Is anybody else watching Larry King?

[Sparkly]

Beverly and Tim LaHaye... MAN these people are frightening!!!! :scared:

[Stand and Fight]

1. Just tuned in...

It's on commercial. What's it all about?

[Sparkly]

5. They're rightwing Christian fascists

They are wayyyyy out there. I just tuned in shortly before the break. They were gay-bashing based on the Bible, and then said, "But let's make it clear, we aren't angry with the gay people! We LOVE them and want to HELP them!!"

Then they said they wanted to save them from diseases. Larry said, hetero couples get those diseases too. "Yeah but not to the point of killing off the population like the gay people." (Uh, Africa? Hello?)

[kuozzman]

7. WOW!

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[Just Me]

32. NO. Two were "extremists", two were more moderate.

The show actually demonstrated the divide among radical Christians and much more moderate Christians.

I thought the radicals looked foolish next to the moderates.

It was a sobering show for all Americans to watch.

Very cool.

AND Larry King did confront the "radicals" with their radical views.

I feel very good about that show.

[Sparkly]

46. Yes, I was talking about the LeHayes

who are radical, indeed. They're the ones I cited in my OP and paraphrased above.

[wesrose]

41. It's pretty scary.

I have a love/hate relationship with the guests on Larry King.

[newyawker99]

61. Hi wesrose!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Grey Ranks]

11. It is intresting

I study the Christian Right. A kind of know your enemy thing. I do not really think of them of as enemies. What I have seen so far is giving a good insight into thier tought processes.

I did notive two things, positive things.
One of the people laughed when asked whether Liberals can be good Christians and said "Of course." I think he meant it and I think that is a positive sign that we should not seperate our selves from them. We need to turn them back to the light side of the Force.

The second was the guy who said that Bush DOES ow liberals, he ows all American people. A true sentiment, and one that if it holds true with otehr evangelicals can be used against thier arguments.

[alittlelark]

29. Dude, please use the spell check.... my eyes are hurting

[Stand and Fight]

34. LMAO

:silly:

[Grey Ranks]

36. Fair enough

Noted and accepted.

[janx]

53. It is not only spell check...

;-)

[Just Me]

37. Yes, Bush does OWE all American people. Good observation.

Great observation, actually!!! :bounce:

[mordarlar]

56. i agree

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Larry King makes me hurl as it is.

If I had to listen to him interview those wack jobs I'm afraid I'd have to stick my head in the oven.

[davidwparker]

4. No. One of the most boring hours on TV. Tend to listen to AAR

and watch C-SPAN.

[Just Me]

26. Too bad. It was one of the most revealing "King" shows I've seen,...

,...in quite some time.

EXCELLENT contrast between the "persecutors" and the forgiving/inclusive Christians!!!!

A very SOBERING show exposing the extremists,...in my opinion!!!!

[Wrinkle_In_Time]

48. Revealing? That would be a first for Larrikin Live...

... that formaldehyded-owl-in-suspenders is just awful. I haven't watched him in years. My gastro-intestinal tract can't take it.

If there was anything revealing from his show, then it was completely accidental. He doesn't do "revealing", only "obscuring". It's great that you were able to see through the softball crap, but I doubt that: a) it was intentional; b) his usual "sheep" audience will see it.

[Just Me]

49. Well, geez,...I don't hold him in the level of contempt you have for him.

It is too bad that you missed it.

For those Americans who watched it,...I believe the dichotomy will help to wake up those operating under a kind of spell.

[Wrinkle_In_Time]

54. "Well, geez,..."

Just Me said:

Well, geez,...I don't hold him in the level of contempt you have for him.

Ah well, I consider that to be a shame.

It is too bad that you missed it.

Nope, because I have never seen Larry King to be "revealing" (your words) and at this stage in his "career" I really don't expect him to grow a pair to reveal (as disturbing as that image is).

For those Americans who watched it,...I believe the dichotomy will help to wake up those operating under a kind of spell.

Why do you target your comment to Americans and passively exclude non-Americans? Are non-Americans not allowed to watch or comment on Larry King? We do get CNN in Canada, you know. Are non-Americans' opinions less important that yours... {oops, I guess in some circles that's true}.

