues was being aired, but it would do you some good to remove your head from your nether regions. Apparently you missed John Kerry talking about raising the minimum wage over a three year period... Guess you didn't bother to get that memo when you got your right-wing talking points. So much for investigative journalism -- people like you are not worth one honest journalist like Helen Thomas or Dan Rather. Maybe if you bothered to fact check you wouldn't look like such a dammed right-wing idiotic tool all the time!

You're a joke...
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 08:42 PM
Response to Original message
55. I just emailed him too. This is what I said:
"For heaven's sake, he even talked about it in the debates. Did you forget that, or is there a reason you feel it necessary to malign the man in this way? Be aware please, reports that all the votes for John Kerry were merely votes against Bush have been exaggerated. More people than you realize supported, and still support, the man. And we remember what he said on the campaign trail, even if you don't. Furthermore, I don't think he'd be pushing a children's health care bill right now if he didn't care about the working poor.

Thank you for your time.

Erica XXXXXXXXX
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:03 PM
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57. Media repeatedly said, "Kerry has no Plan", but his clear, detailed plans
were posted to his website, and were in print in an inexpensive paperback.

It was brazenly irresponsible journalism for these reporters to say, as they repeated did during the course of Kerry's campaign, that "Kerry has no plan".

Kerry's website had detailed plans for all the major issues, linked from here:
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/

Further, his overarching vision and detailed plans were laid out in a comprehensive, integrated style in his book, which was available free of charge to anyone as a pdf document, and still is, here:
http://www.johnkerry.com/plan/

How could they possibly say, "he has no plan"? How could they say, "no one can figure out where he stands on the issues"? Anyone who is able to read, (that excludes Bush, of course, but not the mainstream media journalists) would have known that Kerry had well thought out plans and clearly articulated positions on the issues.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #57
62. One of Kerry's plans is now being used by *
* has proposed increasing the military death gratuity, exactly as Kerry proposed it during his campaign months ago. Kerry was talking about this way back in the summer of '04. I hope Bush raids more of Kerry's ideas. Even if Bush claims credit, Kerry's plans and proposals were great.

Here is a snip from Kerry's website, where he proposed what Dubbya is yapping about today and claiming credit for:

from Kerry's website
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/national_security/milfamilies.html

Assistance When A Service Member Has Been Killed

Increase The Death Gratuity. When a service member is injured or killed in the line of duty, military families deserve full, complete, and timely notification. No other moment in life will ever carry such pain, and the nation owes surviving families its highest respect and best efforts. As president, John Kerry will work to have a $250,000 gratuity added to the Service Members Group Life Insurance if a service member is killed in a combat zone.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:19 PM
Original message
That's all he knows
how to do. I wonder how many ideas of Gore's he used in 2000-2004? That really pisses me off. And now W will get all the praise when it's Kerry's ideas!!!
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 12:26 AM
Response to Reply #62
95. Dubbya thinks he invented "clean air" too. ,n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:04 PM
Response to Original message
58. Oh good grief!
Did he not watch any of the debates?! I have them recorded if he'd like to borrow them. I even have a rally in Wisconsin (I believe it was) and Kerry talked mainly about working class!!! ARGH!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:06 PM
Response to Original message
59. I wonder how much Rove paid Tweety for that one?
That's my standard question now with CM whores.
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:13 PM
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61. Isn't this rather embarassing for Tweety because it shows to all the
world that his great "political analyst" routine is a ruse and shows that he is incompetent or a liar or both. It's like standing in front of the camera with your fly unzipped. In his case, it's his mouth that could use zippering.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:19 PM
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65. There needs to be a creative response to this
This is very similar to what I posted about last night -- Republicans saying Democrats never offer alternative proposals. How loud do we have to shout things for these idiots to hear (and admit they heard)??

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1551475&mesg_id=1551475

- Should we snailmail transcripts of Kerry speeches printed in HUGE fonts for easy reading?
- Should we fill his email inbox with audio clips?
- Should we send him links to websites about memory loss since he seems to be losing his, or maybe some Gingko Biloba?

I'm so sick of these same stupid whines the rightwing makes about Democrats. They either can't hear, read, or remember, or they simply can't tell the truth.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #65
66. When a democrat
speaks all they do is close their eyes and ears and go "la la la la la you're not here." No matter what. :mad: :grr:
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #65
86. Hey Sparkly, that's a good one -- when you write your e-mail,
offer to send him some Gingko Biloba since he seem to be having such memory problems. A little satire is just what is needed!! And tell him a few of the things you've come up with for making the media remember that the Dems have proposed a zillion things.

P.S. If you can, post what you write on this thread -- this, I gotta read.
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Clarks_Babe Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:22 PM
Response to Original message
67. I think I know what he means
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 09:28 PM by Clarks_Babe
I think he is refering to lower class issues. Middle class people were the focus of Kerry's campaign and I remmember being frustrated that he did not talk about the poor or the homeless or those with no hope of insurance under his plan. How can you buy into an insurance plan if you are working part time for 6 dollars and hour?
Not a soul talks about the poor and about minimum wage issues anymore.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #67
71. Talking about the"middle class" is a mantra these days
But Kerry did propose raising the minimum wage (I remember hearing him make a good case for it in the third debate). And I think his health insurance plan would have addressed many issues related to lack of health care for those stuck with menial jobs that offer no benefits. You're right about the homeless issue -- haven't heard that talked about in -- what? -- a decade or more??? Times have changed. Who'd have thought we'd need to fight to the death just to preserve Social Security??!!!

And welcome to DU! :hi:
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:25 PM
Response to Original message
68. OK,its an obvious,blatant lie,so...who LOSES their job at MSNBC??
Its a big ass lie,they didn't even try to check facts. So,just like at CBS shouldn't a few people be shit canned over this??