[Darth_Kitten]

3. Saw them for about 10 seconds.....

how's it going? :scared:

[Stand and Fight]

6. Well, this is most interesting...

Talking about "God's plan" and that the tsunami was part of that -- part of his schedule. These people are absolutely whacked. LaHaye and the rest of the right-wing fundie nutjobs are just as bad as the Muslim fundies under Bin Ladin.

[Sparkly]

8. My husband JUST said almost the same thing

He just said they're the American version of the Taliban and the Ayatollah Khomeni.

[Stand and Fight]

10. Well, what's the old saying?

Great minds think alike... No, that doesn't fit... That means Bush and his robots are great minds, and that is definitely not the case.

[TrustingDog]

12. did they say 911 was part of 'god's plan'...

I haven't seen the show yet, but will later, they only repeat like 20 friggen times a day.

King is a Loser. The only time I see him in a good light is when he giggles like a schoolgirl when Bill Maher is on - otherwise, he's just Such a Useless thang.

[Al-CIAda]

19. No, 9-11 was PNAC's plan.

"did they say 911 was part of 'god's plan'..."

Not unless you count Bush as 'god'.

[Stand and Fight]

23. No, not directly...

But if they think the tsunami disaster was... then... Yeah, surely these nuts think that 9-11 was part of God's plan.

[Stand and Fight]

9. Oh God...

Just went from discussion of gays to discussion of AIDS -- apparently believes that these things are one and the same...

[Stand and Fight]

13. Right on Larry King!

"I'd rather have my children raised by two men than by two people hitting on each other, than people not paying taxes, than people committing crimes..."

The only foster parent who I think gave a damn about me was gay, and it is stupid to say that gays should not have the right to adopt. I know if my wife and I were to give up a child, we'd have no problem with giving that child to a gay or lesbian couple.

[graywarrior]

14. I work at a used bookstore in Florida where we get these

whackjob's books. The people that come in looking for their books are in a trance. It's a huge cult.

[Stand and Fight]

16. Not a surprise at all... n/t

[AlCzervik]

15. i saw him on 60 minutes awhile back-yuck.

[Stand and Fight]

17. They're talking about the Anti-Christ now...

Their cult leader, George W. Bush.

[Kahuna]

18. Oh, God no!

:puke:

[FreedomAngel82]

20. They are very frightening

I can't believe they have hijacked my religion. :\ For some reason I was watching a little bit of Scarborough's show last night and he was talking to that freakin Dobson guy about SpongeBob. He said he never said SpongeBob was gay but was complaining about the video because it teaches kids tolerance of LG community and he was upset that they're teaching that. I was pissed off. I guess he likes being a hyportical bigot instead.

[yardwork]

39. My husband saw that. He said what Dobson said was far worse

than calling Spongebob gay. He said it was sickening how Dobson hated the show for promoting tolerance.

It takes a lot to get Mr. Yardwork going. Dobson did.

[Sparkly]

21. I wish Larry would correct these people on facts

Tim LeHaye said he thought embryonic stem cell research kills "little lives." Larry said they're cells, and asked if he believed they would actually become lives. Tim said YES. (The alternative to using them is throwing them away!) Larry didn't correct him. :(

[kuozzman]

22. WTF? They were just talking about New World Order

Worldwide monetary system.
One world government.

Were they just saying that the bible predicts this or that they support it and theoretically, Bush contributing to it?

[Sparkly]

24. They said the Bible predicts it shortly before the rapture

and the world would be united and at peace under the leadership of the anti-Christ, which makes no sense to me. :shrug:

[Stand and Fight]

28. It makes sense.

The prophecy of John, the book of Revelations, says that the world will be lured into a false peace by an Anti-Christ who will seam good but will be anti-God, anti-good... etc...

[kuozzman]

31. So is that Bush, luring the world into a false peace, etc?

[Stand and Fight]

35. I don't think they believe the problem will come in our country.

I believe that they think it will come from Europe or the Middle East. They probably believe that Bush is a guiding force in "these times of tribulation."