Nope,only blatant if the reporting is done on a Repuke.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:32 PM
Response to Original message
69. I just emailed him - wrote the following
and I mean it...

"He did talk about working class issues all the time. Why would you say that. What happened to you man? 'Ol Tip is looking down on you and he's not very happy with what he sees."
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #69
75. That's the sad truth- poor Tip is spinning in his grave n/t
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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:53 PM
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72. It's a good thing nobody watches his show
:D
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 09:53 PM
Response to Original message
73. $7.00 an hour
Over and over again, Kerry said that he would raise the minimum wage to $7.oo hour. Do your homework, Matthews.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:29 PM
Response to Original message
77. My email:
To: Chris Matthews,

On your show (2/01) you said that John Kerry never discussed the working class's economic conditions. That is a LIE! Senator Kerry made the minimum wage, union protection, and job protection a central part of his campaign. Tip O'Neill is looking down upon you with shame. You sir, are a liar.

.
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:32 PM
Response to Original message
79. Thats why campaign finance reform,
though well intentioned, is such a joke. Trying to control campaign spending is useless when you have entire networks that are nothing but clever advertising to get repiglicans elected. The corporate honchos make sure the news helps con-servatives, pulling back, just once in a while to help with the illusion that they are a news organization.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:33 PM
Response to Original message
80. Tell Everyone You Know That These Guys Are LYING!!!!! n/t
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #80
82.  John Kerry should sue Tweety.
"Not a soul talks about the poor and about minimum wage issues anymore."

John Edwards spoke a lot about the poor and how it is such a disgrace that America has so much wealth but has forgottin the poor.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #80
83. And tell them to send e-mails, too
Here's the link: hardball@msnbc.com
Copy to: viewerservices@msnbc.com

Post yours on this thread when you're done. We're getting quite a collection -- most really biting (and funny).
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marcologico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:55 PM
Response to Original message
84. He also talked about it in every debate, primary and general.
Only he didn't call us "working class," he called us "middle class," because that's the way we see ourselves, and you know what?

I APPRECIATED THAT!!!!
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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 10:49 AM
Response to Reply #84
111. And he also used the phrase
"and those striving to become middle class." D ; )
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:55 PM
Response to Original message
85. Bob Schieffer and Matthews both have a long right wing
pedigree. UGH!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #85
87. ....and their memories are as short as their dicks!
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #87
109. I have no knowledge of their genitalia.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:24 PM
Response to Original message
89. You should send me an email and let me know that you caught him in a lie.
Although I'm sure you already did. I don't watch cable news anymore besides cspan (and Keith O.). I stopped watching all of those whores since the election theft. I don't miss them at all.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 12:14 AM
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90. Doesn't that just piss you off, when you know they know better and
do it anyway? It's amazing to me how Chris can think he has any credibility...he tells a completely different story when he's on someone elses show, on Bill Mahrs, he basically said that he wouldn't get any guests on if he didn't spin their crap...

Last night was the last straw for me...he lied outright about Reid over and over...He was saying that Reid was calling for the immediate withdrawal of the troops when Reid pointedly said He WAS NOT calling for the withdrawal of the troops at this time, that he was demanding plans for withdrawal...which is required by the War Powers Resolution of 1973.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 12:24 AM
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94. He was confused...
He is the one who never speaks about those issues.

You see, when you area self-absorbed asshole, like tweety, you get yourself and your little concerns confused with the rest of the world.

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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #94
98. Classic projection- the MEDIA never adresses working class issues.
Kerry focused on it- the media are a buncha damn clowns!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 12:35 AM
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97. Has Tweety ever heard of something called "Google"?
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_1002.html

"Raise The Minimum Wage And Support And Restore Overtime for Six Million Workers.  John Kerry will raise the minimum wage from $5.15 to $7.00 by 2007, giving more than 7 million Americans a raise and increasing the earnings of a full-time worker by about $3,800 a year.  In addition, John Kerry will restore the overtime protections that Americans lost under George W. Bush."

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/02/elec04.prez.kerry.speech/

"Kerry went through a list of promises which included cutting the deficit in half in four years; eliminating loopholes in the tax code which allow corporations to export jobs; adding incentives for the creation of manufacturing jobs; and raising the minimum wage."

I personally saw him speak dozens of times and that was ALWAYS something he would bring up.

I even remember SEEING Tweety in Des Moines when Kerry was giving a speech about many things, including raising the minimum wage.

I guess he was too busy staring at Teresa'a ass. Twit.

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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 01:38 AM
Response to Original message
99. Chris Matthews
Thanks for the alert! I e-mailed Matthews and offered to send him my copy of the Kerry/Edwards Plan for America. He should read it before he distorts the truth again and tries to bash Kerry.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 01:52 AM
Response to Reply #99
102. Welcome to DU, wisteria! Hope you have fun...
:hi:
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 01:50 AM
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100. fucking lying asshole NM
nm
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 01:51 AM
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101. We live in a nightmare.
The truth is invisible to these chumps.
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ashiebr Donating Member (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 04:54 AM
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105. I will never understand why...........
.......the Dems do not have 'Rebuttal Unit' monitoring all broadcasts like the UK Labour Party.

If there is anything untruthful or even dubious broadcast, they get straight on to the show/producers etc and put the facts right there and then in as aggressive a way as possible.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:38 AM
Response to Original message
107. That blabbering, sputtering stupid blonde.
ex-drunk Catholic cop from Philly with a baseball announcer's mentality, slobbering over studs in a uniform. Stupid white boy.

;-)
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:40 AM
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108. Why any Democrat would treat Tweety with any modicum of civility
is beyond me. They should go on the attack on his show. Out the son of a bitch for the Democratic poser he is.
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