[Sparkly]

33. I don't get it

If the anti-Christ unites the world in peace, and then Jesus comes back, what's the bad part? (I'm not being sarcastic -- I really don't get it.) Seems like a great excuse for them to oppose a peacemaker and rally behind a warmonger.

[Stand and Fight]

38. No, not in their minds.

From their point of view they feel that the Anti-Christ will fool everyone except for the righteous and the "Children of God." They feel that they will be able to tell the Anti-Christ for what he is when he arrives on the scene. The bad part is this -- the Anti-Christ unites the world in a FALSE sense of peace. For example, the prophecies say that the Anti-Christ will demand that those loyal to him have a mark placed upon them, and those that refuse will be unable to trade, to buy goods and services, or receive certain state benefits. Supposedly, this will be a test of the righteous and those who are following the path of the "great Satan." There shall be seven years of peace and then seven years of "trials and tribulations" accompanied by the usual Biblical plagues and famines. The Anti-Christ will seemingly be peace-loving and a uniter, but in reality he will be the total opposite of Christ -- hence, Anti-Christ.

I was raised in various Christian churches, and from what I know of the Bible and its prophecies, Bush fits the bill of an Anti-Christ. There is not only one Anti-Christ that is supposed to come forward though... Bush is deceptive and dangerous because he has managed to convince so many different people of so many contradicting things -- some think he is smart, courageous, and peace-loving; however, those are those that think he is the opposite of all of that. Personally, I don't buy the widely held notion that Bush is an idiot, and I strongly believe it is all an act so that people do "misunderestimate" him and thus they are disarmed and unable to really fight. So many people have jumped on that band wagon, but based on the reading I have done on him I believe it is an act and a damn fine one at that. It is my ardent belief that Bush is a very, very dangerous man. The Anti-Christ? I don't know, but he is definitely a supremely dangerous individual. He's got a ton of smoke-screens up around himself and a lot of people have fallen for them and fail to see through the haze of deceit.

[Sparkly]

44. Thanks for the explanation

Is it that the anti-Christ is supposed to unite the world in peace but has a more sinister plan up his sleeve, a plan prevented by the rapture?

I agree with you that Bush and his entire regime are extremely dangerous. I'm among those who believe he's truly stupid, though. I think he's the puppet and there is a whole cabal pulling his strings, writing his scripts, feeding him his lines, etc... And those are the people that are evil and brilliant, imo.

[earth mom]

55. * fits the bill for the anti-christ

but obviously these people don't think he is-they love him. :puke:
They are all so brainwashed it's beyond insane.

And while I think it's all a bunch of crapola, they do scare the hell out of me! :scared:

So here's my questions: Since they love * beyond measure...does anyone suppose that from their viewpoint when they refer to 7 years of peace, are they referring to Clinton as the anti christ? Are we now in the 7 years of trials and tribulations?

Is the fricken rapture near?! :scared:

[yardwork]

42. They get that from a VERY creative reading of Revelation

I read the Book of Revelation recently to see what all the fuss was about, and in my opinion whoever wrote it was probably goofed on skunkweed at the time. (Actually, apparently it was written in symbolic code to give hope to early Christians who were being persecuted. It's really a stretch to come up with what these wackos come up with.)

[Stand and Fight]

43. I can see your point...

However, I think you hit the nail on the head -- it was written in coded form to give early Christians hope...

[yardwork]

45. ...so we shouldn't be using it to predict the future, right?

I don't understand why some Christians obsess over Revelation and a few other books in the OT and NT, while ignoring most of the text of the New Testament.

I think a lot of Christians are puzzled about how their religion got highjacked by politicians.

[mordarlar]

58. Here is an online book offering a different view of Revelations...

http://www.ao.net/~fmoeller/revdir.htm

I do not agree with everything he says but it is an interesting read. It takes a historical approach. Meaning most of what is in Revelations is already passed. Most scholars through history used this method. It is only recently that the 7 yr tribulation theory came into play. The 7 yr method serves them better because they BELIEVE they will be gone before the suffering they predict starts.

[mordarlar]

57. There are several methods used to interpret Revelations...

There are those that think there will be seven years of hell on earth, after the believers have been raised into heaven.

There are those that believe EVERYTHING prophesied is past.

And then there is the historical method.

In the first one they believe the anti-christ will give the false impression of peace. Gain extreme control and then there will be CHAOS.

By the historical view all historical events post Christ have been enacted already leading us to today. The Bible prophesies in OT Daniel written pre-Christ tell of some things during Daniels lifetime and somethings that closely mirror Revelations.

I am of the belief that organized Christianity is what is commonly referred to as the anti-christ. It says in Rev. that the beast will look like Christ but speak like the Satan. They have been around since the beginning of time. Most of the "plagues" of the Bible can be explained pretty clearly by history. If this is accurate we would be in the last "bowl" Commonly seen to interpret A BIG BOMB. : /

[Stand and Fight]

27. They were saying the bible predicts this...

I think they were alluding to the Euro... The question was prompted by a woman calling from Port, Washington, asking if they believed that the Anti-Christ would rise.

[graywarrior]

25. Start banging some 2 by 4's together and get rid of these people

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[Sparkly]

30. I feel like I need a Valium to steady myself after watching that!!

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[Just Me]

40. Why? The "radical" two were obvious "radicals".

I am really glad they were exposed.

Whereas, the other two evangelicals were far more moderate and inclusive and "secular".

I thought it an excellent show for Americans to see in order to distinguish being the "radicals" and the "moderates". There are way so few Americans who fall into the radical shit (not even 5% of our population). I hope you know that.

[Sparkly]

47. Even 5% scares me

If 5% of the population are aligned with Beverly and Tim LeHaye, it's scary to me. I worry about this kind of thinking seeping into public consciousness, and the main reason it scares me is that it can't be dealt with through reason. The LeHayes simply cite the Bible as the source of their beliefs, their interpretation is right period, it's black and white and nothing else, and nobody can convince them otherwise. And these are people who want their beliefs imposed through government. All of that, to me, is very frightening.

[Just Me]

50. Aw. I'm far more scared that Rummy can't account for $2.3 TRILLION,...

,...than I am of these people whose influence will feign like some teenage fashion thingy of the month.

:hug: Just remember that most of these radicals are WAITING for the rapture and aiming to prevent it (which is quite weird considering,...well, their whole mindset). I think it's sad that they have decided for themselves that the END is imminent and they feel compelled to hurry up and prove themselves worthy of a place in heaven. :cry:

[Sparkly]

51. I'm worried about them wanting to hasten the rapture!

I hope you're right that they're a passing fashion of some sort. Don't they have a pretty big following, though, or not? I know they sell a lot of books. :shrug:

I have no problem with them wanting to be worthy of a place in heaven, I'm just scared of what they think is worthy, I guess!

[Erika]

52. Larry King Was Good tonight

The one woman caller asked why the government should be involved in the control of a woman's body and stated they should not try to legislate morality. Mrs. Lehayne response was simple minded beyond belief. She stated that she could not understand why women would want to kill little babies. She said women could have control of their own body BEFORE they got pregnant.

Mrs. Lehayne and her group, Concerned Women of America, are dangerous to the freedoms of American women.She would love a theocratic right wing Christian government.

Franklin Graham is the one who laughed when he was asked if democrats can be good Christians. His father, Billy Graham, is a self-proclaimed Democrat.

[Sgent]

59. Larry King

Also did a great program on Christmas day (or Eve) with a Catholic, a fundy, an Episcopel (sp?), a Rabbi, and an Iman -- no this is not a joke.

I'm not sure if he did this because he thought it was a good theme, informative, or good ratings.

[cynatnite]

60. I hate remembering

I was raised in this shit. I'm glad the deprogramming took.

I read four of the books they did and they were okay for an interesting fictional read. That's how I took it, but it got boring and I quit.

The thing is, they do really believe it and so does my mother, grandmother and probably half the relatives. It's not a surprise the Christian right is so strong. This kind of stuff is their backbone. They do emails praying for shrub, go to churck, pat each other on the back, pray for each other and the whole nine yards. To me, it's a damn cult.

These are hard nuts to crack.